Nokta Makro Legend feedback, use, comparisons, etc

[Diga]

Well, I'll just go with Jeff . Anyway, thank you again Jeff. I look forward to your replies, because I know you provide unbiased and honest opinions, when it comes to either the Legend, the Nox, or the D2. I especially like the fact that you explain the good things about each of those detectors, instead of just trying to contrive testd
to make a particular detector look bad

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Well, I'll just go with Jeff . Anyway, thank you again Jeff. I look forward to your replies, because I know you provide unbiased and honest opinions, when it comes to either the Legend, the Nox, or the D2. I especially like the fact that you explain the good things about each of those detectors, instead of just trying to contrive testd
to make a particular detector look bad

Contrive test to make detector model look bad?..
You better go look at last video I posted above.
Guess which one is performing the best with the nickel and foil?
The LEGEND !!!!
As long as I am in multi Beach Wet.
Case closed.
So much for bias. I made the Nox look worse actually. No Indidn’t make it look worse, It actually was. The number 13 (actual Solo nickel ID) never showed itself with Nox. Number 26 (actual solo nickel ID) did show itself with Legend.

 

[Diga]

Tnns,


List the things that you like about the Legend. Try not to have an aneurysm while doing that buddy

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Tnns,


List the things that you like about the Legend. Try not to have an aneurysm while doing that buddy

Like 6” coil.
Like beach wet using around modern trash.
Like battery life.

That took all of 15 seconds.

 

[Diga]

What about the exceptional build quality and value for your dollar.. but I digress. Thank you for that. Have you tried hunting with the 6" in bw?

 

[tnsharpshooter]

What about the exceptional build quality and value for your dollar.. but I digress. Thank you for that. Have you tried hunting with the 6-in in bw?

Yes I have used 6” coil in the wild using beach wet.
Fixing to take it to a site.
Run camera and share some info.
Yeah I will be comparing signals using beach wet and Park multi 1-3.
Legend with 6” coil not been in this site yet. Edited - Legend with 6” coil was in this site one time prior. Beach multi wet not used though.
We’ll see what happens. Site does contain clad. Ask me how I know. Lol

 

[Diga]

That's great. Thanks. I'm just about to get out of the car and try BW in an area of wood chips under trees

 

[Diga]

Well David, I detected under those trees for about 30 minutes. From a distance what I thought were wood chips, turned out to be a thin layer of pine needles above bare ground.

I got a bunch of clad and a large and heavy medallion. The outer rim says Houston Texas on it. In the center of it is another smaller medallion with the space shuttle on it. The inner medallion is on a pivot that spins 360 degrees. It's pretty neat. Anyway, here's the good news. I first checked the ground balance. Field and park were ground balancing around 18 to 23 depending on the area. Surprisingly, BW successfully ground balanced at 20. I didn't even know the BW maximum ground balance was 20. BW performed just fine. I kept checking targets between park, field and BW. There was no difference between the ID or depth, so that's all good news. Now it's a matter of that weird unmasking abilities between modes. I'll check that out later tonight along with testing various modes and frequencies on an edged silver dime.

 

[jmaclen]

It is kind of cool that at least three of us were simultaneously hunting with the Legend.

I hit a big soccer field complex that has some of the worst iron mineralization in the Denver area. I only got to detect for an hour or so since my Legend was picking up more EMI for lightening strikes in the area than it was targets.

All of these targets were in the 4" to 8" range, had great IDs and tones except for the zinc pennies (of course) and the copper plated lead hollow point bullet and were no brainer "dig me" signals using the Legend in Park M1, G discrimination pattern, recovery speed 5, iron filter 3, iron stability 3, 6 tones adjusted with tone bins for 1. iron, 2. small foil/aluminum/small gold, 3. US nickels and anything else that wants to get detected between 24 and 26, 4. modern pull tabs, beaver tail ring pulls, larger can slaw, larger gold jewelry, zinc pennies, 5. clad and silver dimes, copper pennies, some silver jewelry, and 6. larger clad like quarters, modern bronze dollar coins, and larger silver coins and jewelry.

Gold ring number 4 with the Legend, registered at 28 both in the ground 4" deep standing vertical and air testing, absolutely beautiful smooth tones.......2.1 grams of 10K so about $51 melt value. That's over $200 in gold jewelry melt value, 7 silver rings, 5 silver dimes, and a little over $400 in clad since I got my Legend back in mid-March all on turf. I think its paid for itself already.....

I did try to ground balance Beach MW at this park.....sounded like a tornado siren so I just moved on.....

 

[Diga]

Well Jeff, that beats my Houston Texas / Space Shuttle medallion lol. At least I was able to ground balance and hunt in BW though!

 

[jmaclen]

I definitely am not out to beat anybody.

I will tell anyone that is willing to listen that the Legend is one heck of a detector for the money.

