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Clash of the Titans

If you can could you allso run the V on the deep silver program. I think you may get a better VDI ( not jumping around as much). I have used the C&J program but was unhappy with the results and have move to all metal pro for my parks and school program. I will allso run the deep silver in known silver areas and I can't say anything bad at all about it.
Thanks!!! and Goodluck!!!
 
Why would you run the E-Trac in Auto sens? You lose depth in Auto, at least my E-Trac does. I can find a deep coin in manual sensitivity and lose it when I switch to Auto even +3. With my Spectra, I can run the disc sensitivity up to at least 90 with no problem at most sites I hunt. It seems to make a difference in the depth the Sprecta gets. Now I live and hunt in a rural area without much problems with electrical interference. The Spectra seems to be more prone to suffer from electrical interference than the E-Trac. I've found a few places where the Spectra is almost unusable and the E-Trac hunts with no problem. Thanks for taking the time to do these tests though. I considered doing something similar but it was too big a pain carrying around 2 detectors.:lol: Looking forward to reading more about your "battle of the Titans".
 
Why would you run the E-Trac in Auto sens?
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I want to keep everything as basic as possible. Once I start playing with the adjustments, you never can tell if one is doing better because of the changes or not. I do switch between auto and manual(sens at 29) to check signals on my normal hunts.

I got back to the park today but only had time for a short hunt before too many curious people made me pack it up. I did manage 2 more deep wheats before I left, and managed to get one on video. I still had some problems with my video system.



I did get in some leisure hunting just to break the routine. I hit a tot lot and pulled a bit of gold and some odd stuff. I put away all my high-tech gadget detectors and opted for a relaxing hunt with the Silver uMax.

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Impressive the way they both locked on at 10 plus inches. Guess you can't go wrong with either machine. Your tot lots sure do treat you well. :wow: Thanks and congrats!
 
randy said:
According to the manual, you should be able to get speaker sound by turning the wireless headphones off manually. It may take 5-10 seconds for this to happen (I don't have the wireless headphones, so I can't test this myself, but I get speaker sound depending on whether I plug wired headphones in).
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Manually shutting off the head phones (pressing button on head phones) only reverts the V to the built in speaker IF the speaker is enabled through the menu.

Press Menu/Tab to bring up the 6 block menu, toggle to audio, hit enter, scroll down to "wireless headohone" (wireless headphone is not seen until you scroll down-it's lower in that page) until highlighted, push menu, now scroll down again until you see speaker (again lower in that page) - push enter to X the box. Now flip your pinpoint pinpoint/analyze switch to exit menus back to hunt mode. Your speaker should now work.

With this setting your speaker will now be active anytime your wireless headphones are shut off. I leave my V set this way.
 
Excellent work; I wasn't able to find any comparisons like this when I was shopping. I just started my log; I plan on logging the FE and CO numbers for every find I make in the next few months.
 
Thanks for running these comparisons. I know the V3 is a 'deep seeker' since I pulled a zincoln in my backyard on my initial test at nine inches... and the sound was clear and loud. RickO
 
RickO said:
Thanks for running these comparisons. I know the V3 is a 'deep seeker' since I pulled a zincoln in my backyard on my initial test at nine inches... and the sound was clear and loud. RickO
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That is so wrong!:lol: I would be mad if I dug a zincoln at 9in.:D I don't mind them at a couple inches but at 9in I'm thinking IH. The only thing worse than that is using a screwdriver to pop a shallow zincoln out of the ground and finding a nice IH instead with a large scratch you just made with your screwdriver. Been there, done that!:lol:
 
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I have a question
What machine did you find
the targets with?
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Good question Big John. I use the E-Trac for the first initial hunting and then check it with the V3. Now the reason I'm doing this, first, is that I have a lot more time in on the E-Trac and I know what very deep coins sound like. I wanted to find the very deepest coins the E-Trac could find and see if the V3 can see them. That last coin I dug was very close to as deep as the E-Trac would go as it was breaking up, and the V3 still seen it but broke up as well.

I do plan to lead with the V3 when I'm more familiar with how deep coins sound on it, and then check them with the E-Trac.
 
