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XP Deus worth it?

And hey,if you guys wanna convince people to spend thousands to find nickels,well that's the blind leading the blind.Oh,my 2500 dollar 3030 found this shiny mercury dime the at pro missed.lol
 
woodbutcher said:
And hey,if you guys wanna convince people to spend thousands to find nickels,well that's the blind leading the blind.Oh,my 2500 dollar 3030 found this shiny mercury dime the at pro missed.lol
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We're not talking about a $2500 3030, we're talking about a deus which starts at $950. The top package Msrp is $1600 and I got mine for well below that price. OP never stated what he hunted for. If you're only looking for nickels, then I wouldn't suggest you buy a deus either. :cool:
 
I can say Deus detector will alert users to nonferrous targets that many other detectors if run over the same target/site, won't alert the user too. This when using discrimination. Now remember the detecting scenario has to be met for this to happen. Not all detectors are created equal. And yes location does play a part, but this goes for all detectors. I'm pretty sure for example I can go to a hundred year old house yard and take an ACE 250. If the yard has never been detected, I would find many things. But what if the yard has been hunted before? This is where things get interesting. What if I hunted the yard say after it was pounded with Ace 250?? Let's say I took At Pro and pounded the yard. I would more than likely find some more things. Now what if I took an etrac and hunted the yard behind the AT Pro? I would again probably find some things, only this time the finds would likely be deeper. Now say I took a Deus and hunted the yard. I would probably find some things, the number of finds could be more or less than the etrac hunt. Why, because in order for the Deus to find a find (excluding small gold) that the etrac missed, the find would have to have been hidden/masked from the etrac, meaning the detecting scenario for the find in question was met with Deus-not ace 250, AT Pro, or etrac. All the above for argument sake means the coil was passed over all the ground by all mentioned detectors. This detecting scenario in which I refer is very important to keep in mind when detecting. Remember the angle from which a target in the ground is approached can have a bearing on how it will respond with the different detectors, and with some detectors this "approach angle will be more forgiving". And some detectors no matter what angle of approach will yield no diggable signal at all when using discrimination. So there are increased detecting capabilities brought into the mix when using say high level priced units vs mid level priced units. But remember the detecting scenario has to be met to see the advantages/benefits. Remember also metal detectors don't generate/make coins etc either. Meaning if they are not there they cannot be detected.
 
woodbutcher said:
Other than wireless what feature does the dues have over the 705?I could name some the 705 has the dues don't,and should for the price.
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Well, I don't have to buy multiple coils to run different frequencies for one. 2: for $60 bucks I can make the deus waterproof to 10 feet, which is an important factor to me. I can design and save my own custom programs to use in different sites based on where I am and what I'm hunting. I can plug it into my computer and dowload updates straight to the control box rather than having to send it in. Just to name a few.
 
Dad2kmr said:
Well, I don't have to buy multiple coils to run different frequencies for one. 2: for $60 bucks I can make the deus waterproof to 10 feet, which is an important factor to me. I can design and save my own custom programs to use in different sites based on where I am and what I'm hunting. I can plug it into my computer and dowload updates straight to the control box rather than having to send it in. Just to name a few.
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And the Deus is as light as a feather. The control box can be removed and put in your pocket or pouch. ( Mine hasn't been attached to my machine for more than a year). May not seem like much but after using my other detector, an E Trac, it is a huge difference. The wireless headphones allow me to hear outside noises without removing them whereas with other headphones I need to remove them to talk to someone.
 
detectingpro said:
I guess another question I have is, Is the dues chattery? Whats a good comparison detector to the chatter of the deus?
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Some good videos at the Deus website showing how, when and why to be as quiet or chattery as you need. I think there is a 10 video series, I watched most of them last night, very helpful.
 
detectingpro said:
I'm searching for my next detector. :D Was wondering if the deus is worth a look at since lowering the price on it..

I haven't seen much discussion on the XP deus on this forum, and all youtube videos I find on it are either foreign, or from the UK. So does anyone have any experience using the deus in the states? How deep does it go? Is it good on the beach or trashy parks? What are some strengths and weaknesses?