I spent many years spinning my wheels trying to detect with single frequency VLFs and SMFs that could not detect out here while hoping for some more recent drops to keep my interest in detecting going.

Now I have four legitimate choices in the Equinox, Vanquish, Deus 2 and Legend that really do well here and give me a fighting chance on deeper, hopefully older targets too.

 

[Diga]

I just tried a quarter / foil test. The piece of foil air tests as 20, and the silver quarter at 50. The piece of foil was slightly larger than the quarter.

Foil directly on top of the quarter:

M1-M3 = 23 ID
MW = 39 ID
4 khz = 47 ID

Foil and quarter touching side by side:

M1-M3 = 20 ID each direction
MW = 38 ID each direction
4 khz = 47 ID each direction

All audio was definitely a "dig me" in each scenario, and when the foil and quarter were side by side and touching, each could be isolated for the 100% accurate ID.

So, MW hit an in field home run with this test, but 5 khz knocked it right out of the park and into the next county

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Guess ole sharpshooter’s test are full of it, right?
WRONG !!!
Here’s video of live digs.
Enjoy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N7SGdRhr9i0

 

[Diga]

Jeff,

On your hunt today, I wonder what would have happened if you tried to manually ground balancing to either 0 or 20 in MW?

 

[Diga]

David,

On my hunt today while testing MW, I was cherry picking coins by notching out 1-39, and 58-60. In other words, it wasn't an unmasking test. All my test proved, was that for a single target with no other target in the detection field, then all the SMF modes (including MW) showed about the same ID.

With that said, as you know, I did the foil/ quarter test and confirmed your results. So, it seems the issue in question only occurs on masked targets.

The most surprising thing to me, wasn't even how impressive MW was in the foil test. The most impressive thing to me, was that 4 khz was even better than MW in the test.

Now to figure out what Jeff experienced ???

 

[jmaclen]

Jeff,

On your hunt today, I wonder what would have happened if you tried to manually ground balancing to either 0 or 20 in MW?

I am looking for gold jewelry when I am out using the Legend. The absolute last thing I want to do is to hunt in Beach MW or 5 kHz.

Also, the ground I was hunting on ground balances at 7 but also maxes out the Fe304 side of the mineralization meter. Beach MW will not properly ground balance on that dirt due to the extremely high iron content.

 

[Diga]

I am looking for gold jewelry when I am out using the Legend. The absolute last thing I want to do is to hunt in Beach MW or 5 kHz.

Ah yes. Good point!

I need to unmask coins in heavy nails. The absolute last thing I want to do is hunt in SF mode in which I can't lower the high iron bias preset

 

[jmaclen]

Guess ole sharpshooter’s test are full of it, right?
WRONG !!!
Here’s video of live digs.
Enjoy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N7SGdRhr9i0

That was a really good video.

That dirt looks as dry and crumbly as the dirt out here in eastern Colorado. We are supposed to get a short break from the extreme heat and lack of rain tomorrow.......please!

I have to really zero in on targets and swing really flat with the Legend to get the most accurate target ID sometimes especially on deeper targets and targets that are closely packed. Just like you I usually use the Legend's onboard pinpoint function to pinpoint the targets with more varied target IDs very carefully and watch for the proximity meter to fill up. I check the target ID again afterwards and sometimes it has a more stable target ID in the exact spot where the meter filled up. I really wish the Legend didn't have such varied target IDs and that I didn't need to do that extra onboard pinpointing step most of the time in order to get the most accurate target ID.
But, its a sub $700 detector...........and zinc pennies often have a wider target ID spread out here whether I am using Deus 2, Equinox or Legend. Sometimes it is 10 target IDs or more. I don't think its up averaging as much as the instability and fragility of the zinc core and how much of the thin copper coating is gone along with 2 different frequencies or more trying to figure out what the heck is under the coil. Who knows.

That copper plated lead hollow point .45 caliber bullet in the photo above also had very jumpy target IDs maybe from the difference in conductivity of the lead and copper and it was 8" deep........

 

[woodbutcher]

Took my Legend,went across the road tonight. 3rd target was deep,bouncing from 40s to 50s,,and getting that silver squeal in there,that real high tone..Dug down the 7 inches of the shovels length,still in the hole..pulled out another big shovel full and it was in the dirt,,my first holed coin..I dug I think 3 more targets after that and called it a night..1836 dime from what I can tell...I’m loving this 6 inch coil,and the legend in general..sorry for the bad in field shot,there was no lighting around me so I used the pinpointer for light to take the pic..

 

[tnsharpshooter]

I highly suspect if coin reads higher using multi park1 vs multi beach wet, means coin moreso on edge. I will naturally dig any higher conductive range target where multi park 1 reads somewhat higher than multi beach wet as this would suggest no masking generally.