UV Lights and Fluorescent Minerals - a fun side hobby to metal detecting !

Here are pictures of the last 3 fluorescent specimens that KT brought back to the Castle from the Jackson, MS, Gem & Mineral Show last weekend.

The first specimen is a handsized piece of bladed white calcite, location given as Mexico. Since there are several dozen sites in Mexico that contain collectable calcite, KT attempted to find one that contains bladed fluorescent white calcite, but was unsuccessful. Every Mexican site that had anything looking similar all fluoresce red! So I will leave the site as simply Mexico. The first picture is in natural light and the second in LWUV 365nm.

The second pair of images are of silicified coral from north central Florida, another kind of vague location. But KT looked through a box with a couple of dozen specimens of this material and this one was absolutely the best piece. It is a bit smaller than the calcite, and the translucent brownish tan chalcedony is undamaged. It sits attractively too. First image is in natural light and the second image is in LWUV 365nm. It fluoresces a brilliant white.

The final specimen is of hyaline, a water clear variety of opal, as a thin coating on pegmatitic feldspar from Spruce Pine mine, Mitchell Co., NC. The first picture is in natural light and the second in UVLW 365nm. The brilliant green color is due to traces of Uranium captured in the opal. It is a flat specimen measuring ~3.5" long. KT had a self collected specimen of this material but when the Royal Collection sold, it went with it. At that time KT was not interested particularly in fluorescent minerals, so His Majesty is happy to have another nice example in the Royal Collection!

Hope you enjoy the pictures!

Interesting contrast of textures between the first two KT !!!!

Definitely not your average looking rocks !

The one with the eerie green glow due to "traces of Uranium" - are you sure you don't need a Geiger counter ? :shock: (just joking :lol:)

Enjoyed the pics KT, thanks for posting those !
 
Interesting contrast of textures between the first two KT !!!!

Definitely not your average looking rocks !

The one with the eerie green glow due to "traces of Uranium" - are you sure you don't need a Geiger counter ? :shock: (just joking :lol:)

Enjoyed the pics KT, thanks for posting those !

Nope, no geiger counter needed! It would set a g-counter off, but KT has this stored where it is no problem. The average person thinks...radiation! OMG! But you get radiation every day....by way of sunlight. That is radiation too. There is no natural radioactive mineral regulated in the USA, simply because the levels are so low in ores...they may make a counter go crazy, but don't do much to anyone...unless you ingest them! :laughing::laughing::laughing: Hmmm, you want some fries to go with that???:?::?:

They only become dangerous to handle once they go through the refining process. Unfortunately we do not have a "glow in the dark" emoji in the forum! :lol::lol:
 
Nope, no geiger counter needed! It would set a g-counter off, but KT has this stored where it is no problem. The average person thinks...radiation! OMG! But you get radiation every day....by way of sunlight. That is radiation too. There is no natural radioactive mineral regulated in the USA, simply because the levels are so low in ores...they may make a counter go crazy, but don't do much to anyone...unless you ingest them! :laughing::laughing::laughing: Hmmm, you want some fries to go with that???:?::?:

They only become dangerous to handle once they go through the refining process. Unfortunately we do not have a "glow in the dark" emoji in the forum! :lol::lol:

:laughing:

If you do a search online they show glow in the dark food :shock: not sure if I'd want to try it though :lol:

Here's a homemade "glow in the dark" emoji for you KT ! :laughing:

KT holding a really brilliant fluorescent rock :shock: :laughing:
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Super thanks to KT for recently sending me these two fluorescent rock specimens !!!! :thumbsup:

Now let me say that it's difficult to take pics under UV light that show how it looks in person, the camera's sensitivity tends to wash out how it looks in person, the contrast of the fluorescent glow is noticeably better in person.

Anyhow, here are the pics, first in normal light, then one trying to have the UV light positioned to reduce the wash out but that also reduces the amount of direct UV that makes the glow of the fluorescence brighter, then one with a more direct UV that has more of the wash out effect that diminishes the contrast of the fluorescence. (KT can tell you that UV photography can sometimes be a challenge :lol:) (I imagine fluorescent rock museums have some special photography equipment)

Sodalite Syenite, two specimens, both from Saline County, AR.