Next, you'll have to do a comparison of the E-trac and V3 on modified settings....an 'unlimited class' if you will. We can have the foremost V3 authority pm you some settings, and you can email Andy Sabisch for E-trac settings.


For us that don't have a V3....what do the different beep tones mean when you swept the V3 over the penny in that last video? Is the V3 providing more info which is standard when you lock on to a target? I love the V3's color screen, I'm just not sure I'm ready for all that information. Coming from a newbie that has had an E-trac only a week, the Minelab 'squeek' heard in that video tells me to dig....
 
I am using the E-Trac as a learning aid for the V3. I know what good deep coins sound like on the E-Trac so by using it to find the targets and the checking with the V3. This teaches me what a good deep target sounds like on the V3. I will reverse it later and use the V3 to find the targets and the E-Trac to check them.

The V3 plays a different tone for each VDI number. The changing tones would indicate different VDI numbers being displayed. The E-Trac does the same just not as many tones so a varying VDI number isn't as noticeable as on the V3.

Both have a good amount of information being given to the user, but for the deeper stuff most of the information is useless. The E-Trac advertises 1750 target segments/VDI possibilities, but for anything deeper than 4-5", you really only can somewhat trust the CO(conductive) numbers. The FE(ferrous) numbers are pretty useless below 4-5". The same is true with the V3. While the analyze screen is nice on shallow targets, anything below 4-5" and it becomes useless.

What it boils down to is that on the deeper targets the E-Trac gives you 60 Usable VDI/Tones and the V3 gives you 191 Usable VDI/Tones. Which is better is more a matter of personal preference. Both have Pros and Cons.

I'm a long ways from drawing any conclusions. This is just what I've noted so far.

I went back to the park last night for a quick hunt. I did not take the camera because I only had about an hour and it takes a long time just setting things up. John was bound and determined to find some of those oldies with his DFX so he put on the Super 12. He was able to pull a wheat while I was there. I managed 3 wheats and 1 merc. What I found very odd was a signal that read a VDI from CO 32-39 on the E-Trac and 63-67 on the V3. Normally this would be a zinc penny or Indian Head. I was very surprised to pull a mercury dime and a wheat from this signal.

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I had about an hour again after work to do some testing so I took the V3 out to the city park for a spin. Without a doubt using the E-Trac and V3 together has helped me understand the V3 quicker. At least how deep coins should sound. I did quite well back at the same area I have been hunting. My first target was a worn 1925 standing liberty quarter at about 9", then a 1937 wheat at about 10", a button and then a 1931 mercury dime at a good 9-10". All were solid sounding, but had a jumpy VDI. I was still able to tell both silvers even with a jumpy VDI.

I have noticed the V3 does handle deep iron much better than the E-Trac. When I was running them head to head I'd get what sounded and looked to be a good silver target with the E-Trac, but got nothing with the V3. Each time I dug the target it was either rusted nails or bolts very deep. The V3 has proved the ability to pull missed coins from those hard hit sites. This site has been hit very hard and has pretty much stopped producing with the DFX and the SE. Both the E-Trac and the V3 seem to have brought new life back to these sites.

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How would you compare the pinpointing abilities of both machines? I know you have more experience with the Etrac, but I have read several posts that people are having trouble getting targets narrowed down with it.
 
Detector said:
I have noticed the V3 does handle deep iron much better than the E-Trac. When I was running them head to head I'd get what sounded and looked to be a good silver target with the E-Trac, but got nothing with the V3.
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I've been wondering specifically about that while considering an etrac purchase. One night my buddy and I were hunting, he with his SE and me with the V. The V was really new and he called me over to hear a deep coin. His SE sounded great. My V got a scratchy iron signal and I told him no way I would dig it. He guaranteed me it was a coin. I was disapointed my V couldn't hear it until he dug a piece of iron. :lol:

By contrast my brother claims his explorer never hears iron.

I do dig some iron with the V though. It especially likes the tips of nails.


edit: Nice coins detector. I'm unlucky with the SLQ's.
 
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