Church of the Compadre...

I gotta say, you guys seriously have me wanting a compadre. I'm just not a huge fan of cults though. May get one for my son and just pretend to borrow it once in a while... :laughing:, but I'm not joking.

Not a cult...a religion.
Anything you find with a Compadre is tax free and does not have to be declared as income.
Nobody I know ever did that, anyway. :shifty::whistle:


Seriously, the little C can do some remarkable things as evidenced by the many pics of treasure that you can see in this thread plus that simplicity of use is way fun in its own special way.
Reading posts from brand new users that discover this the first time out is fun...those that never try will never know.
The real joy is when you really start to understand it and come to know at least a little of its language...even more as you get more fluent.
It still seems baffling to Tesoro owners that so many out there still consider these type of analog units just simple beep and dig machines...they have no clue that the one single tone can convey way more information than just a simple beep.

There are many comments in many heated threads on many forums of people lamenting about Tesoro and the way they do things and how pitiful they are because they have yet to come out with "modern" tools that are more in line with the whiz-bang fully loaded 21st century tools available nowadays.
They have sold their type of detectors for decades and are good at what they do, many of us have used them and see nothing wrong with their list of of current models and features and seem to find more than our share of treasure with them and many of us use both kinds...like me.
Sometimes it really is true...if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I am sure driving a modern 21st century Dodge Charger is fun and a great pleasure but I used to own and drive a prehistoric 1970 Charger and all its limitations compared to its modern cousin...I have never drove a car before or since that I can remember that gave me more lifetime memories and joy.

I have said for years learning to hunt with sound only is a skill everyone should try to master and can be a huge asset to anyone and everyone...even those that prefer using digital units with screens.
Detectors with screens also have that audio component after all.
Using my Tesoros has made me a better and more skilled hunter using my other detectors, I really believe that...and switching between the two types has always given me great joy, still does and always will as long as I can pick up a detector and go hunting.
 
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Yeah, there's something to learning how to do things the "old school" way. It helps you appreciate the newer technology and does make you a better master within that trade. For $160 if it does 1/4th of what users claim, it's worth a shot. You guys haven't steered me wrong yet. Lifetime warranty so kid can beat the hell out of it, and daddy can get some enjoyment for years to come. I like changing things up anyways, to keep the hobby interesting, so why not...I'm in!
Let me look around and see what I can find...

Do you recommend just the standard Compadre, or would you advise a different model?
 
I shoot a recurve bow, instinctive, going on 50yrs......I bet I'd take to a Compadre just fine...its fast and light and deadly at close quarters like a recurve...so yeah...something like that is a helluva weapon...
Mud
 
Yeah, there's something to learning how to do things the "old school" way. It helps you appreciate the newer technology and does make you a better master within that trade. For $160 if it does 1/4th of what users claim, it's worth a shot. You guys haven't steered me wrong yet. Lifetime warranty so kid can beat the hell out of it, and daddy can get some enjoyment for years to come. I like changing things up anyways, to keep the hobby interesting, so why not...I'm in!
Let me look around and see what I can find...

Do you recommend just the standard Compadre, or would you advise a different model?

They all work more than well and similar in most circumstances.
My older version 7" coil model is my baby, after spending hundreds of hours with it I would choose that one over any others because I just know it well.
It has been said that some of the earliest models, the ones made shortly after they evolved from the Amiga series might just be the hottest and sparkiest of the bunch but they are all so close that unless you spend a lot of time with all of them it will be hard to tell a difference.

My unit seems to work remarkably well in clean sites, iron infested sites, mineralized soil and in heavy trash filled sites I have never used the small coil model but I find it hard to believe that one would be any better at target separation than what I experience.
It seems to me my 7" coil does not pick up targets right at the edge of the coil...it is like the wires in that coil are situated about 3/4's of an inch in from the edges so if that is true when they switched to that 5.75" smaller coil there wasn't much of a change at all except that Tesoro was able to save a few bucks by using a little less material in the coil manufacturing process.

