Church of the Compadre...

[qarl]

So what's the general consensus on the optimal coil size for coin/ring hunting on a Compadre?

I looks like currently 5.75 and 8 are available with Kellyco.

Has one proven to be more sensitive or deeper than the other?

Thanks,

Q

 

[DIGGER27]

So what's the general consensus on the optimal coil size for coin/ring hunting on a Compadre?

I looks like currently 5.75 and 8 are available with Kellyco.

Has one proven to be more sensitive or deeper than the other?

Thanks,

Q

If your sites are usually full of trash get the smaller coil.
Basketball and volleyball courts, picnic areas and around picnic pavilions...sites like that...or in iron infested sites.
The larger coil is very good in heavy trash but the small coil is a hair better and easier to use.

For open areas with less trash the 8" coil will cover ground a bit more efficiently an get a bit deeper than the small coil...not sure how much deeper but in good soil maybe an inch or two at least...could be more in the right conditions.
The small coil should still get to about the 6" depth level and that is usually the limit of where I find 95% of my good targets anyway and that is where my 7" coil seems to get to and I am fine with that.

Both seem hyper sensitive to jewelry and coins, not sure there is much of a difference there.


Referring to sensitivity...
Here are two vids I did when I used a borrowed 8 incher.
This was stock out of the factory without the sense turned up internally, I was inside the house with the usual EMI and even though I turned off my WiFi I was living in an apartment complex with 5 neighbors who did have their WiFi still turned on.
Plus I should have lowered that coil because after I did this I realized most of these targets were swung over the scanning edge of the coil and not in the center which would have gotten me a little more depth and even more solid tones.
Live and learn.
These were tested with the knob set to all metal, my most common setting I hunt in.
Check out the end of the silver and gold one to see what happens if you turn up the disc too high and exactly why I rarely do.

I was very impressed on how this thing did under these conditions and I am positive out in the real world I would have gotten even better results in good soil.
Turn up the sense internally even better still.

Silver and gold





Other stuff

 

[qarl]

If your sites are usually full of trash get the smaller coil.
Basketball and volleyball courts, picnic areas and around picnic pavilions...sites like that...or in iron infested sites.
The larger coil is very good in heavy trash but the small coil is a hair better and easier to use.

For open areas with less trash the 8" coil will cover ground a bit more efficiently an get a bit deeper than the small coil...not sure how much deeper but in good soil maybe an inch or two at least...could be more in the right conditions.
The small coil should still get to about the 6" depth level and that is usually the limit of where I find 95% of my good targets anyway and that is where my 7" coil seems to get to and I am fine with that.

Both seem hyper sensitive to jewelry and coins, not sure there is much of a difference there.


Referring to sensitivity...
Here are two vids I did when I used a borrowed 8 incher.
This was stock out of the factory without the sense turned up internally, I was inside the house with the usual EMI and even though I turned off my WiFi I was living in an apartment complex with 5 neighbors who did have their WiFi still turned on.
Plus I should have lowered that coil because after I did this I realized most of these targets were swung over the scanning edge of the coil and not in the center which would have gotten me a little more depth and even more solid tones.
Live and learn.
These were tested with the knob set to all metal, my most common setting I hunt in.
Check out the end of the silver and gold one to see what happens if you turn up the disc too high and exactly why I rarely do.

I was very impressed on how this thing did under these conditions and I am positive out in the real world I would have gotten even better results in good soil.
Turn up the sense internally even better still.

Silver and gold





Other stuff

Thank you so much. This is what I figure. We have a site where an old hotel was taken down in the 1920s. Lots of iron there.. but some relics and old coins of appeared. I think the 5.75 will be great with the brush and iron.

Much appreciated.

Q

 

[GroundSweeper]

Wish I had the smaller coil for tot lots but I like the 8" for everything else, granted I'm not relic hunting with it, it does like big rusted iron, and gold and silver!

 

[DIGGER27]

Wish I had the smaller coil for tot lots but I like the 8" for everything else, granted I'm not relic hunting with it, it does like big rusted iron, and gold and silver!

The 8" coil will be just as good for tot lots as any other model.

I have used both smaller coil in many tot lots and tested the 8" coil model near big iron.
There is absolutely no difference between any Compadres regarding this little target finding near big metal superpower.
They all double beep just as easily as any other, (triple beep on shallow targets even if they are leaning on a big pole), if you get the swing speed right.
They are all exactly the same when called on to do this task.
The 8" coil will probably be the deepest so there is that, also.