Thanks!
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Not at all worth it! lol But watch these videos of our hunts. lol

http://www.bigboyshobbies.net/xp-deus-metal-detecting-videos
 
I feel the deus can be chatty. But it's not as chatty as say the nonupgraded Fisher F75 units. The chattiness is there with the Deus, but it doesn't seem to to hinder hearing/distinguishing a good tone/target. The Deus chatter seems more levelly pronounced /steady, so when one gets accustomed to hearing it, they really don't notice it. At least for me anyways.
 
Max I would pay for a detector in this hobby is $400-600. Even at
good sites our trash (or iron) to good finds ratio is totally not in our favor.
In other words I can,t see spending $1200-1500 or more for a detector
as there is no upswing in technology that is going to help with that ratio
any different than a mid priced detector as they all work the same way.
You might gain some depth, but you have to watch what you wish for, you
might be digging twice a deep. In hard sun baked park soil that does not
sound like much fun to me. Keep in mind this is a subjective topic
and you can spend your hard earned money anyway you like as we
all have different spending philosophies.

Also the extra $800-1000 you save you could spend on a lot of great accessories to round out the hobby.

1-good diggers both relic and hand
2-pinpointer pp/AT or TRX
3-coin tumbler
4-lastest coin guide
5-backpack
6-extra coil
7-still have money left over to take the wife out for a nice dinner
 
I agree, people can spend their money how they choose, for me personally i spend a lot of time metal detecting, i know i probably won't find enough to pay for my detectors or equipment but it's no different than guys paying thousands for golf clubs or motorcycles or whatever they enjoy. if a 1500 detector helps me find a handful of things i wouldn't have found with a lower end detector, it's worth it to me. the joy for me comes from what's in each and every hole i dig.
 
also, last year i swung an etrac and i developed serious elbow issues so the weight of the deus alone is worth the money spent.
 
I made up my mind about spending money on detectors when I had a few grand in this hobby.And for what I thought, and I'll say it again,I'm not paying a thousand or more to find a merc that a 500 detector missed.Just seems nuts.But if having that merc means that much to someone,have at it.I have a college degree from the Indiana University of Pennsylvania in buisness, and I know business management targets select groups.And these detector companions sure got there fishhoooks in some of these guys,and it's a gold mine for them.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again. It is different from person to person as far as needs and or wants. I just want to add that anyone who doesn't think they gain anything, including depth, by using a top of the line compared to mid or low just hasn't used the top of the line correctly. But again that can vary from person to person. I've owned a 705

I have many years experience playing a guitar and I can take a $500 guitar and make it sound good. So why would I need to spend $2,000 on a guitar? Because on a $2,000 guitar I sound even better :D

I've owned a 705 and a SE Pro, great detectors by the way, but neither came close to the depth ability of the E-Trac or CTX.

Of course it does help that I've found more than enough to pay for several top of the line machines over the years.
 
woodbutcher said:
I made up my mind about spending money on detectors when I had a few grand in this hobby.And for what I thought, and I'll say it again,I'm not paying a thousand or more to find a merc that a 500 detector missed.Just seems nuts.But if having that merc means that much to someone,have at it.I have a college degree from the Indiana University of Pennsylvania in buisness, and I know business management targets select groups.And these detector companions sure got there fishhoooks in some of these guys,and it's a gold mine for them.
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Well, in OP's first post on this thread, he asked for input from people who have experience with the deus. He didn't ask what you would spend to find a merc. Unless you have some experience with the deus, this probably isn't the thread for you.
 
Your right and I understand.I hope you also cut and pasted everyone else's opinions about other detectors and things,other than the dues.Or maybe you just don't like the truth.
So let's talk about the deus.The bottom fell out on pricing,wonder why?And for such a new detector to our market,there's sure a lot of people selling or trying to trade them for another detector.That's what I do know.Maybe you guys that do own them don't wanna admit they're not all that great?Somthings going on and it can't be good.
 
woodbutcher said:
Your right and I understand.I hope you also cut and pasted everyone else's opinions about other detectors and things,other than the dues.Or maybe you just don't like the truth
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Lol! I havn't got the slightest clue what you're talking about. Cut and paste? Truth is subjective my friend. Not too long ago, it was "true" that the earth was flat. Just because you say something is true, doesn't make it so. Maybe you should be a little more open minded and see what new technology has to offer.
 
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