The Curse Of Oak Island

Ive been watching since episode 1 and will continue to watch. The money pit has been a mystery that has intrigued me for a long time.

speaking to the facts we have tho i have a few strange thoughts:

1. the general location of the holes that have been dug in relation to the ocean could suggest a lack of booby traps and rather just the water table and softness of fill dirt to be the actual culprit that is filling in dig shafts not box drains as suggested. I havent seen even a single person suggest this which i find strange, Im no expert but ive tried to dig holes near ponds/lakes and of course water table levels near large bodies of water are always tricky.

2. There is a sure fire way to solve the mystery that only hte most recent crew could afford. Drill 1 foot diameter holes 175 feet deep and then fill the shafts with cement. continue in a circular unbroken fashion until the circle completes then reinforce with another circle outside that. then you have a 2ft thick cement wall and the inside should be safe to excavate. However from watching the show it seems like their plan is to dig down to the box drain, block it, then dig a massive pit down to the supposed tunnel.

3. I get that the supposed tablet that was found is now lost, in antiquity things go missing all the time, so i accept that. But not one etching of that tablet supposedly exists, just a drawing. Etching was/is a very common practice in such cases and i find it hard to believe that this thing was on display and was never documented properly.

4. how did the guy who excavated the money pit area down to 140 ft not produce massive amount of more document-able evidence. I get that he may have broken stuff up by running over it with a cat but then what did he do? just throw it on the ground? There seems to be pictures of him holding and pointing to objects. why did he not remove and categorize his finds before the eventual reflooding of the site?
 
Interesting show and story, but I'm not holding my breath. If they ever have a major find, it'll hit the news before the TV episode airs.
 
I would like to see a cavern or something, anything, one coin could mean anything. I guess it's wait and see.
 
I would like to see a cavern or something, anything, one coin could mean anything. I guess it's wait and see.

AGREED. i see them digging late 1700s british pennies and think that could be period or even up to mid 1800s. which means basically no evidence one way or another to any theories

however the 1600s spanish coins were a bit odd in my opinion. IIRC that predates the spanish colonial attempts of that region, but i could be very wrong
 
I think this show has one more season after this. You can put off finding things for so long before people get bored and you run out of clues.
 
The thing is, no matter how deep they get, the treasure will always be "a few more feet". No one goes through so much labor to hide treasure, nor do I think it was possible during that era. How did they pump out the ground water during the first dig? Some people claim it's Kidd's treasure, but a portion of Kidd's treasure was found shortly after his capture, buried in NY, and it was fairly easy to find and shallow. Why would he need to bury the 2nd half 200+ feet deep on a deserted island? Some claim it was the Knights Templar, but if anything it would have been much more likely for the Knights to build some sort of stone tomb or structure for the treasure, as that was what they generally did, not dig an unsupported 200 foot hole on an island and drop the items down it. Not many people would bury a valuable treasure in a hole, on an island, that could collapse, or flood at any time. I also recall the original story was based on two teens seeing light on the island sometime in the late 18th century, they assumed a ships crew was on the island burying something, so how do these claims of treasure from the 12th, to the 17th century even come about? The theory is treasure was based on the "discovery of a tackle box, and circular depression". I'm not sure why they would automatically assume treasure, as it could have been used for a variety of reasons, but then again, peoples imaginations sometimes get the best of them. Also there would be more evidence than a tackle box, and small circular depression if 200 foot of dirt was just excavated, not to mention the timber used, etc. I'd love to see a big treasure find, but I don't think it will be found on Oak Island. The whole story basis and time frame automatically excludes any treasure predating the "lights story" such as Kidd's, The Knight's Templar, most Spanish piracy, Etc. as these people were all long go by the "dig that occurred in 1795".
 
The show is entertaining, but bogus! A bunch to do about nothing. As stated, no one dug 150 feet down to hide some artifacts back then.

They will continue to do the show an have cliff hangers, always "that close" to solving the riddle, always "just a few more feet to go"

I watched it and enjoyed it as entertainment, but take it with a grain of salt like any other reality show...
 
I don't know if I believe someone dug that deep to bury treasure but if we believe the stories about what was found in the past, some one did dig the hole. The "treasure" is the purpose for the pit and figuring out what that was.

Cliff
 
I don't know if I believe someone dug that deep to bury treasure but if we believe the stories about what was found in the past, some one did dig the hole. The "treasure" is the purpose for the pit and figuring out what that was.

Cliff

The thing is most of these "find stories" came right around the time the various investment companies were about to go bankrupt. I'd love for the story to be true, but when you look at the facts, it's obviously just not there. The whole legend is based on two teen's seeing lights on the island, and finding an impression and tackle block. How they came to the "treasure" conclusion is beyond me, but I guess at the time, the kid's imagination ran wild, assuming the kids even existed, and the story is true. The supposed year was 1795, which knocks out 99% of the alleged treasure stories, and assuming treasure was buried, it wouldn't have been that deep, and that difficult to get to. Treasure is buried for temporary safe keeping, no one goes to extreme lengths to steal or attain treasure, only to bury it forever. What's to say that the ship was not digging up treasure? Maybe they buried some gold a few feet deep prior to the lights story, and the true story is treasure was not being hidden, but reclaimed. It makes sense, why would you try to hide a treasure with such care, yet leave a tackle block, and impression behind, you would want to leave no evidence that you were there, or any evidence that you dug a hole to hide something. My theory is that if treasure was there, it was reclaimed that night in 1795 by the ship.
 