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Thanks again KT, my small (but very neat !) collection is now less small :D thanks to you !!!!
 
Super thanks to KT for recently sending me these two fluorescent rock specimens !!!! :thumbsup:

Now let me say that it's difficult to take pics under UV light that show how it looks in person, the camera's sensitivity tends to wash out how it looks in person, the contrast of the fluorescent glow is noticeably better in person.

Anyhow, here are the pics, first in normal light, then one trying to have the UV light positioned to reduce the wash out but that also reduces the amount of direct UV that makes the glow of the fluorescence brighter, then one with a more direct UV that has more of the wash out effect that diminishes the contrast of the fluorescence. (KT can tell you that UV photography can sometimes be a challenge :lol:) (I imagine fluorescent rock museums have some special photography equipment)

Sodalite Syenite, two specimens, both from Saline County, AR.

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Thanks again KT, my small (but very neat !) collection is now less small :D thanks to you !!!!

KT is happy to know you like them! Yes, UV photography can be quite challenging, that is one reason KT has to fiddle around with His Royal Photos in the Royal Computers equivalent to Photoshop to tweak the images for better color rendition (more like the Royal Eye sees the specimen under UV light). It is also difficult to get a proper focus with UV if your camera is an autofocus type...something about the wavelength shift affects the autofocus to where it is slightly out of focus.:p:p:p:p

Presently KT is patiently waiting for a specimen from Afghanistan to arrive from the Pakistani seller on eBay. Sometimes this takes up to two weeks longer than they say in the listing! But I expect it to be worth waiting on! When it arrives, it will be promptly photographed and posted in this thread!:D:D:D
 
KT is happy to know you like them! Yes, UV photography can be quite challenging, that is one reason KT has to fiddle around with His Royal Photos in the Royal Computers equivalent to Photoshop to tweak the images for better color rendition (more like the Royal Eye sees the specimen under UV light). It is also difficult to get a proper focus with UV if your camera is an autofocus type...something about the wavelength shift affects the autofocus to where it is slightly out of focus.:p:p:p:p

Presently KT is patiently waiting for a specimen from Afghanistan to arrive from the Pakistani seller on eBay. Sometimes this takes up to two weeks longer than they say in the listing! But I expect it to be worth waiting on! When it arrives, it will be promptly photographed and posted in this thread!:D:D:D

Interesting idea adjusting the image on your computer, after all we are trying to show how it actually looks in person under UV as much as is possible in photo form, though it still always tends to have a better WOW factor in person :shock: :lol:

Long forward to seeing what the specimen from Afghanistan looks like !
 
GKL, KT has started corresponding with a fellow, some 84 years old, in Sweden. He has been collecting minerals, especially fluorescent specimens, for many many years and has traveled all over Germany, Finland, Sweden, and even parts of Africa many times. I purchased a specimen from him off eBay, which is now on route, and we began corresponding. An email I received from him today noted that he would send me a box of fl. specimens from his travels, but it may take a couple of weeks for him to get them in the mail to me due to health problems, but now KT is excited to see what will come in the mail from him, other than the one specimen I bought! Life can be exciting when you let it!! :lol::lol:
 
GKL, KT has started corresponding with a fellow, some 84 years old, in Sweden. He has been collecting minerals, especially fluorescent specimens, for many many years and has traveled all over Germany, Finland, Sweden, and even parts of Africa many times. I purchased a specimen from him off eBay, which is now on route, and we began corresponding. An email I received from him today noted that he would send me a box of fl. specimens from his travels, but it may take a couple of weeks for him to get them in the mail to me due to health problems, but now KT is excited to see what will come in the mail from him, other than the one specimen I bought! Life can be exciting when you let it!! :lol::lol:

Wow, that's neat KT !!!!

I imagine you might feel like a kid waiting for Christmas morning to see what you are getting ! :?: :lol:
:present:

(hope his health problems get better)
 
Wow, that's neat KT !!!!

I imagine you might feel like a kid waiting for Christmas morning to see what you are getting ! :?: :lol:
:present:

(hope his health problems get better)

His health problems are due to taking a fall on the ice, and he fractured a couple of vertebra, so he living on a morphine based pill to be able to walk around, etc.! But he assures me he is slowly on the mend!

