The FBI Files: Dents Run Civil War Gold

[GoDeep]

Thats the mastery of any good con: distraction. He's got his followers debating whether the stories are true or not. If one story doesn't fit, or is proven wrong or the evidence changes, he just moves the goal posts and throws out another story. So far to explain it, he's used the Stolen Civil War Gold Legend, The Spanish, KGC and even Indians and it's came by way of foot, wagon, train and ship!

But it's irrelevant if the legends are true or not. The fact is there is nothing evidentiary tying the dents run site to any legends, wars, thefts, mobs or recluses. The only circumstantial evidence we've ever had is ground scans. Not one ounce of gold has been shown to have been removed from Dents Run, let alone tested to determine its origin. One needs to first establish gold was actually removed from the site, then one can go about having it tested to determine its provenance. Plaintiff conveniently likes to skip that step and get people talking about where it came from to distract from the fact that he's failed to prove any gold was removed from the site.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

.... Not one ounce of gold has been shown to have been removed from Dents Run,....

Well gee, that just goes to show you how CLEVER and thorough the FBI was in covering their tracks ! Get with the show Go-Deep !

.... Plaintiff conveniently likes to skip that step and get people talking about where it came from ....

It's as if he *starts* with the default premise that : There was or is gold there. And then NOTHING can dissuade him from that starting premise. If the facts don't point that way, then .... he trots off to another story. Essentially making his claims unfalsifiable. He just keeps morphing the story to fit new data that contradicts his claims.

It's either that, or he already knows it's not true. And now this is : Plain and simple dishonesty.

 

[GoDeep]

Finders Keepers USA LLC v. U.S. Department of Justice Update:


09/26/2022 MINUTE ORDER. The parties shall file an additional Joint Status Report by October 28, 2022, which updates the court on the processing and production of responsive information. Defendant shall endeavor in good faith to produce the 35 high-resolution photographs requested by Plaintiff by October 26, 2022. Signed by Judge Amit P. Mehta on 9/26/2022. (lcapm1) (Text entry; no document attached.)

 

[SS_Wonder]

More waste of tax payer dollars.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

.... to produce the 35 high-resolution photographs requested by Plaintiff ....

And no matter what they show or don't show : Dennis-&-gang will not stop screaming "treasure".

More waste of tax payer dollars.

Yup. There's your tax-payer dollars hard at work. Satisfying nuts like this with bureaucratic expenses.

 

[GoDeep]

Further documented incidents of possible false statements by Plaintiff:

On 10/9/18, Plaintiff was specifically asked: "you have no pictures of all that gold?"

Reply, "Oh not so fast....WE HAVE PICTURES"

Note how he doesn't specifically say "gold". This is a big "tell" and intentional as he knows they don't have pictures of actual gold, so he carefully words it to make you believe he has pictures of gold without having to say the word gold. His message is clear: he is purposely and intentionally misleading the readers into believing he has pictures of gold as the question was specifically about gold. It wasn't a question asking him if he had general pictures of the site or pictures of junk iron coming out of the ground, as we already knew he had general pictures of the site as he'd said he had on many occasions previously.

 

[GoDeep]

Just as an added observation to the above. I've noticed the above type of dishonesty is Plaintiffs most used tactic. He'll be asked pointed questions that are clear and concise, for example, "do you have pictures of gold coming out of the hole", and he'll respond with an answer that makes you believe in the affirmative, "Yes, we have pictures", but he'll omit key words (in this case, "gold", a key "lie of omission"). I believe he does this to give himself an out and assuage his conscience. He knows they don't have pictures of gold, so he'll make you believe he does, but if called on it, in his mind, he can just say "well, i didn't specifically say gold so i wasn't lying, what i meant was we have pictures of iron coming out". But this technicality makes it no less a lie as the intent of his post was to purposely mislead you.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

......

On 10/9/18, Plaintiff was specifically asked: "you have no pictures of all that gold?"

Reply, "Oh not so fast....WE HAVE PICTURES"

Note how he doesn't specifically say "gold".....