 

[GroundSweeper]

The 8" coil will be just as good for tot lots as any other model.

I have used both smaller coil in many tot lots and tested the 8" coil model near big iron.
There is absolutely no difference between any Compadres regarding this little target finding near big metal superpower.
They all double beep just as easily as any other, (triple beep on shallow targets even if they are leaning on a big pole), if you get the swing speed right.
They are all exactly the same when called on to do this task.
The 8" coil will probably be the deepest so there is that, also.

Thanks Digger, good to know! I have watched your video on double beeping and have practiced that as well, good to know the 8" isn't a handicap.

 

[qarl]

Heckuva way to break in the Compadre. The Facebook Detectorist Group NewAgeGoonies hid a small treasure chest in a local County Park called Moss Park. They posted some clues and a video and I went out looking for it today. Found a buried treasure chest!

Once I found the general area I began to search. I found an old rusty nail at first. Then I picked up a few pings on wide open, and discriminated the iron off and it continued to ping back multiples through the discrimination band...

The "treasure chest" contained 2 wheaties, an Indian, a barber dime, a mercury dime, and a Buff. Plus some new Minelab gloves, a Minelab phone holder and some miscellaneous booty.

Not a bad way to break her in!

I added bluetooth wireless and an earbud to cut down on the annoying speaker!

 

[DIGGER27]

Way cool!
A treasure chest with real treasure.

 

[NCtoad]

Brothers and sisters of the church, please welcome me as I will soon be the owner of an 8" model compadre. I recently bought my 7 year old daughter a 5.75" model and I have to say I couldn't resist once I tried hers out. Mine should be here next week

 

[NCtoad]

Thanks Digger, good to know! I have watched your video on double beeping and have practiced that as well, good to know the 8" isn't a handicap.

Can someone post a link to this video? Thanks in advance.

 

[DIGGER27]

Brothers and sisters of the church, please welcome me as I will soon be the owner of an 8" model compadre. I recently bought my 7 year old daughter a 5.75" model and I have to say I couldn't resist once I tried hers out. Mine should be here next week

Fishers AND Tesoros together?
Where could you have gotten a wild idea like that?

I have learned this one pretty good, always have a blast using it and usually find stuff, anyway.

You can do it the way the "manual" says and thumb the disc up to the fade out point to figure out targets, or you can set it at one place and dig everything that beeps above it if you choose.
Neither one appeals to me, I never set it at one place except in rare cases of extreme cherry picking for high tone targets and that thumb up to the fade out point I haven't done in years.
I prefer the thumb past and back down method only as do many others.
In the years I have used mine, plus I am at least the third owner of this thing, that knob must have traveled many miles up and back and it is still as solid, precise and perfectly calibrated as the day it was born.
That is Tesoro quality in a nutshell.

Besides all the Fisher stuff and this thread about the Compadre I have written a bit more about the GREAT Compadre in the past.

Peruse, absorb, then hit the ground running when you get it and as they said in the old days, "Swing baby swing!

I started a little log when I got mine, I put away my Vaq and F2 for awhile and just used this thing to learn it and dug a ton of everything including trash.
Some good tips in here including some from other very skilled owners like slingshot.
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=84048


Someone asked about where gold comes in on this thing so here are some examples...
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=106480

One of my first hunts in with this thing where my jaw really dropped and rarely came back up after that.
In a site I had hunted many times with my F2 and my Vaq and learned so much this private laboratory still had more to teach me about exactly how good this thing is on everything but especially silver and gold jewelry...
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=86773


Why I hunt with the disc down low and thumb up to figure out every signal...
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=98640

On a hunt on a cold day I was hunting a new park for me with a basketball court, a small tot lot and a picnic pavilion.
I dug tons of trash around the basketball court, something I always do because of the high probability of jewelry but also because of the masking problems you can encounter.
Right next to the pavilion, an area with a lot of sta-tabs, pop tops, small bits of can slaw and foil I was tired by this time so I reverted to my avoid jumpy noisy signal method and just dug the signals that came in solid as I dialed back down and found a small gold ring.
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=132026

Here is a blurry vid taken with my phone after I found it.
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=_KUzKZ9pOic



