Regarding the Lack of Finds on the Beach

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I recently came back to detecting after a few years hiatus and have noticed a lot of posts on the forums about the lack of Gold & Rings found on the beach. I’ve seen some posts saying that the detectorist used to find 70 or so rings in a typical season, but now they’re lucky to get 5 or 6. Lots of others are reporting that they’re only finding junk jewelry, and even that their clad finds are down.

I’ve been thinking about this, comparing my beach hunting several years ago, how it used to be, against how things might be today and came up with several possible reasons why this is happening. I know some of these have probably been mentioned or discussed, but 1 of the reasons I thought of, which I consider to be a BIG reason, I haven’t really seen anyone else mention, so I’ll throw it out to add to the list.

First off, we all know that the price of Gold & Silver, has skyrocketed over the last couple of years. I’m very happy about that, as for the last 3 years, I’ve been converting my 401K funds every year into physical gold & silver, also got my wife to do the same. I got tired of checking my 401K account and seeing red arrows pointing downward, and I just don’t trust the stock market or even the bond market, which I always considered to be a “safe haven” when the stock market was getting weird. I mean, if my investments are volatile or have been going down, then why bother. I could lose my money in a casino just as easily, and have much more fun while losing it, lol.

But IMO, the rise in the price of gold & silver has done a couple of things that can affect metal detecting:
  • I don’t think this is a secret, but I think more & more people are probably keeping their gold and more expensive jewelry in their room safe while they’re out on the beach. I don’t think the general public thought much about this years ago, but there’s been a lot of talk about gold & silver over the last 2 - 3 years, so just about everyone knows that the prices of precious metals have been skyrocketing. And where they may have worn their jewelry out on the beach in the past when the market was “normal” and nobody was talking about it, they’re now realizing their jewelry is much more valuable, and much more expensive to replace. So, I think a greater number of people want to safeguard their good stuff by keeping it in the safe in their rooms. I’ve always done this, I always take my wedding ring off and stash it before heading out to the beach when I detect, because I wear gloves and know it only takes a quick moment of distraction for that ring to come flying off if I pull that glove off without thinking, or when I get my hands wet while working the wet and water. You know what isn’t the only thing that shrinks when hit with cold water, fingers shrink too, lol.

  • Higher prices for gold & silver mean more people buying detectors, to try their luck at finding something valuable. There’s a lot more “competition” out on the beaches these days, but I think most of those detectorists are newbies or are on vacation. I’ve seen some of them detecting without a scoop, a trowel, or some type of tool they can use for digging. They’ll get more dangerous with a few more years’ experience, but you can usually tell beginners by their lack of preparedness and the way they swing their coil. Some of these guys have their coil ½ foot off the sand and are swinging from side to side in a large arc, like they’re swinging a golf club. So, their coil is only over the sand for maybe 1 second before shooting skyward, but even then, it’s a ½ foot above the sand, so there goes their depth. But God bless them, they’re out there trying, but it’s apparent that they’ve never received instruction on how to use a detector, or why it’s important to keep the coil close to the sand to get more depth and to keep the coil at an even height from the sand when swinging using a horizontal arc, not vertical arc, basic detecting stuff. They probably never cracked a beach hunting book or watched some instructional videos on YouTube. Just a few minutes of simple instruction could make them a lot more dangerous, lol. I just smile, give them a nod or a wave when passing by, and keep going. But just like they say that even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then, some of these guys are going to find some stuff, in spite of themselves. In the past, where you might have 1 or 2 other guys out on the beach, maybe there’s now 8 or 10 or 12. Greater numbers of detectorists increase the odds that they’ll find something, which will lower the odds that we’ll find it instead. We’ll have to work to find the deep stuff, but they have a chance at finding the easy, fresh drops, just as much as anyone else, even when swinging their coil like a golf club, lol.
What about coins, clad and such, why the drop?
  • Seems more and more people these days use their credit cards, or their cell phones to make purchases, so the need for cash and/or coinage has decreased with technology. All the parking meters down at the resort areas and beaches in DE, except for the State Parks, take credit cards. Go to main street in Rehoboth, find a parking spot, and you’ll notice that they no longer even take coins or cash, they’ll only accept credit cards. So, the days of me stopping at the bank to get a roll of quarters to feed the parking meters have come to an end. Now, I too use my credit card when I need to park at a metered spot. Well, at least I no longer have to walk around with a couple pounds of quarters in my pocket. So, without the need for people to get those roll of quarters or to have a bunch of change in their pockets, that will reduce the number of potential coins spilling out of their pockets when sitting at the beach.

