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Show me the evidence that the V3 is as good as the E-Track!

OkieDigger said:
'Nuff said.
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Nuff said? :lol: A 3 silver trip/outing and "nuff said"??? 3 silver days are common in local parks with our whites machines let alone any road trip we make to better places. I wouldn't even make a post about a few dimes let alone as some kind of testiment that the e-trac out performs the V. :lol:
 
RacerX said:
Nuff said? :lol: A 3 silver trip/outing and "nuff said"??? 3 silver days are common in local parks with our whites machines let alone any road trip we make to better places. I wouldn't even make a post about a few dimes let alone as some kind of testiment that the e-trac out performs the V. :lol:
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3 Silvers? Yeah, not exciting, but this line...

After digging down 7" I finally found it on edge. Sweet. Gotta love the E-Trac's ability to find those on edge coins.

IS a testament to the ETrac in my book.

Can't wait for mine to arrive!
 
RacerX said:
Nuff said? :lol: A 3 silver trip/outing and "nuff said"??? 3 silver days are common in local parks with our whites machines let alone any road trip we make to better places. I wouldn't even make a post about a few dimes let alone as some kind of testiment that the e-trac out performs the V. :lol:
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Must be nice to live in silver rich areas. If it were all about numbers, then I could say there are way more people finding silver coins and lots of them with the E-Trac on this forum than V3 users. But hey, that's not what my post was about. You probably knew that, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Jason in Enid seems to have gotten the point of the post.

BTW, you've never started one thread on this forum showing your finds. Not that I really care too much, but why don't you? Most on this forum are friendly and like to see even one thin silver dime. If you're finding silver dollars and having multi-silver days like you say, you should post them. BTW, your buddy is a White's dealer right? I'm sure there's no bias there. I own White's and Minelab just incase you couldn't read signatures.
 
OkieDigger said:
BTW, you've never started one thread on this forum showing your finds. Not that I really care too much, but why don't you? Most on this forum are friendly and like to see even one thin silver dime. If you're finding silver dollars and having multi-silver days like you say, you should post them.
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Not into posting my finds so much, thanks. My point is - I've had days with 10+ silvers using my XLT. Does that make my XLT better or deeper than an E-trac? using the example you posted I would say yes. :p

Also, FTR, I did post a dollar I found last week on a thread they were requested on. Touting my finds (unless it's somethign worth posting) and pounding my chest is just not my thing as I suspect is the case with many V3 users.


BTW, your buddy is a White's dealer right? I'm sure there's no bias there. I own White's and Minelab just incase you couldn't read signatures.
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Yes my buddy is a Whites dealer. A whites dealer who uses a minelab just about half the time we go out. Bias? Not at all. I respect other machines (including ML's upper end stuff) and have taken a beating from him many a hunt - but thats due to his experience and not his detector. I would never suggest one is better than another. Someday I'll likely own an e-trac or SE in my aresenal and you won't catch me bashing either here or any other forum.
 
So let me get this correct. You're bashing my 3 silver day saying that you get more than that with your White's, but then say you're not biased or bashing. Why mention the White's then and why bash my post? Also, no where did I state that 3 silvers was any reason to purchase the E-Trac over a V3. My post was to show actual evidence that silver coins can be found with the E-Trac near iron and/or on edge at decent depths. I'm sure the V3 can do this as well. My intent was to show the OP what the E-Trac can do.

It's obvious you're post was in bad taste as was your response. For one who doesn't like to beat his chest, you sure like to show it. How about offering something more for the forum readers...
 
My Opinion. Here it is for the record. Take an out-of-the=box E-Trac and an out-of-the-box V3 and give them both to a beginner and that individual is going to be finding Silver with the E-Trac long before they find their first piece with the V3. Give the same machines to an experienced user and I will still give the edge to the E-Trac. Modify the V3 with a better coil (SEF 10x12) and use the custom tone setting to modify the -95 to -93 range and accept that range in your discrimination pattern as well, and now you have a V3 that will run deeper than the E-Trac. The choice of the D2 coil by Whites is it's weakness in my opinion. Because of the 22.5 kHz frequency the targets will wrap to the negative side when deep. The versatility of the V3 allows for you to compensate for this though. I will have my E-trac by February or March. Not because it's better than the V3, but because it has a clear advantage when it comes to deep silver. You can never have to many detectors either. :D We are fortunate to have some very experienced Whites users here on the forum. What makes them even more valuable is these long time Whites users have purchased E-Tracs and have very good perspective on essential differences. Angel, Okie and Detector are very experienced, and you stand to learn a lot if you follow their post. That being said, I would go head to head on a test garden with any of them and I believe the V3 would prevail at this point. :lol:

