BLOODHOUND1970
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The Vortex VX9 9.09 has been released and is on Garrett's website. I have not installed or tested it yet but hope to do so tomorrow.
Vortex 9.09
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Hmm.
Any read on that there update Bloodhound?
Any read on that there update Bloodhound?
Loaded 9.09 and repeated the same tests using a nail, axe head, dime, quarter and nickel. Worked fine and tones were clear and distinct on all targets that were six inches apart and 1/2 inch from coil. Did not look at VDI just yet but so far so good.
StanTheManStan
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Update went fine. There was a related single frequency issue which was also fixed.
Out of curiosity, I looked at the files. There were a lot of QT… files. So, I’m assuming it uses Linux.
Out of curiosity, I looked at the files. There were a lot of QT… files. So, I’m assuming it uses Linux.
BLOODHOUND1970
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yes sir, it is better BUT It now will not sound off on a coin if swept over a can or decent sized iron before the coin. No more locked ID's, it makes no sound or ID on the coin at all. It will get the coin on a return sweep back over it though. I don't think you would hit the coin on the 2nd sweep back unless you were going methodically slow. There is still work to be done to get it right. PS. Nearly new Vortex VX9 for sale, only used on one short hunt and for testing. Box, charging/data cable, and paperwork are included.
Hmm.
That doesn’t sound good….
Interesting as I tested specifically for that and it did fine. Will try it again tomorrow. Maybe something to do with settings.
So with an axe head and coin sweeping across the coil it will not pick up the coin until the return sweep. To be fair, so does my Apex, T2 and F75.
NorthwestrnWIMD
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Same results here. I posted a video on YouTube showing that the vortex works better on small objects. When a large target is swung over the coins disappear. Keep in mind I am not professional videographer
CountyWorker
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The last test with the jar lid and quarter is ugly.
Helluva video MDNW Wisconsin.
So I won’t be buying that thing. This I am sure of.
So I won’t be buying that thing. This I am sure of.
NorthwestrnWIMD
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Thanks TNSHARPSHOOTER!
StanTheManStan
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Not so sure I can agree with the conclusions. Particularly the lid and nickel. I could hear that nickel plain as day. When you have a big metal object near a coin, the signal is going to be mixed. Different detectors, and different settings and heights on the same detector, will handle it differently.
NorthwestrnWIMD
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Well that's your opinion and you are welcome to it. The thing is that can could have been 2 feet away and same thing
Coin-Saver
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I dunno, the vortex seems to be making a good case for dowsing rods. 
Garrett posted a new video today (5/12) regarding 9.09 and 5(or 7).02 version updates. They suggest that the referenced updates address the issue referenced in the NWIMD video, but the swinging technique shown in Garrett's video is not the issue some (if not all) Vortex users are having. Hovering over each target and wiggling the coil over each target is not the issue.
After updating, the Vortex is a maybe "little" better, but like NWIMD has shown in his video, if one swings over the large item first (i.e., smashed can, large iron, etc.), and in the same sweep over the coin, the detector completely misses the smaller coin unless one swings very slow. This happens even with a spacing of 16" or more. Trying the test with an Apex, a quarter and a smashed soft drink can, the Apex hits the coin in swinging both directions the majority of the time. The Vortex never hits it both directions.
Conversely, if the test is performed using a Deus II-9" coil it hits every time, almost as fast as you can comfortably swing the detector. My 20+ year old Fisher 1236-X2 9" coil hits it both directions even with a moderate swing speed.
That is what needs to be corrected on the Vortex.
After updating, the Vortex is a maybe "little" better, but like NWIMD has shown in his video, if one swings over the large item first (i.e., smashed can, large iron, etc.), and in the same sweep over the coin, the detector completely misses the smaller coin unless one swings very slow. This happens even with a spacing of 16" or more. Trying the test with an Apex, a quarter and a smashed soft drink can, the Apex hits the coin in swinging both directions the majority of the time. The Vortex never hits it both directions.
Conversely, if the test is performed using a Deus II-9" coil it hits every time, almost as fast as you can comfortably swing the detector. My 20+ year old Fisher 1236-X2 9" coil hits it both directions even with a moderate swing speed.
That is what needs to be corrected on the Vortex.
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I respectfully disagree with the conclusions drawn from the member video. In the first place, I could hear it hitting the coin in some of the tests, especially the lid and the nickel.
The Manticore will do the same thing in some situations, as stated in the manual. You can have endless variations, but at some point, and height above the situation, the signal becomes mixed on all detectors.
“Manticore: Overlapping or Adjacent Targets: Targets that are adjacent or overlapping can influence one‑another, resulting in misidentification. A common effect is that a weaker target will be 'dragged' closer to the stronger target, causing a different Target ID than if the targets were detected individually. Targets of a similar type and signal strength can move towards each‑other, 'meeting halfway' Conversely, if one target is very dominant, then the weaker target may not be detected at all.”
If you want to hit coins next to large metal objects, you have to be lucky or be prepared to do some test. Different speeds, angles and heights.
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