  • More detectorists (see #2 above). Get a dozen guys out on the beach hitting the dry, and any easy clad that’s lying around and not too deep will be scooped up quickly, even if they’re swinging like a golfer.
But here’s another BIG reason I think is leading to a reduced number of rings & jewelry finds, haven’t really seen this one discussed much, if at all, in the forums.
  • Let’s go back 6, 7, 8 or more years ago. Back then, I didn’t care who was on the beach searching, because I owned the wet & water. There could be a dozen guys wondering around on the dry and it didn’t matter to me one bit. Because I’d just take my Minelab Sovereign Elite down on the wet and even into the water a bit, and I had no competition. Every now and then I’d see a guy swinging an Excalibur in the water or on the wet, I really didn’t run into too many other Sovereign owners. But all the guys working the dry seemed to be using Garrett Ace’s, maybe an AT Pro, I saw Tesoro’s, Bounty Hunters, a few Whites and some other brands. But all the detectors I saw the other guys using were SF detectors just a few years ago. And I had my Sovereign SMF BBS, so I could hunt the dry, wet, water, wherever I wanted to go. But if those guys running their SF detectors tried venturing down onto the wet with me, their detectors would start screaming and chattering like a cat that just had its tail stepped on. They’d last a few seconds, maybe a minute, then it was back up to the dry sand they would go. So, it was usually just me, maybe 1 other guy, hunting the wet and into the water. That’s where I wanted to be to find the heavy stuff. I might work the dry, mainly the towel line, if the tide was high or if I was waiting for the tide to drop. But as soon as it started dropping, I’d start at the top of the wet and work my way down, following the receding tide.

  • But now, it seems that’s all changed and now everyone seems to be swinging high-tech SMF detectors. I just picked up an X-Terra Elite myself to augment my Sovereign. 7 or more years ago, the Sovereign’s and Excalibur’s ruled the wet, as far as VLF’s go, along with a couple White’s, and of course the PI’s. I don’t ever recall running into many hunters running PI’s when I was out on the beach, it was always predominately VLF’s. But now, the surge in lower priced SMF detectors from brands like Minelab, Nokta, XP, and probably some other brands has now brought SMF technology to the masses, at very reasonable and sometimes downright low prices. So, in the past, where I may have been the only guy swinging an SMF detector on the wet and into the water, many more guys are now also swinging waterproof SMF detectors and now have the ability to follow me down to the wet and into the water. So, all the guys with SF detectors can spend their time on the dry, but now a larger number of guys with SMF detectors can venture into what used to be my almost exclusive territory. Now, they also can search anywhere on the beach, just like I’ve enjoyed for over 10+ years with my Sovereigns. They may not have the experience, and that counts, but at least now they have a machine capable of hunting wherever they want, just like me and my Sovereign. Oh, how I miss the old days, lol.
So, if we combine the fact that more and more people are probably safeguarding their good jewelry before hitting the beach, with the decreasing need for people to carry cash or coins in their pockets, along with the fact that there’s now a greater number of detectorists swinging some very high-tech SMF detectors in the dry, wet, or water, that’s going to affect the number of finds that we all make. In other words, less potential good jewelry targets + reduced need for people to carry cash/coins + more detectorists swinging high-tech SMF detectors = less targets potentially for us all to find.