And yes, KT is certainly excited! :laughing::laughing:
 
His health problems are due to taking a fall on the ice, and he fractured a couple of vertebra, so he living on a morphine based pill to be able to walk around, etc.! But he assures me he is slowly on the mend!

And yes, KT is certainly excited! :laughing::laughing:

Glad to hear at least it is a problem that will mend and not an ongoing chronic problem.

Hey, part of the fun is the anticipation of what you'll be getting !

.....after it finally arrives you'll be like.... :kingdances: _______ :lol:
 
One of my US specimens arrived today! Yea!

KT has a nice specimen to display in this post....it consists of fluorescent green Willemite and fluorescent red Calcite from the Sterling Hill Mine in New Jersey. This site is one of the more famous fluorescent sites in the world and is the most famous in the USA. Over 100 minerals are known from this location, many of which are fluorescent!

The specimen is ~ 3.75" measured in a horizontal position, making it a fist sized specimen. The first picture is in natural light. The black mineral is non-fluorescent franklinite, named for this locality near Franklin, NJ. The second picture was taken with LWUV 365nm light. The Willemite is bright blue-green and the Calcite is strong orange red. The last picture was taken with SWUV 254nm light. The Willemite is a strong bright grass-green and the Calcite a dull red.

Enjoy this specimen from a famous locality!
 

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KT has a nice specimen to display in this post....it consists of fluorescent green Willemite and fluorescent red Calcite from the Sterling Hill Mine in New Jersey. This site is one of the more famous fluorescent sites in the world and is the most famous in the USA. Over 100 minerals are known from this location, many of which are fluorescent!

The specimen is ~ 3.75" measured in a horizontal position, making it a fist sized specimen. The first picture is in natural light. The black mineral is non-fluorescent franklinite, named for this locality near Franklin, NJ. The second picture was taken with LWUV 365nm light. The Willemite is bright blue-green and the Calcite is strong orange red. The last picture was taken with SWUV 254nm light. The Willemite is a strong bright grass-green and the Calcite a dull red.

Enjoy this specimen from a famous locality!

Super neat KT !!!! :thumbsup:

That is a unique looking specimen that should stand out in your collection.

The view under 365nm light is a neat color combination different from many specimens you normally see, not that other specimens aren't neat looking also, but this one seems somewhat unique in it's color combination than what you often see.

Also neat is the distinct difference in how it looks under 254nm light !

Yep, I am familiar with the Sterling Hill Mine from their online web site, I think that likely all fluorescent rockhounds wish they had a "Sterling Hill Mine"-like area close to where they live !
:iwish: :laughing:
 
Super neat KT !!!! :thumbsup:

That is a unique looking specimen that should stand out in your collection.

The view under 365nm light is a neat color combination different from many specimens you normally see, not that other specimens aren't neat looking also, but this one seems somewhat unique in it's color combination than what you often see.

Also neat is the distinct difference in how it looks under 254nm light !

Yep, I am familiar with the Sterling Hill Mine from their online web site, I think that likely all fluorescent rockhounds wish they had a "Sterling Hill Mine"-like area close to where they live !
:iwish: :laughing:

KT understands that! When Prince John was 3 years old, the Royal Family went on trip to the east. One of the places we visited was the Sterling Hill Mine, traded some zinc specimens for a couple of neat fluorescent specimens for the Arkansas State Collection, and took a tour of the Mine. Seeing the rainbow room was quite an experience! KT was too young a kinglet to visit during the heyday years of dump searching that used to be allowed. Now the dumps are too picked over to yield anything worthwhile, after having 1000s of people crawling over them with UV lamps! :shock::shock::lol::lol:

I have a good friend in Kentucky who is saving a box of Sterling Hill specimens for me. He told me they are just a bunch of gray and white rocks to him! Of course he is teasing olde KT, as he knows what he has. We have discussed trading for them whenever he makes it back down here to the Castle. :lol::lol:
 
KT understands that! When Prince John was 3 years old, the Royal Family went on trip to the east. One of the places we visited was the Sterling Hill Mine, traded some zinc specimens for a couple of neat fluorescent specimens for the Arkansas State Collection, and took a tour of the Mine. Seeing the rainbow room was quite an experience! KT was too young a kinglet to visit during the heyday years of dump searching that used to be allowed. Now the dumps are too picked over to yield anything worthwhile, after having 1000s of people crawling over them with UV lamps! :shock::shock::lol::lol:

I have a good friend in Kentucky who is saving a box of Sterling Hill specimens for me. He told me they are just a bunch of gray and white rocks to him! Of course he is teasing olde KT, as he knows what he has. We have discussed trading for them whenever he makes it back down here to the Castle. :lol::lol:

Sounds like you had fun at the museum !