No. This isn't a lie. Because you have to remember the plaintiff's word definitions and starting default premise : Since the definition of "found" is to have a supposed location of treasure. And the definition of "gold" can be "stolen" gold. Then : There's no dishonesty whatsoever.

In other words : To have pictures of trees, trails, roads, rocks, etc.... IS THE PICTURES OF STOLEN GOLD. I mean, shucks, you don't see any gold there, do you ? So that's ALL THE MORE PROOF of gold (albeit stolen).

Ok ? Get with the show go-Deep !

 

[GoDeep]

For those new to this thread (I've recently reached out to multiple people and shared this thread), I believe it bears repeating that several months ago, Plaintiff brought two major motions against the DOJ: One motion was to compel the lead FBI agent in charge, Jake Archer, as well as the videographer of the site, to sit for questioning under sworn oath (deposition). The other motion was for sanctions (attorney's fees) for the DOJ's alleged "bad faith" efforts in producing the record.

The motion to compel sworn testimony was the holy grail of discovery. It would have allowed Plaintiff to question, under penalty of perjury, the lead FBI Agent in charge of the Dents run dig. If this motion failed, it would be highly unlikely they would ever get the opportunity to do so again. It was all hands on deck to provide the evidence necessary to show that the FBI was hiding, forging and concealing evidence and had found gold (of which Plaintiff had publicly accused the DOJ/FBI of doing on the forums). Plaintiff time and again said he had "proof" of this.

But when it actually came down to putting up this evidence, his motion included no evidence that the FBI had forged or deleted evidence or found any gold. In the end, his motion was nothing but accusations. This was not calculated or a mistake, they simply didn't have any evidence, only beliefs and accusations.

Despite Plaintiff publicly boasting that "he can't lose this case", on 8/15/22, The Judge Denied both of Plaintiffs motions dealing him a major defeat. It's also noteworthy that as of today 9/27/22, Plaintiff has still not advised his followers on his Facebook group of this defeat.

Order denying both of Plaintiffs motions:

 

[Tom_in_CA]

.... no evidence that the FBI had forged or deleted evidence or found any gold. ...

This post only shows 2 things :

1) That the FBI did a very good job at concealing their nefarious theft of the gold. Pretty clever of the FBI to cover their tracks that good, right ? And ....

2) That the judge is also in on the conspiracy. That's why he's denying their demands : It's clear that the judge is conspiring alongside the FBI.

Tsk tsk

 

[GoDeep]

This post only shows 2 things :

1) That the FBI did a very good job at concealing their nefarious theft of the gold. Pretty clever of the FBI to cover their tracks that good, right ? And ....

2) That the judge is also in on the conspiracy. That's why he's denying their demands : It's clear that the judge is conspiring alongside the FBI.

Tsk tsk

Careful Tom, some probably don't recognize sarcasm...lol!

I will say though, he did accuse them of covering their tracks and that he had "Proof" of that. So the point isn't whether it is some big coverup, it's that he said he has proof/evidence of the coverup. As it turns out, and his motion demonstrates, that was not true.

And yes, i fully expect as this case wraps up, the goal posts will move to accusing the judge of being in on the "coverup".

 

[Tom_in_CA]

.... As it turns out, and his motion demonstrates, that was not true......

No, that's not what his "motion demonstrates". The motion demonstrates that the corruption is merely multi-level deep. So now, not only are all those LEO guys good at doing a coverup (not slipping to friends or relatives), but : So too is the justice judicial people also in on the conspiracy.

That's what your research and posts "demonstrate". Tsk tsk.

....i fully expect as this case wraps up, the goal posts will move to accusing the judge of being in on the "coverup".

Yup.

Just like Oak Island, it is NEVER that a "fabulous treasure" isn't, or wasn't there. It's always : 1) A little deeper. 2) A little more to the right or to the left, 3) It was dug up in the past (yet rest assured a fabulous treasure was there), 4) It was stolen right from under our noses.

But under NO CIRCUMSTANCES is the explanation *ever* that: There simply wasn't or isn't a treasure there. That option is simply not in the running. Tsk tsk.