I tried an 8" coil model for a few weeks and it was just as much fun, just as productive as mine but there were a couple of differences.
That one was slightly deeper, I could get to the 6-7" depth area with mine easily but the 8" coil might beat that by an inch or two.
Hunting in heavy trash that larger coil did not seem to be at any disadvantage at all, while adding that extra dimension of a little more depth.

The one thing I was not thrilled about was the 8" coil seemed to be slightly different in its discrimination abilities which I assume is an effect of using that donut coil.
Not a deal breaker at all, unless you had hundreds of hours using mine and then switched over you might not even be able to tell a difference if there even is one and it is not in my head.
On zincolns I came across on mine the way they behave as they disc out, or come in in my case as I thumb down, I feel the disc is Hattori Hanzo sword sharp, they act in a uniform matter and the same on all that are in good shape and not eaten up and disc out at that 3:00 area 99.9% of the time.
This is my calibration point, zincolns and not nickels because there are so many more of them out there and nickels are just naturally weird in their behavior IMO.
On the donut coil these same type of targets were still sharp but just a hair more sloppy, some came in slightly above and below that dead on 3:00 area I got used to on mine.
Again, not a huge deal and on the bigger coil the tones and behavior is so close to mine on all other targets I came across and dug it is not worth worrying about at all.
I am just a creature of habit and got used to a certain way of experiencing things after acquiring, examining and digging thousands of similar targets.

The good thing is the best and most important superpower is inherent in every one of them no matter what coil model.
They all will double or triple beep on any and all targets that are near to or even leaning on big iron like tot lot equipment, fence poles or bench legs.
There is absolutely no difference between the two models I tried this on in the slightest.
There is no other detector or coil combination or settings I have ever used that even came close to the effortless way this one can find targets in this situation...and I have tried many.
This ability above all is to me the prime reason everyone should have a Compadre in their arsenal in addition to all the others.

If you hunt mostly wide open areas and want to cover the most ground efficiently the bigger coil makes more sense.
If you live in a state with good soil and tend to have older and a bit deeper targets the big coil I have read has gotten down to the 8" area and sometimes even a bit deeper.
For hunting in predominantly iron or trash infested sites the small coil will be the most logical choice.
For 50-50 hunting in both types will work fine but using small coils trying to cover larger areas might tend to be a bit frustrating for some although I use sniper coils a lot and it never bothers me because I just got used to it.

That is why I love my 7" model...it seems to be the best of all worlds.
Fantastic as a sniper and in my head very comfortable using it to cover larger more wide open areas also.

There is no wrong model, really, most enjoy all different configurations no matter which ones they use.
 
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I appreciate that Digger and sounds exactly what I'm looking for. I need something that can get within about 2 inches of playground poles and not set off, while being able to see straight line down a few inches. My AT Pro has been driving me nuts getting close to any equipment. It's a great detector for wide open areas, but very finicky once closing in on any metal equipment even from about 1 1/2 ft away with sensitivity down. I was telling Mud yesterday, I think it's about to become my dedicated water detector for that very reason. My BH Plat performed better within about 7-8 inches of equipment poles, and area very close to those poles is prime real estate for us totters! Something about those poles just attracts the coinage and other goods!

Thinking something like the 5-7 inch coil range, easy for my son to handle too and doesn't need to reach too deep from him to retrieve targets easy. I like the 3 beep on surface drops, and discrim just below penny sounds great for him to not mess with sharp can slaw. I'm sold and appreciate your help tremendously! Now just to find one fitted to those needs and we'll be set! Thank you, sir!
 
I appreciate that Digger and sounds exactly what I'm looking for. I need something that can get within about 2 inches of playground poles and not set off, while being able to see straight line down a few inches. My AT Pro has been driving me nuts getting close to any equipment. It's a great detector for wide open areas, but very finicky once closing in on any metal equipment even from about 1 1/2 ft away with sensitivity down. I was telling Mud yesterday, I think it's about to become my dedicated water detector for that very reason. My BH Plat performed better within about 7-8 inches of equipment poles, and area very close to those poles is prime real estate for us totters! Something about those poles just attracts the coinage and other goods!