Maybe if you get enough specimens you can paint a room black and glue specimens all over the walls and ceiling :shock: :laughing: (just kidding :lol:)

Hey, sounds like you have another surprise batch of minerals to look forward to !

I wasn't sure if I misunderstood if you meant they no longer allow collecting, if so, it looks like they allow it again now, I just checked their web site and saw this:

https://www.sterlinghillminingmuseum.org/mineral-collecting

from the above link:

"Our mine run dump area is perfect for avid mineral collectors. There are two main sections to our mine run dump, the International pile and the Local pile. The International pile contains diverse minerals from all over the world that people can dig through. The Local pile contains hundred of tons of high-grade zinc ore that was derived from the Sterling Hill Mine itself. Much of the ore in the local pile is full of highly fluorescent minerals. There is a shed on the mine run dump which has a shortwave ultraviolet light in which collectors can check their rocks and see if they do fluoresce.

MINERAL COLLECTING FEES:
$5.00 PER PERSON FOR ADMISSION
$2.00 PER LB OF ROCK
5 POUND MINIMUM
MINE RUN DUMP RULES:
1. MUST BE AT LEAST 18 YEARS OF AGE.
2. MUST HAVE APPROPRIATE ATTIRE (CLOSED TOED SHOES, ETC).

Mine Run Dump Hours:
Open Saturday and Sunday 10:00 AM to 3:00 PM
Weather permitting as this area is completely exposed to the elements.

I also remembered the other fluorescent museum (Franklin) and they allow collecting too -

https://franklinmineralmuseum.com/visit/

from the above link:

"Rock Collecting only

Adults $12.00
Children (3-16) $10.00
Senior Citizens (65+) & Veterans $11.00

Includes collecting bag and two pounds of specimens per paid admission. Additional poundage fee: $2 per pound.
All persons going into rock collecting areas must pay admission. Collecting area closes 30-minutes prior to museum closing."
 
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Sounds like you had fun at the museum !

Maybe if you get enough specimens you can paint a room black and glue specimens all over the walls and ceiling :shock: :laughing: (just kidding :lol:)

Hey, sounds like you have another surprise batch of minerals to look forward to !

I wasn't sure if I misunderstood if you meant they no longer allow collecting, if so, it looks like they allow it again now, I just checked their web site and saw this:

https://www.sterlinghillminingmuseum.org/mineral-collecting

from the above link:

"Our mine run dump area is perfect for avid mineral collectors. There are two main sections to our mine run dump, the International pile and the Local pile. The International pile contains diverse minerals from all over the world that people can dig through. The Local pile contains hundred of tons of high-grade zinc ore that was derived from the Sterling Hill Mine itself. Much of the ore in the local pile is full of highly fluorescent minerals. There is a shed on the mine run dump which has a shortwave ultraviolet light in which collectors can check their rocks and see if they do fluoresce.

MINERAL COLLECTING FEES:
$5.00 PER PERSON FOR ADMISSION
$2.00 PER LB OF ROCK
5 POUND MINIMUM
MINE RUN DUMP RULES:
1. MUST BE AT LEAST 18 YEARS OF AGE.
2. MUST HAVE APPROPRIATE ATTIRE (CLOSED TOED SHOES, ETC).

Mine Run Dump Hours:
Open Saturday and Sunday 10:00 AM to 3:00 PM
Weather permitting as this area is completely exposed to the elements.

I also remembered the other fluorescent museum (Franklin) and they allow collecting too -

https://franklinmineralmuseum.com/visit/

from the above link:

"Rock Collecting only

Adults $12.00
Children (3-16) $10.00
Senior Citizens (65+) & Veterans $11.00

Includes collecting bag and two pounds of specimens per paid admission. Additional poundage fee: $2 per pound.
All persons going into rock collecting areas must pay admission. Collecting area closes 30-minutes prior to museum closing."

