Scoop Handle Tips?

[dugweiser]

Can anyone offer advice on how to create a handle strong enough for sand and water digging for a scoop that is 8" by 11" by 4" made of 2mm stainless steel with 3/8" holes?

I have tried using a hole digger hard wood handle from a home supply store. The tube for the handle is about 1 1/8" in diameter.

It cracked after maybe 30 or 40 digs.

Thanks...

 

[SeabeeRon]

Moved this to the Beach section. Think you will get your answer here.

 

[FelixtheCat]

Can you post a picture of your scoop? I think it would help.

 

[Irons]

The tube size is going to be difficult, it's too small. Look for a fiberglass shovel type handle.
I use Hisco fiberglass post hole digger handles and they are tough as nails but they are also 2 1/4 diameter. Good luck you will find one!

 

[Surf Master]

SunSpot

Chuck can make you handles, cut to fit, ash, as he made me 2 extra handles for a M-9, click on list all sponsors top right , happy hunting Earl

 

[Grumpy Since 55]

Can anyone offer advice on how to create a handle strong enough for sand and water digging for a scoop that is 8" by 11" by 4" made of 2mm stainless steel with 3/8" holes?

I have tried using a hole digger hard wood handle from a home supply store. The tube for the handle is about 1 1/8" in diameter.

It cracked after maybe 30 or 40 digs.

Thanks...

I can make suggestions, but you would need heavy equipment to carry them, let alone use them

 

[Crumble]

Main thing with wood handles is making sure the directing of the grain is parallel to the direction that you pull the scoop to dig. The wood I use for my scoop is pine, which is generally not a very strong wood, but it has held up through a lot of holes so far.

 

[romyrome]

Can anyone offer advice on how to create a handle strong enough for sand and water digging for a scoop that is 8" by 11" by 4" made of 2mm stainless steel with 3/8" holes?

I have tried using a hole digger hard wood handle from a home supply store. The tube for the handle is about 1 1/8" in diameter.

It cracked after maybe 30 or 40 digs.

Thanks...

Carbon fiber is what i use its light and strong

http://www.carbonfibertubeshop.com/medium tubing.html

https://youtu.be/oJ3aVg2T0Qs?t=787

 

[dewcon]

I use a HOE handle that you can get at any hardware store for around $18. Cut the end off and insert a 24" solid wood dowel. Ive used mine about 3 years now and we have sand like concrete. Gold Digger also uses them and he had damaged his sun spot scope about 3 times so that tells you they hold up well. The other end is sealed so they stand up fairly well in the water.

Takes awhile as well to learn how NOT to break a handle out there. Its as much a technique as digging neck deep water.

 

[Mud-puppy]

I like ash...It shouldnt break if you align the grain and get a feel for it.....it takes a while to get a feel for how much stress things can take without failure...so a guy takes several small scoops instead of one big one...easier in most situations too...

Some guys can break a crowbar or a brand new shovel handle....my stepson broke a brand new splitting maul once...never thought that was possible...
Mud

 

[dugweiser]

Thanks for moving the message SeabeeRon.

There are now a lot of helpful suggestions.

 

[dugweiser]

All the advice is appreciated.

I attached a picture in case it stirs any more suggestions.

I really thought I was limiting the pressure I put on it. When it broke, I definitely did not put that much pressure on it. Maybe it had just accumulated stress from prior digs and finally gave out.

 

[Crumble]

Wood grain is in the wrong direction. You want the grain lines pointing toward the tip and back of the scoop. It makes a huge difference. Wood can take like 4x the force parallel to the grain lines than it can perpendicular to the grain lines.

 

[dugweiser]

If I understand you, this handle just would not have worked.

But where do you find a handle where the grain would not be going lengthwise?

Thanks,

 

[Top-USMC]

If I understand you, this handle just would not have worked.

But where do you find a handle where the grain would not be going lengthwise?

Thanks,

No, he means rotate the handle 90 degrees, either direction.
Where you'll see those grain lines in the front of the scoop.

 

[FelixtheCat]

Wood grain is in the wrong direction. You want the grain lines pointing toward the tip and back of the scoop. It makes a huge difference. Wood can take like 4x the force parallel to the grain lines than it can perpendicular to the grain lines.

No, he means rotate the handle 90 degrees, either direction.
Where you'll see those grain lines in the front of the scoop.

X2

 

[dugweiser]

Working on it now. I'll let you know when it digs up the 24K.



Thanks!

 

[adamsehic]

I use a Lat pulldown bar from a gym. Bit heavy but won't break.


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[jtb2017]

Your gonna snap that and the tips gonna get stuck inside that scoop. Go 1 1/8 inch oak dowel. 1 1/4 inch cf shaft. Coat dowel with epoxy. Insert. Do so quickly or the epoxy will set and you will have it sticking half way out shaft. 48" length.

Probably worth while to get a real stavr not a knock off. I see some welds there that may fail. During crunch time you don't want a scoop failure. I ruined 1 cf shaft not coating dowel epoxy. Gl hh -Joe

 

[WaterWalker]

I have been using the same scoop bucket for 25 years and had 3 digging edges welded on and many handles. Before Carbon Fiber was available at a reasonable cost.
My scoop came with a steel handle which lasted well, but rusted and broke. I went to aluminum which lasted about 6 months, then double wall aluminum which lasted a bit longer then I hit on a stainless steel tube on eBay, that was about 12 years and several thousand hours ago. The stainless steel is heavy but the longest lasting handle I have every had. The bucket is now about worn through and I will move the handle to a back up one that I bought at an auction many years ago. If the stainless steel ever give up the ghost, I will go to carbon fiber.
Most of my detecting is done in salt water.
Good luck with your choice.