Thinking something like the 5-7 inch coil range, easy for my son to handle too and doesn't need to reach too deep from him to retrieve targets easy. I like the 3 beep on surface drops, and discrim just below penny sounds great for him to not mess with sharp can slaw. I'm sold and appreciate your help tremendously! Now just to find one fitted to those needs and we'll be set! Thank you, sir!


In Kansas most of the tot lots were cleaned out....so totally clean it was scary.
In every one I found tons of coins and other targets within 2-3" of all the equipment...all of them...whoever was draining these things could definitely not get as near to these things as I could with my Compadre.
At one I got a signal and recovered a Loonie that I swear was 4" deep and literally touching a large iron pole.

At another I swung my coil under a metal step that was part of a large piece of equipment and was only about 3-4" above the chips.
Dead center under the middle of that step I got that same double beep and recovered a coin.
That one shocked me because I didn't know or even suspect that the Compadre could do this.
Now I do.

If you find just one piece of quality jewelry near big metal your tool is paid for instantly but over time the amount of clad you can find that most others never suspected were there will do that for you too.
 
In Kansas most of the tot lots were cleaned out....so totally clean it was scary.
In every one I found tons of coins and other targets within 2-3" of all the equipment...all of them...whoever was draining these things could definitely not get as near to these things as I could with my Compadre.
At one I got a signal and recovered a Loonie that I swear was 4" deep and literally touching a large iron pole.

At another I swung my coil under a metal step that was part of a large piece of equipment and was only about 3-4" above the chips.
Dead center under the middle of that step I got that same double beep and recovered a coin.
That one shocked me because I didn't know or even suspect that the Compadre could do this.
Now I do.

If you find just one piece of quality jewelry near big metal your tool is paid for instantly but over time the amount of clad you can find that most others never suspected were there will do that for you too.

The 17g class ring I found about a month ago, was about 6 inches away from a pole, 3 inches deep, and the ATP was severely overloading and I almost just skipped it because I thought it was signaling from the pole. I swept near the pole from a few other sides and while I was getting heavy interference, it wasn't quite as bad as where the ring was. Shoveled some wood chips aside and, BAM, that honker was right there. Had I gone with instincts, I would have completely ignored it! Same thing 2 days ago with the small gold ring, under a seat type plastic perch for sitting about 2 ft long with poles holding on both sides. Sweeping just under as close as I could and hearing the feedback building on the AT from those poles, it targeted that ring with complete odd signals bouncing off from everything. I knew something was there shallow, just wasn't sure what or if it worth it. Took a chance, shoved some chips aside and it was laying there. Had to be a teacher that was sitting there during recess or something. So there are great things close to those poles, just need something to get close and underneath to grab the goods.
 
The Compadre would be a whole different experience.
On both of these there would have been no question, once you get the hang of the swing speed needed to generate that double beep these would have been definite dug me for sure signals.
When this happens on targets 2" away from big metal you are impressed...when the same things happen on targets closer or even touching metal your jaw will drop.
We talk about this ability and many don't believe it until they see it with their own eyes but it is real.
 
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The Compadre would be a whole different experience.
On both of these there would have been no question, once you get the hang of the swing speed needed to generate that double beep these would have been definite dug me for sure signals.
When this happens on targets 2" away from big metal you are impressed...when the same things happen on targets closer or even touching metal your jaw will drop.
We talk about this ability but many don't believe it until the see it with their own eyes but it is real.

Thanks again for all your help, one of the serious voices on here that are intent on giving truth and helping others. Forever thankful, Digger! Appreciate it!
 
Got my Compadre tonight. But there was no warranty card in the box. I asked the dealer and he said:

Items with lifetime warranties don't need to be registered what would you be telling them? they don't care who bought it doesn't that make sense?