Of course, the great thing about the beach is that I’ve always considered it to be a giant piggy bank. What we don’t find today, we might find tomorrow. Every shift in the tides and every storm has the potential to move sand, making targets appear within reach, or it can also dump sand, moving targets out of reach. But if there’s one thing I’ve learned about beach hunting, is persistence. We all know that the sand can change constantly throughout the day and evening. There’s been many times I’ve gone to the beach and saw large cuts or troughs that formed that weren’t there the day before. So, persistence is very important, gotta be the right person at the right spot at the right time.

And then, there’s a great tip I picked up from Terry Shannon on one of his videos. I’ve had this same idea over the years but never acted on it, always tried to go with what I thought was a “sure thing”. But now that I’ve seen some of his finds using this tip, the next time I’m at the beach, I’m gonna give it a try.

I’m sure I didn’t cover everything, probably missed a few reasons, but these were the ones the popped into my mind as the most logical reasons why finds might be down at beaches we’ve done well at in the past.
 
Other factors:

1) The younger generation sees gold jewelry as "old people" jewelry.

2) For body adornment, tattoos have often replaced jewelry.

3) If the younger generation does wear jewelry. It's typically not gold. Rather, they buy metal and gems that look just as good, but cost far, far less then precious metals and gems.
 
Other factors:

1) The younger generation sees gold jewelry as "old people" jewelry.

2) For body adornment, tattoos have often replaced jewelry.

3) If the younger generation does wear jewelry. It's typically not gold. Rather, they buy metal and gems that look just as good, but cost far, far less then precious metals and gems.
Well, I'm 67 so I guess I'm "old", because I see gold & silver jewelry just as jewelry, lol.

I also have tattoos from my military days, and a few other tattoos I got later in life. One was a tribal to cover the name of a girlfriend I had in the Military. What's that old saying that warns men against getting the name of a woman tattooed on your arm?

But as far as jewelry goes, I'm a less is more kinda guy. I have a gold wedding ring, wife gave that one to me when we got married. I wear an inexpensive digital Timex watch with adjustable Velcro band. It's waterproof and tells time just as good as a Rolex and lights up when it's dark, so I'm good. I also have a cross necklace that my wife gave me several years ago. I don't think it's silver, it looks silverish, but I've never checked for a 925 mark, never felt the need. She got it for me, I love it, so I've been wearing it every day since she got it for me. I had to take it off a couple weeks ago to get an MRI, that was the first time I removed that cross since she bought it for me and placed it around my neck.
 
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OC Md, when I started was fairly good, 2008 .. part time, 2 1/2 drive down hunter I averaged about 25 gold a year and that is with a few weeks vacation during the summer. 2014 and part of 2015, I lived there, my gold ring count stayed about the same "for there" but OC was changing for I put more time in with the same results. I seen the change start at the inlet, and as the years passed.. slowly move up to 12th street, than to 17th. A different class of people. After the summer of 2015 I stopped going for I found gold closer to home base, In the Chesapeake Bay.

I know 6 hunters in OC, 7 including Earl.. its very rare for any of them to find gold. They may average 0 to 3 a year and a few hunt a lot. All wet sanders, to knee deep. More of a variety of machines, Nox's, CZ21s, Excals, and rarely but I have seen a few PI's, Sea Hunter and a couple DF's (2008/2015).. the dry sanders use the cheaper machine and I guess the machine won't allow them near the salt water.

I keep track of several of the Bay hunters in my area, Baltimore /Annapolis. Most don't like to share much information but I do hear enough to know things are a little better. The average gold count around here is 2 to 8 gold a year, and most are part time hunters. A few days a week, maybe 2 to 5 hours a day. I think 90% use Noxs..a couple D2's, few CZ 21's, and rarely Excalibur's. Never PI's.

As far as fresh drops, many factors affect the year end totals and I believe you called all of them. And if the Fed's revalues gold fresh droppers for sure are going to feel the neg effect, gold will be even harder to find.
 
