Surf Master
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Woodbutcher
Garrett makes a good carott , happy hunting
Garrett makes a good carott , happy hunting
Whats the deal with all the minelab equinox's
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Gauntlet
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Those were another release I got a kick out of. They were produced with faulty parts, yet Garrett convinced new owners to pay for "upgrades".
graybeard
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For the first 6 months after the release of the Equinox, how many people actually had them?.....very few.
The number of threads viewed don't say how many detectors were bought.
graybeard
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All machines still sell until hey are discontinued , the only reason the ATpro did so well , it was a good fresh water waterproof machine, other tan that, the tones , and Display screen sucked , it was top dog in that range until the EQ 600 landed , now like other manufacturer's , they will have to come up with a new beast, otherwise take a beating
With the tones on the AT PRO you can tell what the coil was swept over.
The tones on the Equinox are not good.
The best way to tell the nickel from the beaver tail pull tab on the Equinox 800 is 40 KHZ and 50 tones otherwise they sound the same, with the same numbers.
Looks like the interest was extremely high.
Loads of Nox have already been sold worldwide.
Let's face it.
Nox has a more universal over all application to detecting vs At Series detectors.
Hence they will sell loads.
So, there is no connection between numbers of units sold or will be sold based on Internet forum interest?
I think there is.
Maybe if some sponsors would chime in. And tell us when their phones ring, what folks are asking about and buying.
I think I know.
Surf Master
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Gb
Hunted the beach yesturday, i can tell you that, out of 4 nickels , 5 dimes, 4 quarters, 10 pennies, 4 sinkers, pair of sun glasses, from the tones , and numbers i new what every target was except the glasses , and sinkers, the tone pitch is all i didnt like and small ID screen on the only time i tested an Atpro, i hope the At Max is better 4 you Garrett guys, as tests have proved it doesn't even come close to the Nox, 1st impression only with an Atpro , those two things turned me off, and had the option to by it from him for 350, after 5 minutes i handed it back to him, happy hunting, Earl
Hunted the beach yesturday, i can tell you that, out of 4 nickels , 5 dimes, 4 quarters, 10 pennies, 4 sinkers, pair of sun glasses, from the tones , and numbers i new what every target was except the glasses , and sinkers, the tone pitch is all i didnt like and small ID screen on the only time i tested an Atpro, i hope the At Max is better 4 you Garrett guys, as tests have proved it doesn't even come close to the Nox, 1st impression only with an Atpro , those two things turned me off, and had the option to by it from him for 350, after 5 minutes i handed it back to him, happy hunting, Earl
woodbutcher
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Earl,what did the tests prove that made you believe the equinox is better than a at pro? I mean,they both detect metal,one has been a proven performer and one is still in the early stage of release.Kinda hard to make a educated guess so early on the equinox,especially if it’s based on a video or nailtest.Proofs in the pudding,head on over to findmall and look at the decade old Garrett at series forum.Full of gold and silver on every page.While your there,skip over to the equinox forum,75 percent of its preorder hype,and a few newer pages with a few posts of mediocre finds.Not enough there to say it’s a better hunter,or maybe I should say a better finder?
Surf Master
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Wood
What has Garrett put out that puts it 1st. , nothing just like the GTI 2500 , no high end machines , Like it or not ML is in front, were other manufacturers are strugling to keep up , the only reason the Atpro was sucessful at sales because it WAS the only waterproof mid range for both land and water, now the 600 will put it to rest, bottom line bro., its been out guned , best regards ., happy hunting.
What has Garrett put out that puts it 1st. , nothing just like the GTI 2500 , no high end machines , Like it or not ML is in front, were other manufacturers are strugling to keep up , the only reason the Atpro was sucessful at sales because it WAS the only waterproof mid range for both land and water, now the 600 will put it to rest, bottom line bro., its been out guned , best regards ., happy hunting.
woodbutcher
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I like the equinox Earl,didn't at first but I do now that I know what to expect,and not expect.Ive always liked the at pro,for the same reasons, knowing what to expect,and not expect.
Can't say I agree one is better than the other, different yes but they're both equally good.
Can't say I agree one is better than the other, different yes but they're both equally good.
Surf Master
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No beef here wood
Never got the chance to know any Garrett machines, my 1st impression , tones , id screen was to small, my 1st machine was a Whites in 1976, than Fishers, Whites, Minelabs, now Deus, all 4 manufactures are still in my line up, who knows maybe one day Garrett will break out a new beast, until than, i my opinion ML is on top , this can be good, now we will see all the other manufacturers step up, anti up, or fold. Lets Deal
Never got the chance to know any Garrett machines, my 1st impression , tones , id screen was to small, my 1st machine was a Whites in 1976, than Fishers, Whites, Minelabs, now Deus, all 4 manufactures are still in my line up, who knows maybe one day Garrett will break out a new beast, until than, i my opinion ML is on top , this can be good, now we will see all the other manufacturers step up, anti up, or fold. Lets Deal
ghound
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Head over to a few UK based FB groups or forums and you'll see the Nox gold finds.