We talk about the really sharp discrimination abilities and the extreme sensitivity that this one has.
How sensitive is it...this much....
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=201661


I tried an 8" model for a couple of weeks, impressions here...
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=153122

Tesoros and trash, here is that thumb up and then back down method I use exclusively on every signal in this one also...
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=149441

Despite the ability to find the tiniest items possible and the fact that it can sniff out chains like it is a religion with this thing the best superpower all coil models seem to process is the ability to find targets near, next to or even leaning on big metal and this one is no different.
Listen for the double beep, triple beep on shallow targets and nothing can hide from you in tot lots, next to fence posts or bench legs.
This is a skill easy to learn and will pay back in dividends forever once you do.
Video on this at the bottom of this thread...

http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=201458


I can say enjoy swinging and learning this thing but as the rest of us that own one already know you really have no choice in the matter...fun and joy are main features of this one.

 

[NCtoad]

Yeah, I'd say you've had a little influence on my detector choices
Thanks for all the links! I just bookmarked this post and begin some interesting reading asap

Fishers AND Tesoros together?
Where could you have gotten a wild idea like that?

I have learned this one pretty good, always have a blast using it and usually find stuff, anyway.

You can do it the way the "manual" says and thumb the disc up to the fade out point to figure out targets, or you can set it at one place and dig everything that beeps above it if you choose.
Neither one appeals to me, I never set it at one place except in rare cases of extreme cherry picking for high tone targets and that thumb up to the fade out point I haven't done in years.
I prefer the thumb past and back down method only as do many others.
In the years I have used mine, plus I am at least the third owner of this thing, that knob must have traveled many miles up and back and it is still as solid, precise and perfectly calibrated as the day it was born.
That is Tesoro quality in a nutshell.

Besides all the Fisher stuff and this thread about the Compadre I have written a bit more about the GREAT Compadre in the past.

Peruse, absorb, then hit the ground running when you get it and as they said in the old days, "Swing baby swing!

I started a little log when I got mine, I put away my Vaq and F2 for awhile and just used this thing to learn it and dug a ton of everything including trash.
Some good tips in here including some from other very skilled owners like slingshot.
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=84048


Someone asked about where gold comes in on this thing so here are some examples...
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=106480

One of my first hunts in with this thing where my jaw really dropped and rarely came back up after that.
In a site I had hunted many times with my F2 and my Vaq and learned so much this private laboratory still had more to teach me about exactly how good this thing is on everything but especially silver and gold jewelry...
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=86773


Why I hunt with the disc down low and thumb up to figure out every signal...
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=98640

I tried an 8" model for a couple of weeks, impressions here...
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=153122

Tesoros and trash, here is that thumb up and then back down method I use exclusively on every signal...
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=149441

Despite the ability to find the tiniest items possible and the fact that it can sniff out chains like it is a religion with this thing the best superpower all coil models seem to process is the ability to find targets near, next to or even leaning on big metal and this one is no different.
Listen for the double beep, triple beep on shallow targets and nothing can hide from you in tot lots, next to fence posts or bench legs.
This is a skill easy to learn and will pay back in dividends forever once you do.
Video on this at the bottom of this thread...

http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=201458


I can say enjoy swinging and learning this thing but as the rest of us that own one already know you really have no choice in the matter...fun and joy are main features of this one.

 

[dirtykneese]

Hi Digger.
You could make a few bucks.. Make this thread about The Church of the Compadre a book. I bet you could sell a bunch of them. This could be part ONE. In a few years you just make part two. You could do the same with the Fisher you worked with.. Just a goofe thought... KEN

 

[DIGGER27]

Hi Digger.
You could make a few bucks.. Make this thread about The Church of the Compadre a book. I bet you could sell a bunch of them. This could be part ONE. In a few years you just make part two. You could do the same with the Fisher you worked with.. Just a goofe thought... KEN

Ha!
Not sure if Tesoro knows me but I believe I have probably sold a couple of Compadre's just off of what people have told me and by the amount of views of this one thread.

This one is up to 832 Replies and 121,532 Views.


Bart once mentioned he knows for sure Fisher knows who I am and a lot has to do with this huge thread...

F2...final impressions below....
1,37 Replies...209,350 Views.

I know more than a couple of F2's were purchased because of that one for sure.