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Quite an uptick in stainless/titanium rings, I have a couple baggies full from just the past few years ,, 10 years ago, they likely would have all been silver or gold. Wedding bands even, people are opting to buy much cheaper metals, they actually do look nice and don't turn your fingers green.
So to me, and I hunt fresh water beaches typically with little competition, its not that people aren't losing rings anymore, they aren't often losing PM rings because they aren't wearing them. Competition is always a factor in finds, and obviously I'm glad theres not much around where I hunt. Main beach I hunt, which doesn't allow detecting but I seem to get away with it, haven't seen a single person detecting, and I go there pretty often.
 
Well, I'm 67 so I guess I'm "old", because I see gold & silver jewelry just as jewelry, lol.

I also have tattoos from my military days, and a few other tattoos I got later in life. One was a tribal to cover the name of a girlfriend I had in the Military. What's that old saying that warns men against getting the name of a woman tattooed on your arm?

But as far as jewelry goes, I'm a less is more kinda guy. I have a gold wedding ring, wife gave that one to me when we got married. I wear an inexpensive digital Timex watch with adjustable Velcro band. It's waterproof and tells time just as good as a Rolex and lights up when it's dark, so I'm good. I also have a cross necklace that my wife gave me several years ago. I don't think it's silver, it looks silverish, but I've never checked for a 925 mark, never felt the need. She got it for me, I love it, so I've been wearing it every day since she got it for me. I had to take it off a couple weeks ago to get an MRI, that was the first time I removed that cross since she bought it for me and placed it around my neck.
Jeff Foxworthy says you might be a redneck if the local tattoo parlor is running a special of your sister's name!
 
OC Md, when I started was fairly good, 2008 .. part time, 2 1/2 drive down hunter I averaged about 25 gold a year and that is with a few weeks vacation during the summer. 2014 and part of 2015, I lived there, my gold ring count stayed about the same "for there" but OC was changing for I put more time in with the same results. I seen the change start at the inlet, and as the years passed.. slowly move up to 12th street, than to 17th. A different class of people. After the summer of 2015 I stopped going for I found gold closer to home base, In the Chesapeake Bay.

I know 6 hunters in OC, 7 including Earl.. its very rare for any of them to find gold. They may average 0 to 3 a year and a few hunt a lot. All wet sanders, to knee deep. More of a variety of machines, Nox's, CZ21s, Excals, and rarely but I have seen a few PI's, Sea Hunter and a couple DF's (2008/2015).. the dry sanders use the cheaper machine and I guess the machine won't allow them near the salt water.

I keep track of several of the Bay hunters in my area, Baltimore /Annapolis. Most don't like to share much information but I do hear enough to know things are a little better. The average gold count around here is 2 to 8 gold a year, and most are part time hunters. A few days a week, maybe 2 to 5 hours a day. I think 90% use Noxs..a couple D2's, few CZ 21's, and rarely Excalibur's. Never PI's.

As far as fresh drops, many factors affect the year end totals and I believe you called all of them. And if the Fed's revalues gold fresh droppers for sure are going to feel the neg effect, gold will be even harder to find.
The wife and I used to have a 2nd house down near Rehoboth. It was a small house, but we loved it and called it our "vacation estate", lol. But we'd go down there every weekend for over 10 years, and always spent a week vacation there, lots of family would come down. I'd venture down to OC here and there, but mainly hunted the beaches in DE, since it was closer to home base.

Haven't hunted much in the Chesapeake Bay, but I pretty much grew up there, my dad was in the Coast Guard reserves and we always had a boat. He also previously had a 2nd house down on Tilghman Island and we'd go down there & St. Michael's often. I remember many years ago there were these 2 guys who hunted old, forgotten swimming areas in the Chesapeake Bay. I have one of their books but can't remember their names. They had a boat and would travel the Chesapeake to hit those long forgotten swimming areas. They found a ton of rings using a PI, and I remember they had one of the early beach sand scoops, had a large U-Shaped handle.

BTW OBN, I remember you on the forums years ago. I was on this forum and a couple others about 8 - 10 years ago, and there was a guy named CritterHunter. I think that was his name. He swung a Sovereign GT and did a lot of land hunting, seemed to find a lot of very deep dimes, lol. Do you remember or ever run into him?
 
