What did I do to myself?

They should rename this board Geriatric Water Detecting :oldguy:


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Seriously Bk, pay attention when scooping (or any similar motion) to not twist/torque your spine. Don't know you're physical condition, but strengthening your abdominal muscles would help.

Hope you get feeling better.
 
Good news. I went to Kaiser urgent care and the Dr says it’s IT band syndrome. My hip and spine are fine (got an X-ray). It’s a muscle thing.

Glad it is not your hip. I get one replaced in august.
 
BTW, I'm 65 :p

Gimme an "OK Boomer"!

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This is the geriatric scoop

I won this stealth scoop back when Scuba Detective ran the pull tab count contest. I miss the guy.

I made it a geriatric scoop.

Lift with your legs, not with your back!
 

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The stealth Extreme is lousy for shaking to see targets (wet or dry). It’s just for get as much and as deep as you can before the next wave fills the hole back up. You get a shoebox full of sand and if really wet it doesn’t want to come out of the hole. Swinging the shaft left and right quickly before pulling helps. The whole wet sand thing isn’t working for me for the last 3 years or more. No people in the water and no big storms to suddenly churn things up. I know what I did wrong and won’t do that anymore!
 
I too suffer from lower back pain, just had an MRI two weeks ago and I have arthritic changes in my lower spine with some sciatica. I bought a back brace at wally world for $16 and it seemed to help a lot the last time I went out. Having an addition of a pull handle on your scoop really helps too. I try to only use my arm muscles only and not bend my back at all.
 
Right, not bending the back is important, that's why this handle makes it feel like I'm picking up a tall suitcase.

I'll be 71 this year, Dirty Harry said a man has got to know his limitations.
 
Putting a handle on my scoop like that would be worse as I would be pulling up non symmetrically on my body and more likely hurt my spine. The way I was pulling was symmetrical. With the scoop full and in the hole I would first swing the shaft left and right and then stand with the hole right in front of me, grasp the shaft end with both hands and lean back, keeping my back straight. The pressure applied itself equally down my spine and into my hips and legs. Best I could do - but stupid! I could have compressed a vertebrae like some of you. Its the weakest link in the chain thing in reverse. What will squish and fail. I didn’t reach that point apparently though. I overstressed muscles that should repair themselves over time. Your mods with the handle would be great for smaller scoops or in the dry. When I started detecting I used a modified green plastic feed shovel. With it you could dig a big section of sand and pull it to shore with much less effort. It only works in the shallow though as waves would hit and empty it. I think there remains potential with a scoop like this. Great when you can scan it and know you have the target.
I’m left kinda wondering what would be best for targets like these. Maybe a deeper but thinner scoop? I went for a scoop with the biggest bite but in some sands it doesn’t want to come out of the hole. I had a smaller scoop earlier and I would be wearing myself out digging as fast as I could as the rapid waves would refill the hole quicker than I could dig it.
Someone needs to invent a battery powered sand dredge-vac! I guess we’d look pretty intimidating carrying such a thing along with a detector.
 
That ground suction effect in the wet sand is the problem.
A scoop of wet sand weighs about 15 pounds.
When the scoop is buried and full, the ground suction effect is about 3X or 4X that 15 lbs.
So you might need 60 lbs of pull to break the suction.

With the handles I rock the scoop back on its heel first and feel the suction release than pull back again on the assist handle and lift it.

It's a little bit of a dance step but I can control it with one hand.

Kind of hard to explain but I think you know what I mean.

Good luck.

A friend of mine who is a very experienced detectorist bought the 920 Stealth which is a bit wider than my 720. I told him it was a mistake because he is very good at pinpointing a target and he is just lifting a lot more sand than he needs to. He likes the insurance it gives him in deep water but everyone has their own approach.
 
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