Racer vs AT Pro

[tnsharpshooter]

You got to be kidding , the hundred's of post's from TSN posted about the Racer being the Holly grail , for the money , has to be hard to swallow

No hard pill to swallow at all, $50 more for more depth, faster recovery--sounds pretty good to me. Racer with small OOR coil ROCKS in heavy iron!!!!!

I just wish this was the only type pill I had to ever swallow,,,, would make getting sick more of a dream vs nightmare!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Surf Master]

50.00 more -TSN

For current- issue's & not waterproof, my choice would be the ATPRO best regards, Ps whats the latest, ? Is the manufacturer going to cover breaking ear's on the Racer coil's since your a Racer expert howboutit

 

[Cfmct]

You got to be kidding , the hundred's of post's from TSN posted about the Racer being the Holly grail , for the money , has to be hard to swallow

I ignore that nonsense Earl... the proof will come from long term use not words on a screen...

 

[tnsharpshooter]

For current- issue's & not waterproof, my choice would be the ATPRO best regards, Ps whats the latest, ? Is the manufacturer going to cover breaking ear's on the Racer coil's since your a Racer expert howboutit

Not a Racer expert, rather an experienced Racer user.

In iron I know which detector is my top choice out of the 2!!!!!!
I don't hunt salt water beaches, but again if I did and had to choose, I again know which would be my top choice of the 2!!!!!!

If I had to do open field relic hunting, I again know which of the 2 is my top choice.

But some other folks may feel different, very understandable. But my picks are my picks.
Cheers Earl.

 

[woodbutcher]

I like the at pro,good all around machine.I do think Garrett could have done a few things different, a huge one for me is backlight.But it doesn't affect performance. The only other thing is the noise,I'm not the first to say it's a bit noisy,but that comes with just about every higher frequency machine.
If the racer and at pro were even in performance, speed and depth,id, ,,,I would lean towards the racer just for the fact of the backlight,and a few other neat features it has over the at pro.I like the at pro,but if waters not involved,its a no Brainer if they are equel in performance,racer all day.

 

[Cfmct]

Agreed!

And I also can't find anyone with either a AT Pro or a Racer that's dysfunctional and under warranty, and the manufacturer didn't take care of them.'

Both good detectors, Racer is deeper and has faster recovery, AT Pro is waterproof- pick your poison!!!!

cheers

Here is a picture of why the shaft snapped... why drill such a big hole to snake a couple of thin wires through it?

It is what it is and hopefully they will get all the bugs out

 

[Surf Master]

WoW

From the close up Craig, it look's like over 60% of the volume drilled into the shaft , for those small wire's 1/4, of that size hole would have been good , this is a major problem, any stress to the shaft will cause breakage & head damage, wiring issues ,that will require Shop time , and your warranty time getting eat- alive , out of only 2 years

 

[Cfmct]

From the close up Craig, it look's like over 60% of the volume drilled into the shaft , for those small wire's 1/4, of that size hole would have been good , this is a major problem, any stress to the shaft will cause breakage & head damage, wiring issues ,that will require Shop time , and your warranty time getting eat- alive , out of only 2 years

I'm not going to judge this company Earl... just putting the info out there for others to see... no detecting company is perfect... Garrett and the AT PRO roll out was not great, Whites and the Dual Coils again not great, Minelab and the CTX wasn't great either... I can go on but you should get my drift...

 

[Cherry Picker]

Does the breakaway shaft come on all models of the Racer or just the newer ones? LOL

 

[Surf Master]

Your correct Craig

But most, before spending any money now, seek to know the negative's, as I do, with 12 machine's, it has to be (special ) ***** before it's 13th. detector , I also watch if there is an issue , & how fast the manufacturer takes to fix the problem, and if they back it- under the warranty umbrella, not judging anything here , like I said before everything always comes out in the wash, I have 1 mid grade detector, a version 4 omega 8000, so getting a 2nd is unlikely, but I have followed the Racer threads, post's, just to see how people are making out with them, and also the hype produced from TSNs threads & post's are true, or false . Time will tell , as you are correct from users', Earl PS I am not a fan of the Atpro , I don't like the tones , and the Id screen size , it needs a re- design .

 

[George (MN)]

The AT Pro is very quiet for me, I use STD mode, iron disc max at 40, Coins program, ground balanced, iron ID off. Get 10" air test on dime.