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It's usually not about new coins and fresh drops that are exciting to find, but rather those green coins that lead to even more finds on the beach. I once found a green coin and circled it to find nothing else... except a silver ring!
Nature has to reveal those coins to us detectorists but this winter has been lacking. Sometimes you'll get a cool cut that previously held coins in the sand (like at tide ave I was the tipster for this vid
), but from experience most cuts do not contain anything!
 
Being in Rhode Island, you're never far from the beach and since you don't need permission to go there, I hit the beaches a lot.

That being said, every gold ring I've found on the beach has been old, makers marks put them all pre 1900. This is definitely a factor of the kind of beaches I hunt, but, the lack of modern gold is noticeable and I'd agree with all of the above listed reasons.
 
...... Sometimes you'll get a cool cut that previously held coins in the sand (like at tide ave I was the tipster for this vid........

I enjoyed your video Sirius. That's my back yard stomping grounds. That beach has had some episodes, in the past, when a guy would bag 200 coins in a hunt. Two of my gold coins came off that beach years ago. But I haven't seen it productive in a long time.

There was a guy who was hunting that beach in the 1982-83 storms, and described a few days as follows : That the cut was way back in the dunes, and like 6 ft. tall ! (they thought they were going to lose those condominiums there !!). And he described that all the clad (the top several feet) was washed away, meaning that : All the coins were old. There was almost no clad ! Even a day with like 4 silver dollars in amongst his count. Every coin was a wheatie or silver, etc.... Naturally the sand came back in the following springs and summers, so today, it's always mixed. :roll: The only way we'd ever see a "every coin = old" again, is if mother nature ever goes back into dunes, which haven't seen wet-salt-water in 100 yrs. again. Ie.: to cut into virgin dunes.

The downside to when that particular beach erodes back into the dunes, is that it becomes very junky. Lots of lead slag and copper junkage. Because the city of Monterey people used to dump their trash in the dunes.

Anyhow, great video ! thanx for sharing !
 
I enjoyed your video Sirius. That's my back yard stomping grounds. That beach has had some episodes, in the past, when a guy would bag 200 coins in a hunt. Two of my gold coins came off that beach years ago. But I haven't seen it productive in a long time.

There was a guy who was hunting that beach in the 1982-83 storms, and described a few days as follows : That the cut was way back in the dunes, and like 6 ft. tall ! (they thought they were going to lose those condominiums there !!). And he described that all the clad (the top several feet) was washed away, meaning that : All the coins were old. There was almost no clad ! Even a day with like 4 silver dollars in amongst his count. Every coin was a wheatie or silver, etc.... Naturally the sand came back in the following springs and summers, so today, it's always mixed. :roll: The only way we'd ever see a "every coin = old" again, is if mother nature ever goes back into dunes, which haven't seen wet-salt-water in 100 yrs. again. Ie.: to cut into virgin dunes.

The downside to when that particular beach erodes back into the dunes, is that it becomes very junky. Lots of lead slag and copper junkage. Because the city of Monterey people used to dump their trash in the dunes.

Anyhow, great video ! thanx for sharing !
It ain't my vid! I just gave the heads up to the youtuber to look there cause I had detected there the day prior and found tons of coins and a silver ring. This was a solid place because I noticed coins were showing up in that location before the sand had been removed by the waves.

That's one heck of a story. I'd like to get the opportunity to see that happen. It doesn't matter if I get slag cause copper and heavier junk means there's sure to be tons of treasure sprinkled in-between ! It's been really really slow man and any day I get a ton of targets is a good day.
 
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It ain't my vid! I just gave the heads up to the youtuber to look there cause I had detected there the day prior and found tons of coins and a silver ring. This was a solid place because I noticed coins were showing up in that location before the sand had been removed by the waves.