Nobody has ever offered me anything for all this, not a hat, a calendar...nothing, but that's ok, I don't post all of these things because I am looking for payment but because I truly love hunting with these things, I am able to pass that love on in a small way and now I can do it with the F70 too.
If the joy I have using them transfers over to any hunter, just 1 or 1001, and any insights I can share helps them enjoy this hobby as much as I do and enables anyone find that next great thing a little faster or easier that is plenty enough for me.
Plus, I have been on the receiving end of some great gifts and surprises from a couple of crazy generously insane members here so Karma is real as far as I am concerned.

I have learned plenty from others and others have learned from me...paying it forward in this hobby is a real thing for so many and one of the best things about hanging out on these forums.

 

[dirtykneese]

Yes Digger,, I think that you have helped sell many compadres. I still have my first one i bought back when they first came out. After a few years using it and seeing what it can do, I bought a second one just incase my first one died. Well, That old , beat up thing runs just like a new one. I have in the past sent both of them in to have Rusty go through them and tune them up. Them little monsters just dont stop working. So, yes, this story you started has helped sell more Tesoros.. Thanks for what you have done. When the new people that read your story and got them one of these, will always think of " DIGGER 27 "

KEN

 

[DIGGER27]

Yes Digger,, I think that you have helped sell many compadres. I still have my first one i bought back when they first came out. After a few years using it and seeing what it can do, I bought a second one just incase my first one died. Well, That old , beat up thing runs just like a new one. I have in the past sent both of them in to have Rusty go through them and tune them up. Them little monsters just dont stop working. So, yes, this story you started has helped sell more Tesoros.. Thanks for what you have done. When the new people that read your story and got them one of these, will always think of " DIGGER 27 "

KEN

The funny thing is my is post #1 in this thread was written a little while after I got mine and later at night when I was bored and had nothing better to do.
It was a joke, but it took off and turned into this huge, funny, entertaining thing and was the beginning of an awesome movement...The Church of the Compadre.
When I see mentions in posts referring to joining the church, and this is on many different forums and is still going on, it just makes me smile.
I love reading he first few pages and watch the evolution of Bonesquat go from making fun of this thing and then breaking down and buying one...plus all the others that that were proud to come on board and seem to get the same joy we all do using this one.

One of the simplest tool you can possibly use in this hobby, no screen, one control, one tone...the fact that it can elicit such love, reverence and emotion and give us so much joy is an aberration in this hobby, an anomaly and I am sure Tesoro never planned on any of it.

So many different ways to enjoy this hobby, so many different tools from extreme high tech and complicated to simple to do it with.
I am just glad the Compadre is one of them.

 

[sllingshot47]

Still wish they had a yellow Compadre!

 

[dirtykneese]

Still wish they had a yellow Compadre!

Keep it up and you will be moved to the back of the church... KEN

 

[sllingshot47]

Keep it up and you will be moved to the back of the church... KEN

It may get worse.I'm considering opening up my Compadre , adding a tab check switch like I had on my Silver umax. I hate thumbing. Prayers appreciated.

 

[ToddB64]

Just Finished Reading All 84 Pages of This COTC Thread !

Hi All !

After several evenings of reading I finally reached the 84th page of this Church of the Compadre thread, including reading all the pages of embedded links.

My purpose was to print copies of any posts containing helpful tips and information to improve my skill with the Compadre and will continue to do this as time goes on.

I want to especially thank Digger27 and also all other contributors of helpful information to this thread.

Digger27's special post acknowledging David C. Brown (aka Tabdog) and including embedded links to some of his best posts was also appreciated by myself and I'm sure many others.

As many of you probably know, David was suffering from Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA), a bacterium responsible for several difficult-to-treat infections in humans.

I don't know when he first contracted MRSA, but he did a post on Treasure Quest Metal Detecting Forum on 07-01-2010, 12:13 AM, Titled:"Trouble in 2010 But Counting my Blessings", reporting on his condition. If anyone wants to read, I just logged-in on that website and by using their Search tool was successful in pulling up his post. I haven't had any contact with him over the past six years, so not sure if he has survived his illness. If anyone knows, please advise.

Sorry to end this on a sad note; initially, it wasn't my intention. I'm praying the "Tab" is well by now and back to swinging his Compadre's in the Tot-Lots !

HH
ToddB64