Makro Racer 2 tone, sens 70+, disc 50+, stock it gets a good signal on dime at 13", 14" on quarter or nickel. The Makro Racer is somewhat more irritating to operate for max depth, so I guess people need to ask themselves if they are willing to dig down past 10". Raising/lowering disc is only way to ID deep coins.
With 4.5x5 DD coil, weak beeps on coins 10-12". With 15x13.5", weak beep on quarter at 18". Best wishes, all. George (MN)

Garrett could have done a few things different, a huge one for me is backlight. The only other thing is the noise,I'm not the first to say it's a bit noisy,but that comes with just about every higher frequency machine. I like the at pro,but if waters not involved,its a no Brainer if they are equel in performance,racer all day.

 

[itsaring!]

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008F8361E...5493e625d0343a99464_1941_2379_1182635598_3313

 

[ohiochris]

Seems here is a new one with AT Pro as well.

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?79,2096479

They have had an issue with the mounting screws not being as long as they could be , its not a new issue. But I havent had an issue with this , though I take good care of my stuff ,....we all know there are a lot of people out there that have very little sense when it comes to taking care of stuff. People let them roll around in the back of pickups , lean on them , use them like a crutch to get up off the dround , and generally treat them like they are indestructable..... instead of the delicate electronics shrouded in PLASTIC that they are. There is really only a handfull of people who have had this problem while massive numbers of ATP's have been used for years and never broke off. What may "look" like a quality issue superficially is probably more due to misuse. There are always those guys out there that go through life like a bull in a china shop and then wonder why their stuff dont last very long

 

[Surf Master]

itsaring

For the Racer guy's, ? Do those drill bit's come in a much smaller size , because I would want to build , and drill my own hole's in the shaft howboutit

 

[itsaring!]

They have had an issue with the mounting screws not being as long as they could be , its not a new issue. But I havent had an issue with this , though I take good care of my stuff ,....we all know there are a lot of people out there that have very little sense when it comes to taking care of stuff. People let them roll around in the back of pickups , lean on them , use them like a crutch to get up off the dround , and generally treat them like they are indestructable..... instead of the delicate electronics shrouded in PLASTIC that they are. There is really only a handfull of people who have had this problem while massive numbers of ATP's have been used for years and never broke off. What may "look" like a quality issue superficially is probably more due to misuse. There are always those guys out there that go through life like a bull in a china shop and then wonder why their stuff dont last very long

Yeah I remember someone posting a long time ago they cracked 3 Whites beachhunter ID cases in a row. I finally had to tell them to start taking care of their stuff. Was amazed Whites actually kept replacing their detector. My BHID is my second oldest machine and its still not cracked

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Here is a picture of why the shaft snapped... why drill such a big hole to snake a couple of thin wires through it?

It is what it is and hopefully they will get all the bugs out

You are only presuming this was the cause. I don't see any other failures in this area. Could the person using the detector in pic, have hit something hard while swinging, or even stepped on their detector??? Or even ran over it with something. Lots of Racer users here in the USA, noone else has experienced this problem.

I would never base or even presume anything on an isolated case/instance???

I see now we have shifted from actual performance to other areas??? I think I can see and understand why. And many other users of the Racer and use to be AT Pro users understand as well.

And believe it or not many detectors are damaged for reasons other than actual proper use. And many will not post or admit their doing so, for fear of warranty coverage not being applied or administered.

This is all true above---Cheers.

 

[NectarDetector]

You got to be kidding , the hundred's of post's from TSN posted about the Racer being the Holly grail , for the money , has to be hard to swallow

TN has completely forgotten about all his drivel touting the racer as DOMINATING the etrac AT PRO And Deus but he thinks we forgot too. Guess he was wrong

 

[NectarDetector]

Can you backpeddle any faster? LoL

You are only presuming this was the cause. I don't see any other failures in this area. Could the person using the detector in pic, have hit something hard while swinging, or even stepped on their detector??? Or even ran over it with something. Lots of Racer users here in the USA, noone else has experienced this problem.

I would never base or even presume anything on an isolated case/instance???

I see now we have shifted from actual performance to other areas??? I think I can see and understand why. And many other users of the Racer and use to be AT Pro users understand as well.

And believe it or not many detectors are damaged for reasons other than actual proper use. And many will not post or admit their doing so, for fear of warranty coverage not being applied or administered.


This is all true above---Cheers.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

This from the AT Pro manual. And there's similar info in Racer manual.

our AT Pro detector is warranted for 24 months, limited
parts and labor, but does not cover damage caused by
alteration, modification, neglect, accident or misuse. Use of
the AT Pro at submerged depths exceeding 3 meters will void
this warranty

 

[MD-Mainiac]

lololololol

What are you lol'ing about? Which part?
Though now, I will admit, the ATPro goes deeper then the BHP

But if you are laughing at the BHP, don't, try it first. It is a very capable machine, easily matches the ACE350.