Just remember, the AT series has had years of a head start, the Nox a few months, so your not being fair in your comparison.
If you think the AT Pro holds up against the Nox, that's fine and that's your judgement call. From testing the Nox the past month on live targets vs Deus with black 11" coil, i can tell you the Nox is seeing more targets that the Deus, and we know how good the Deus is vs the AT Pro
Just remember, the AT series has had years of a head start, the Nox a few months, so your not being fair in your comparison.
If you think the AT Pro holds up against the Nox, that's fine and that's your judgement call. From testing the Nox the past month on live targets vs Deus with black 11" coil, i can tell you the Nox is seeing more targets that the Deus, and we know how good the Deus is vs the AT Pro
Head over to a few UK based FB groups or forums and you'll see the Nox gold finds.
Just remember, the AT series has had years of a head start, the Nox a few months, so your not being fair in your comparison.
If you think the AT Pro holds up against the Nox, that's fine and that's your judgement call. From testing the Nox the past month on live targets vs Deus with black 11" coil, i can tell you the Nox is seeing more targets that the Deus, and we know how good the Deus is vs the AT Pro
True can be said of 'other ' brand machines?
There is 'seeing' targets which is not the same as recovering desired targets?
Just to put the above into context try using a PI machine on a UK field and see just how many targets you will see/hear?
ghound
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Yes it is seeing desirable targets (desirable to me) that the Deus LF coils either cannot see/or is giving such a poor response on in comparison, that's what i'm finding in my soil, very thin silver, small buttons, lead, hammered on edge, etc (and it's share of junk non-ferrous) many of these items at funky angles in ground.
It certainly seems to be able to see through my soil better, i can fill the mineral scale on the Deus on some of my fields, it's tough in places, perhaps the new coils coming will do better.
Of course other brands will find gold etc, the point i was making is that the Nox has only been on the fields for a short period in comparison to the AT line, the finds will come with time.
I am in the UK, and have a few hours with a C-scope Pi on my fields, i wouldn't be in a rush to do it again though.
It certainly seems to be able to see through my soil better, i can fill the mineral scale on the Deus on some of my fields, it's tough in places, perhaps the new coils coming will do better.
Of course other brands will find gold etc, the point i was making is that the Nox has only been on the fields for a short period in comparison to the AT line, the finds will come with time.
I am in the UK, and have a few hours with a C-scope Pi on my fields, i wouldn't be in a rush to do it again though.
Head to head on targets in the wild located with Nox, and examined with Deus,, I witnessed the same thing. LF coils both 9 and 11" could not alert on. Soil mineralization levels in the area this happened not super high either. Old town site that where town was moved back in circa 1816. When I examined these targets with Deus using LF coils multiple settings tried. Also Deus HF coils (both) used to examine these targets located with Nox, many times it took the highest band while using them to hear the nonferrous targets. Some targets could not be heard using one of the HF coils (any and all settings tried, and then the other sized HF coil would hear.
One special note hear.
A super high majority of targets located with Nox using mulitfreq, and upon checking using Nox and all single freqs, whenever Nix would not give a signal period using single freqs (all), it was these targets the Deus with LF coils definitely would not signal on period. And HF coils when used to examine, using the lowest band fre wise was ALWAYS a no detect win Deus. And many times super high percentage even using the mid bands freq wise on Deus was a no detect.
This one site and what I witnessed, I think it is safe to say, for relics in this particular soil/site, Nox trumped Deus and LF coil ops for unmasking /separation.
On these specific targets.
I talked about this not long after I obtained my Nox 800 initially.
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=256654
See posts 222,225, and 227 this link.
I think Xp is fully aware of this.
Why
One would be crazy not to think they uaven't tested Nox by now, hence the new X35 coils a coming. These coils should stand a better chance to compete with Nox capabilities.
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So far beach hunting with a Nox in the wet sand can be a true PITA on good ID's. And i have used a lot of different beach machines over the years. Don't ever bet your life an Equinox iron signal is actually iron at the beach or you might need to carry your will with you
woodbutcher
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And already resold worldwide..Intrest was very high for the equinox,no doubt.And I’m not busting any balls here,it’s a decent machine.I actually cancelled my pre order cause it is still a week on new 600 units.Im kinda glad,cause I ended up buying a Etrac,and it will be here tomorrow.Im a coin hunter,and really want the best,Etrac is the best IMO for old deep coins.Equinox is ok,but the Etrac is better, for me anyhow..But with all the used equinox 600s available I just might ad one to the gang if they hit the $400s used range.Like I said,I think it’s a decent machine for jewlery or relics.
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bowwinkles
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There is a giant need for many to just become hobby loyal and "get off" the brand loyalty wagon. When a new very effective piece of equipment becomes available it should be judged on its function and not on its brand name.
graybeard
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There are a lot of people on here that are in a thick fog with tunnel vision and think there is only one detector. They think even if people find great targets with other detectors they could do better if they had the detector they recommend.
They are trying to turn this forum into an Equinox forum because nothing else compares with the Equinox..... and should NOT be listed.
Gauntlet
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