I know that's not true right?? I have an email in to Tesoro, hopefully they can direct me as to what to do.
 
Got my Compadre tonight. But there was no warranty card in the box. I asked the dealer and he said:

Items with lifetime warranties don't need to be registered what would you be telling them? they don't care who bought it doesn't that make sense?

I know that's not true right?? I have an email in to Tesoro, hopefully they can direct me as to what to do.

I bet as long as you have the detector and send it in for any needed repairs, they'll honor it. With a lifetime warranty, there's no need to know when the detector was bought, it gets fixed anyways. As long as you didn't try to go swimming with it or whatever.

Your reciept of purchase, email, whatever has the date on it.
 
Tesoro only provides warranty service to the original owner. How would they know your the original owner if you did not register the warranty. If your not the original owner its $50 to look at it.

It specifically states in the instructions that the warranty card needs to be filled out and sent in within 10 days from date of purchase.
 
Tesoro only provides warranty service to the original owner. How would they know your the original owner if you did not register the warranty. If your not the original owner its $50 to look at it.

It specifically states in the instructions that the warranty card needs to be filled out and sent in within 10 days from date of purchase.

Oh, yeah...I bet they email you back. Might have you fax in a copy of your reciept, that should be good. Maybe it was just missing from the box? That happens sometimes.

Seems like they really started enforcing the warranty to "original owner only" as stated in 2014. Before that it seems they were doing owners (even secondhand owners) favors by fixing them for free, and now they are trying to avoid doing that.

I would wait for them to respond.

 
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Got my Compadre tonight. But there was no warranty card in the box. I asked the dealer and he said:

Items with lifetime warranties don't need to be registered what would you be telling them? they don't care who bought it doesn't that make sense?

I know that's not true right?? I have an email in to Tesoro, hopefully they can direct me as to what to do.


Call them...they are not great with e mail.
 
FYI, they told me to send the receipt and serial number to [email protected] and they would take care of it.


*Update: All taken care of and registered. Looking forward to using my Compadre as soon as the winter is over!!*

Jason
 
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Church of the Compadre...evilpenguinj's post #850

: Originally Posted by evilpenguinj View post
OK I am sure this is a really stupid question, but is putting the Compadre together a simple thing? Are the instructions straight forward? Is there a video of someone assembling one? Looking forward to getting mine, even though it is winter and I can't really use it. I plan on trying to practice with it somewhere in my house where I can find a spot with no metal.

Thanks guys!

Jason

Hi evilpenquinj :tiphat:

With reference to your above comment I colored red, here's a suggestion we can call your "Test Garden box".

(1) Layout a pencil sketch with dimensions of a rectangle that will accommodate the number of sample targets you would like to have, with enough clearance from target-to-target and all sides of the box to allow for moving your detector coil over each target without signaling an adjacent target or bumping the sides of the box. With the Compadre, you won't need to move the coil laterally in any direction more than 1" left or right past each target to hear a signal, so you can plot a grid for the targets on this basis, or use 1½" or 2" if you can accept a larger box and the added weight of soil. (See formula below to calculate soil weight.)

Keep in mind that after filling the box with soil at step (5) it will be heavy to lift. So, if you think you might ever want to move the box, bolt some strong handles to each end and remove some of the soil to reduce weight and prevent a back injury.

(2) To calculate the weight of the soil (Not including weight of the box), first determine the number of in3 (cubic inches) using the inside dimensions of your box. Then use the "Average weight of a cubic foot of dirt" information along with the math formula, etc. below to calculate the weight of dirt in a full box. You can substitute the weight of different types of dirt in the formula to make comparisons.

If the box size you want and weight of soil are too heavy to lift even when removing some of the soil, then place the box of dirt permanently in your basement, if you have one and in that case you might be able to skip step (4) if there is no rebar in the basement floor.

(3) Make a wooden box out of pine, or see if you can find a plastic tub close to the inside dimensions you marked on your dimensioned sketch.