 

[GoDeep]

Further documented incidents of possible false statements by Plaintiff:

In this example, we actually have an early case of honesty, that in later years morphs into dishonesty:

In a rare moment of clarity found in much earlier postings of Plaintiff, we find that Plaintiff on 12/19/15 ADMITS he doesn't know/can't prove where the alleged gold came from. (Notwithstanding if it even exists). Evidently, years later he forgot that he posted this and contradicts himself, as he starts posting he does know/can prove where it came from and even begins championing legends as proof of where the alleged gold came from.

This admission renders all the BS stories about Civil War Gold, KGC, Spanish etc just pure and simple speculative distractions and irrelevant if they are true or not. You can't know where it came from unless we establish it's there by digging it up and having it examined to determine its provenance, something we find in older postings Plaintiff actually agrees with.

 

[GoDeep]

And the cover up continues with Plaintiff over on his Facebook group! Some of them questioned his facts and were banned and their posts deleted and links to this thread were deleted. Further proof Plaintiff doesn't believe his "facts" of the case will stand on their own and he clearly doesn't trust his members to think for themselves.

 

[SeabeeRon]

This is an interesting post on his FB page, wonder how long it will last?!?

Scott Grunthaner
now parada gets involved and the hole story went from no evidence or clues and suddenly out of the blue parada has a map and knows this has been going on for over 4 yrs and there was multiple wagons filled with gold. funny all these clues, maps etc. were held by someone all these years that showed right were the gold was but yet no one dug it up and instead just handed it over to parada to dig up for himself. yeah okay. its no wonder the courts sealed the records. look how crazy you all believing all this. and thinking the feds found gold. all this did was caused the public to get involved and now comes the conspiracy theories and the people that only want to believe and hear what they want.

 

[GoDeep]

This is an interesting post on his FB page, wonder how long it will last?!?

Yeah, he deleted several posts last night of other members there, i wonder if he missed that one? He actually brings up a topic i've been meaning to talk about, the alleged "map". I have evidence on that too i'll share, hopefully tonight after I get some work done today.

Edit: Also Ron, couldn't it be said that him deleteing others posts, posts that simply bring up facts counter to his beliefs is a form of dishonesty as it's trying to coverup the truth and i think most would agree that a "coverup" is a form of dishonesty?

 

[Tom_in_CA]

... Some of them questioned his facts and were banned .....

HHhhhmmmm, that sounds eerily familiar with another place as well

 

[GoDeep]

15. How was the Dent's Run site discovered: map, psychic, random chance?

There's been a lot of confusion, and for good reason:

1. Plaintiff claims on his website it was discovered via Map:



2. While in the Atlantic Article he claims it was found via Psychic:



As it turns out, the "Map" was nothing more than a modern hand sketched map, drawn by good old Malley the Psychic himself not long after he did the psychic reading:

From the Youtube video "The Dents Run Story Part 1" starting at 24:30 Dennis says quote, "He said (the Psychic), give me pencil and paper, i want to draw something for you. So i had the stuff and pulled it out and he drew a Map real fast...but then he drew a big V shape on a big blank sheet of paper and on the top left of the V he drew a circle, like a formation, and then over here he drew where there was supposed to be a cave...and if you look off to the left...you'll see a hole in the mountain..and from there, i think it was 23 degrees, there's a cave opening..."

Conclusion: The Map originated from the Psychic himself, therefore, the site was found via the Psychic's reading and map. But in reality, psychics can't find gold, its why no gold was recovered from Dents Run. In reality, the site was found by a con man psychic RANDOMLY pinning the tail on the donkey.

Plaintiff describing the "Map" the psychic had drawn him:

 

[Tom_in_CA]

oh gee, now that I know a psychic was involved : That makes the story all-the-more credible . I'm convinced now !

 

[Cfmct]

All you guys involved in this thread have wasted so much time and energy that could have been spent doing other things...

There was no gold there... the guy is pulling your chain just like the brothers on Oak Island....

It amazes how easy it is to hook people into believing BS....