Captmo47
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I’m headed to st. Augustine first week of April. I’ve never detected there. Any tips, tricks, advice would be greatly appreciated.
You say : a lot of places to get into trouble. ...
No, I read the local laws. Kinda like I hope you do in Ka. But I do know one who is in that area.
Hard to follow that one up. I wish you lots of luck next week.I’m headed to st. Augustine first week of April. I’ve never detected there. Any tips, tricks, advice would be greatly appreciated.
Hey don't worry about it, looks like Tom has your legal fees covered If you run into any trouble..I’m headed to st. Augustine first week of April. I’ve never detected there. Any tips, tricks, advice would be greatly appreciated.
Tom, here in Michigan newbies will ask on Facebook if detecting our Great Lakes state park beaches is permitted.Hey there DJW : Nice job with ad hominems. Now if you want to return to a discussion on "imminent doom that awaits md'rs in the lots-of-places", that's fine. But ad hominems are not discussions.
Re.: Your post # 4 :
I get so tired of this notion casually tossed out there that everyone is just waiting to bust-our-chops. And that anti-md'ing (and I quote) : "trouble" looms everywhere. As if tickets, arrests, jail, confiscations, etc... Loom . And when you ask persons, who make this statement "Got any examples ?" they typically have none. It's always something they heard from someone , who heard from someone, who heard from someone, etc... But examples are never forthcoming.
Or if they CAN fish up any examples, of someone who had any actual trouble, it is invariably someone who can't take a warning, or someone sneaking obvious off-limits historic monument. Or someone who could have looked up potential laws/rules for themselves. And sure, if there WERE a law or rule (that SPECIFICALLY says it), then SURE , don't detect.
But that doesn't tend to be the way #4 gets translated and implemented :
Here's what people tend to do with it : They will show up on bureaucrats' doorsteps (kiosks, sending emails, making calls, etc...) asking "Can I ?" And then we all become the victims of the "No one cared UNTIL you asked" phenomenon. Ie.: Presto another law or rule or policy is born.
This issue is only an issue of whether to "knock on doors" or to "look up for ourselves". But what bugged me about #4, is the implication that there's lots of trouble for if you and I don't grovel somewhere. Eg.: Tickets, jail, arrests, confiscations blah blah. Yet as said : Whenever we ask "got any examples", it gets strangely silent.
Hey don't worry about it, looks like Tom has your legal fees covered If you run into any trouble..
Unless you have a high pain tolerance, dodge the Datil peppers. Hot!!!!!I’m headed to st. Augustine first week of April. I’ve never detected there. Any tips, tricks, advice would be greatly appreciated.
Invariably some one will quickly respond NO!
Definitely a place you got real potential for getting in trouble if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time. Wouldn't suggest walking around downtown with a metal detector. Plus you got people digging up St Augustine trying to find the Casque from the book "The secret". Worse problem I had was some guy with a lamp shirt on. "St. Augustine Lighthouse Archaeological Maritime Program" (LAMP) Had just previously helped LAMP mark a few hits with my metal detector around a piece of ship wreck. A couple weeks later some guy with a LAMP shirt on is screaming at my girlfriend. So I go over there with my scoop and he hauls arse. Guy was yelling it's illegal to be on any beach with a metal detector. So we call LAMP and they said we were okay and said to try to get a picture of the guys face and his name. He seems to like to cuss out women since he did the same thing to another friend of mine.Do you know of a "lot of people who got in trouble at lot of places" there in St. Augustine ?
........ and said to try to get a picture of the guys face ....
Yep, John I use that all the time when we are out and about. Keeps you from getting a stiff neck from having to look over your shoulder all the time.The State of Michigan has a website that is just about detecting in state parks.
There is a list of what parks completely disallow detecting. It is perhaps one third of the parks.