(4) Set-up a riser platform to get the Test Garden box up off of the floor to be sure the Compadre coil signals don't reach any metal, like floor joist bridging straps, nails in the joists, etc.. You could use two 8" square concrete blocks and place a piece of 3/4" plywood or pine boards on top.

(5) Fill the box with soil to a height of your liking. I would suggest up to 1" below the top edge of the box, to provide plenty of soil depth for planting sample targets.

(6) Plant sample targets (Your choice of Coins, Jewelry, pull tabs, trash or relics) in the soil at various measured depths. Read step (7) before doing this.

(7) Push a wood or plastic gulf tee down flush with the top of the soil over each target right after planting each target, to be sure of it's position.

(8) Have fun !


Average weight of a cubic foot of dirt (copied from the Internet)

A cubic foot of soil weighs between 74 and 110 pounds, depending on the type of soil and how moist it is. Dry, loose dirt weighs about 76 pounds per cubic foot, while moist, loose dirt weighs 78 pounds per cubic foot. A cubic foot of top soil weighs about 96 pounds, and a cubic foot of dry, screened top soil weighs 44 to 48 pounds.

I assume the above weights from the Internet are Avoirdupois.

Using the above example "Dry, loose dirt weighs about 76 pounds per cubic foot" and knowing that 1 cubic foot = 1728 cubic inches, we can use the following cross-multiplication formula to calculate the weight of the soil in your Test Garden box. Knowing this will help you make a decision on the box size you want to use. You can substitute the different weights given for type and moisture level of soil in the formula, congruous with your soil. The number 1728 is the only constant in the formula.

Formula :
76 / 1728 = A/B

Legend :
B = total cubic inches inside your box.
A = lbs per cubic inch

Step 1.. (76 x B) ÷ 1728 = A
Step 2..A x B = Total pounds of soil in your box.

Example :
Lets say hypothetically that the total cubic inches inside your box=3456 in3 (12" W x 24" L x 12" Deep).
Then B = 3456 in3 and 76 x 3456 = 262,656.00 in3 ÷ 1728 in3 = 152 total pounds of dry loose dirt. You probably don't want to lift that much, so remove some of the dirt before lifting and moving the box.

Hope this helps ! :wave:

ToddB64
 
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Church of the Compadre...evilpenguinj's post #850

Thanks so much for the long and detailed post.

Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

evilpenguinj,

My pleasure !

Hope it helps you figure out your indoor Test garden.

The Compadre with the 5.75" coil + reading all of Digger27's help-tips will be your "best bang for the buck" and most profitable time reading.

Good Luck when Spring breaks. :money:

ToddB64
 
About a month ago I was looking for my first detector, and came across this thread. It made me a believer, and I was going to get one. Then a friend of mine who is a long time MD'er suggested against it only because he had no experience with one, and he thought an analog machine would make the future learning curve more difficult when I moved up to something else. With that said, he recommended the F22 as a great beginner machine, and I agreed after doing my own research. I ws ready to make the purchase, but found a like new White's TreasurePro at a pawn shop for dirt cheap. It still even has warranty.

I live in Florida (read as "Sandbar"), and realized that while the Tpro is great in the dry, it won't do well in the wet sand/surf. One of the pawn shops I visited last month told me about an Excal II they had that would be coming out of pawn early February, so I stopped by there today. The Excal was sold the same day it came out, so I was S.O.L. :(

But! There was something new hanging on the wall - a beautiful shiny Compadre! Price was irresistible, and less then 5 minutes later, I became a full-fledged member of The Church of Compadre! :D

I haven't done a thin with it yet, other then turn it on, but I'm stoked! I'm looking forward to the smaller coil for tot-lots, and it seems I'm digging (almost) everything anyway, so the lack of the display and VDI numbers aren't something I think I'll miss.

Anyways, this is my hell-week (wife and I own a flowershop, and it's Valentine's week), so not sure when I'll be able to get out and actually try it out, but I'm really looking forward to it!

How is the Compadre on dry sand? And how about wet salt sand, any use at all?
 
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