But do you believe that the things found in the money pit are real? If the story of the wooden timbers at each level is true, someone had a reason to create it. That would not be a natural thing.

Cliff
 
But do you believe that the things found in the money pit are real? If the story of the wooden timbers at each level is true, someone had a reason to create it. That would not be a natural thing.

Cliff

No, I don't believe that. If they dug up dozens of cut logs, where did they put them? Like others have said, how come every piece of evidence has mysteriously gone missing with no outsiders ever seeing them. There's many reasons for pits to be dug, with treasure being the least likely. I'm not sure why it was automatically assumed the pit was for treasure, that is if it was even a man made depression to begin with. Like I said, if it was treasure, it wasn't very well hidden with a tackle block left in the tree, and a visible dirt depression. :D I think it was nothing more than kid's imaginations getting the best of them, assuming the kids even existed.
 
Hoax?

This video provides an excellent review of the history of the money pit on Oak Island, and concludes it is largely a hoax -- a story that has been blown out of proportion by people wanting to believe in the treasure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaIaOesYR2I

It's worth viewing if you are interested in the historicity of the legend.

I'm expressing no opinion either way, so please don't shoot the messenger. :D
 
There are as many videos out there that support the legend as there are those that debunk it. Until someone finds proof of the truth they are all just theories. Everyone just picks the one they believe.

Cliff
 
I have seen it before along with quite a few others. So far no one has convinced me that they are right. I believe in facts and evidence, not opinions. I hope they find some answers no matter what the outcome.

Cliff
 
The thing is most of these "find stories" came right around the time the various investment companies were about to go bankrupt. I'd love for the story to be true, but when you look at the facts, it's obviously just not there. The whole legend is based on two teen's seeing lights on the island, and finding an impression and tackle block. How they came to the "treasure" conclusion is beyond me, but I guess at the time, the kid's imagination ran wild, assuming the kids even existed, and the story is true. The supposed year was 1795, which knocks out 99% of the alleged treasure stories, and assuming treasure was buried, it wouldn't have been that deep, and that difficult to get to. Treasure is buried for temporary safe keeping, no one goes to extreme lengths to steal or attain treasure, only to bury it forever. What's to say that the ship was not digging up treasure? Maybe they buried some gold a few feet deep prior to the lights story, and the true story is treasure was not being hidden, but reclaimed. It makes sense, why would you try to hide a treasure with such care, yet leave a tackle block, and impression behind, you would want to leave no evidence that you were there, or any evidence that you dug a hole to hide something. My theory is that if treasure was there, it was reclaimed that night in 1795 by the ship.

A few things i feel obligated to disagree with

1. the "pit" itself is believed by some to be the entrance to a vault or tunnel, not saying i believe it but it contradicts your idea of digging a hole and tossing in a treasure

2. you say treasure needs to be recoverable, if the Knights of the Templar theory were true, the arc of the covenant (possibly the most dangerous artifact described in antiquity) could be down there. No one wants that thing back im assuming unless you have mal-intent

3. whos to say the ship seen in the 18th century wasnt someone scouting the known location rather than the original burials

4. whats the deal with the arabic coins from the 6th century found 15 miles from oak island? not evidence 100% for but beyond strange to me


im not a 100% believer, i want the facts. But i think its foolish to fully discount it also
 
A few things i feel obligated to disagree with

1. the "pit" itself is believed by some to be the entrance to a vault or tunnel, not saying i believe it but it contradicts your idea of digging a hole and tossing in a treasure

2. you say treasure needs to be recoverable, if the Knights of the Templar theory were true, the arc of the covenant (possibly the most dangerous artifact described in antiquity) could be down there. No one wants that thing back im assuming unless you have mal-intent

3. whos to say the ship seen in the 18th century wasnt someone scouting the known location rather than the original burials

4. whats the deal with the arabic coins from the 6th century found 15 miles from oak island? not evidence 100% for but beyond strange to me


im not a 100% believer, i want the facts. But i think its foolish to fully discount it also

If it is an entrance, it's not a very good one, there are many easier, and better ways to hide treasure. The Templar's for example liked to work with stone, not dirt and wood. If a cavern was dug 200 foot down, where is all the dirt that would have been excavated. If someone had the Ark, and wanted to hide it forever, it would be easier to drop it into the depths of the mid Atlantic.

As far as the ship, if the story is true, which it most likely is not, the ship was just a passing ship, or maybe even a small fishing boat, to assume out of nowhere that it's a ship looking for or hiding treasure is more than just far fetched. If anything it was a few kids with wild imagination. I dreamed of pirate treasure as well when I first started detecting in my teens.

Considering the coin, we find coins here in the states from centuries, even millennia ago, people carry old coins for luck, souvenirs, or collections, they sometimes get lost along the way in strange places, far from home. I've seen Roman coins found in the Midwest.

Most of the stories that the treasure is based on are more than likely just tales themselves. I love treasure stories, and I love when treasure is found, but researching this, it's obvious to me that it's a hoax, a long with all supposed "evidence" that mysteriously vanished.
 
If you watch "Treasureforce" on youtube? Now that they are involved and start adding their conspiracy theories, they'll milk the show for three more seasons. If I hear about William Shakespeare one more time I'm gonna snap.I just wonder when they find and open the ark of the covenant if it kills all three people watching the show in season 27:?::laughing:
 
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