In the good olde days, collecting was free and there was no charge per pound, AND no weight limit! So even though one may still collect there, it is NOT the same! And at $2/pound, the cost can mount up quickly if one is not careful. Without a location, the value of any specimen, fluorescent or not, is greatly decreased, so it might be great for rockhounds but no serious collector would bother with collecting from a pile from diverse localities, no specific sites given. IMHO. :lol::lol:
 
In the good olde days, collecting was free and there was no charge per pound, AND no weight limit! So even though one may still collect there, it is NOT the same! And at $2/pound, the cost can mount up quickly if one is not careful. Without a location, the value of any specimen, fluorescent or not, is greatly decreased, so it might be great for rockhounds but no serious collector would bother with collecting from a pile from diverse localities, no specific sites given. IMHO. :lol::lol:

Understood, okay for casual collectors to get interesting looking fluorescent rocks, but not for the serious collector who needs a source location to maximize each specimen's value.
:research: :lookclose: :lol:

I did a search to see if there were any fairly recent reviews of both locations and found these, the first link included a comment saying the Sterling Hill location was closed due to Covid but to call to verify and included a phone number.

https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/14169

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g46702-d584517-Reviews-Sterling_Hill_Mining_Museum-Ogdensburg_New_Jersey.html

https://www.hobokengirl.com/the-sterling-hill-mining-museum-new-jersey/

https://thedigestonline.com/nj/sterling-hill-mining-museum/

https://www.fomsnj.org/FAQs.aspx

Also saw this link:

Spring Swap & Sell at the Franklin Mineral Museum April 23, 2022

https://www.mindat.org/mesg-585554.html

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Understood, okay for casual collectors to get interesting looking fluorescent rocks, but not for the serious collector who needs a source location to maximize each specimen's value.
:research: :lookclose: :lol:

I did a search to see if there were any fairly recent reviews of both locations and found these, the first link included a comment saying the Sterling Hill location was closed due to Covid but to call to verify and included a phone number.

https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/14169

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g46702-d584517-Reviews-Sterling_Hill_Mining_Museum-Ogdensburg_New_Jersey.html

https://www.hobokengirl.com/the-sterling-hill-mining-museum-new-jersey/

https://thedigestonline.com/nj/sterling-hill-mining-museum/

https://www.fomsnj.org/FAQs.aspx

Also saw this link:

Spring Swap & Sell at the Franklin Mineral Museum April 23, 2022

https://www.mindat.org/mesg-585554.html

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Good summary of what can be found on the internet about this classic location. Thanks, GKL!
 
Back to some interesting fluorescent minerals!

Two specimens arrived in the Royal Post today! The first one is Opal, variety Hyaline. Technically opal is not classified as a mineral, because it does not have a well defined crystalline structure. Hyaline is a variety that typically forms from silica-laden groundwater and as such it is very late forming in any mineralized sequence. Minute traces of Uranium are picked up and deposited as part of this mineral. Uranium causes a green fluorescent color. The first picture of opal just shows the encrusting nature of the mineraloid, and it is typically colorless. The second picture shows opal's response to LWUV 365nm light....a decent green glow. The third picture shows opal's response to SWUV 254nm light.....a stronger greener glow. These pictures were taken with KT's USB led microscope, set at 10X.

The second mineral is Austinite, an arsenic-bearing mineral, from its type locality of Gold Hill Mine, Toole County, Utah. The type locality is where it was first described from in science. It was interesting investigating this mineral because depending on which source KT went to He found it was not fluorescent, or fluorescent white (no wavelength specified). The eBay seller had pictures showing both white and yellow fluorescence, depending on the wavelength of the UV light. So KT was hopeful He might reproduce the seller's results to show it is both fluorescent and in two colors. So the first image is of Austinite in natural light. The second image is in SW UV 254nm and the third is in LW UV 365nm. All three images produced by my USB led microscope at 10X. The second image was bleached out due to the power of my UV light source so KT used an orange filter to remove all the blue in the image as the picture was taken. Yellow is what it looks like to the human eye, filter or not.

Enjoy the pictures! KT still has a number of specimens yet to arrive!
 

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