Unusual cartridge casing found.

[Barneymartin3]

Found this unusual cartridge casing in a known Civil War skirmish site. It is .462 diameter and .845 in length. Has a firing pin strike on the edge beside a blown-out centrally located hole. While cleaning it, a round object with a short point fell out of it. No markings to be found. Any ideas what type of cartridge this is?

 

[hoser]

Sorry no clue here.

 

[Barneymartin3]

Sorry no clue here.

This one is a mystery.

 

[hoser]

I'll second that. I'm not very in tune with CW ammo. Could this be a piece of a pin fire cartridge?

 

[Barneymartin3]

I'll second that. I'm not very in tune with CW ammo. Could this be a piece of a pin fire cartridge?

I just had a guy tell me it could be a rare Lipfire cartridge. Need to research this for sure.

 

[hoser]

Lipfire! Ok now that is a new one for this old relic. Well done. Look forward to further info on this.

 

[Wolf-Dog]

It looks like it could be a .44 Allen Lipfire, although I'm not very familiar with that cartridge. Could you please post a pic showing the full side view of it?

As for the thing that fell out, to me, it looks like a clump of dirt that formed to the inside of the holes. What material does it seem to be?