Keep Swing'in
Jack
 
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Come on guys!! :snapoutofit: There is really only one main rule on this Forum, Be Friendly!! Let's all play nice boys & girls!!:please:
 
some good replies here but it is rather out of hand... not down for a friendly wrestling match over who's is deeper/better/more finds... please lock it.
 
Folks...the original poster has had his question answered. His last post was #8 and we're now in the 30's.

Let's keep this civil...please.

Respectfully,

John
 
Nice post Jack. I'm eagerly awaiting your purchase of the E-Trac. Both machines are great machines. Both have pros and cons. I'd like to add to your list of experienced (experience comes from use) E-Trac users. Epi-Hunter, SteveMN, PhilB, Jack Flynn, Coinnut, bigjohn070, NiagracountyNY and a few more (forgive me if I forget all your names) that use and post about their experiences right here on FMDF. Some of these people use both the V3 and the E-Trac and I have learned from them. Many more on this forum are learning the great things that this detector can do.
 
OkieDigger said:
So let me get this correct. You're bashing my 3 silver day saying that you get more than that with your White's, but then say you're not biased or bashing.
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Not at all, I'd be very happy with a day like that, especially with the barber. What i am saying is I wouldn't post it (or any other example) in a thread like this as some sort of example of the e-trac being better. If that was not your intent, I request you go back and read it and maybe see how it could have been translated that way.


And you keep accusing me of bias. I never said or implied the V3 was better. ;) I actually agree with Jacks post - except the part about the D2 being a mistake - but thats because it works well in our soil. Not sure what else they would have put on it. The 950? Too mild. All others in whites arsenal are either too small or large. I know there was some talk of releasing it with the Super 12, a deep coil but masking and weight are issues (that said I did well with it a few nights ago when I could get separation). I think they picked the best overall coil - when they don't fail. :p


For the mods/people suggesting this thread is not friendly.... For my part it's been friendly, though I admit forums are a terrible communication medium. Not being able to hear the inflection in someones voice etc. and I'm fairly certain it's remained respectful which should be the real goal.
 
RacerX said:
What i am saying is I wouldn't post it (or any other example) in a thread like this as some sort of example of the e-trac being better.
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I think you are confusing the quantity found with the conditions the finds came from.

You still never gave a response to my LAST response to you. Are you claiming that find a coin, on edge, at 7 inches in NOT an example of the qualities of this detector?
 
Jason in Enid said:
You still never gave a response to my LAST response to you. Are you claiming that find a coin, on edge, at 7 inches in NOT an example of the qualities of this detector?
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Nope. It's a great example. The e-trac (like the other ML's) is a great machine. You guys seem to think I'm bashing or dislike the the E. Not so, as I said I'll likely own either it or the SE when this economy turns.

I will say this, I think thats a better example of the coil. If I'm not mistaken the ET has a 10" DD coil??? DD coils do well with coins on edge in general. The D2coil is my first real experience with DD (outside of a prospecting machine) and I'm finding many more on edge coins. Kinda fun, it gives a really unique signal. It's also a better coil for separation from trash (and seeing past ground mineralization) than a concentric. I'm finding more coins that would otherwise be masked.
 
I have been reading this thread and also researching the V and E like a lot of people. One thing I find interesting, (on the Findmall forums) I see more people having problems with the V and more people finding deep silver with the E, yada yada, leaning curve yada, but... the classified section is littered with E's and rarely a V for sale. :?: I KNOW that they are both great machines and it would be a hard choice for me which to buy. The topic of this forum "evidence V is as good as E" leaves me wondering why so many people are selling the E? Check it out: http://www.findmall.com/list.php?44
 
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