That's one heck of a story. I'd like to get the opportunity to see that happen. It doesn't matter if I get slag cause copper and heavier junk means there's sure to be tons of treasure sprinkled in-between ! It's been really really slow man and any day I get a ton of targets is a good day.
Yeah , MMM. The guy who is now complaining that all these people are asking too many questions on his SM sites. The guy who can't handle negative comments. The guy who complains about being "cold" and is constantly driving to So.Cal to hunt.🤮
 
The wife and I used to have a 2nd house down near Rehoboth. It was a small house, but we loved it and called it our "vacation estate", lol. But we'd go down there every weekend for over 10 years, and always spent a week vacation there, lots of family would come down. I'd venture down to OC here and there, but mainly hunted the beaches in DE, since it was closer to home base. My one friend Capt Tom hunts the Delaware beaches a lot, you may know him and his son, the guy is like 80 and hunts several days a week, still. He is the one who found the 103 gram 14k gold/diamond ring in Oc 2015.
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Haven't hunted much in the Chesapeake Bay, but I pretty much grew up there, my dad was in the Coast Guard reserves and we always had a boat. He also previously had a 2nd house down on Tilghman Island and we'd go down there & St. Michael's often. I remember many years ago there were these 2 guys who hunted old, forgotten swimming areas in the Chesapeake Bay. I have one of their books but can't remember their names. They had a boat and would travel the Chesapeake to hit those long forgotten swimming areas. They found a ton of rings using a PI, and I remember they had one of the early beach sand scoops, had a large U-Shaped handle. Yes, that was Bob and Frank, I have a couple oldtimer friends that knew them. Back in the day there was a lot going on with both of them, specially Bob. Together they owned a metal detecting shop in Glen Burnie, my one friend Steve told me they would come to the MARS club meetings with a small bucket full of gold. Come to find out, they did very well and found many gold rings but their shop sold detectors / scoops ..they would also take payments of gold if you bought a detector. Which they added to there booty found. Many stories, both have passed now. I was able to collect some of Franks notes on information he had collected over the years.... from his daugther when she was cleaning out his home near Marley Station Mall.

BTW OBN, I remember you on the forums years ago. I was on this forum and a couple others about 8 - 10 years ago, and there was a guy named CritterHunter. I think that was his name. He swung a Sovereign GT and did a lot of land hunting, seemed to find a lot of very deep dimes, lol. Do you remember or ever run into him? I remember critter very well, on the Sovereign/Excalibur Forum. Never really communicated with him and I don't think he lived in Maryland. I know he did come up with a wiring diagram for the remote PP/Disc mode on the GT which was a difficult task.. the early sovereigns were easy but the GT required a lot more effort. Anything related to metal detecting I can remember very well, but ask me what I did yesterday around the house.. :?:
 
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It's usually not about new coins and fresh drops that are exciting to find, but rather those green coins that lead to even more finds on the beach. I once found a green coin and circled it to find nothing else... except a silver ring!
Nature has to reveal those coins to us detectorists but this winter has been lacking. Sometimes you'll get a cool cut that previously held coins in the sand (like at tide ave I was the tipster for this vid
), but from experience most cuts do not contain anything!
Cuts have caused me to shake my head many times at the beach. We would logically think that if 2 or 3 feet of sand was removed, then we'd stand a better chance at finding targets that were previously out of reach, but that's not always, and sometimes rarely the case. The beach can be so friggin' confusing, I've made some great finds in locations I didn't think would have anything, and I hunted areas that should have produced great finds and found nothing. Only thing to do on the beach is to keep going back and keep searching. Persistence has paid off for me many times, but nothings ever guaranteed at the beach, it just is what it is, lol.
 
Yes, that was Bob and Frank, I have a couple oldtimer friends that knew them. Back in the day there was a lot going on with both of them, specially Bob. Together they owned a metal detecting shop in Glen Burnie, my one friend Steve told me they would come to the MARS club meetings with a small bucket full of gold. Come to find out, they did very well and found many gold rings but their shop sold detectors / scoops ..they would also take payments of gold if you bought a detector. Which they added to there booty found. Many stories, both have passed now. I was able to collect some of Franks notes on information he had collected over the years.... from his daugther when she was cleaning out his home near Marley Station Mall.
Yeah, Bob and Frank, I have one of their books but couldn't remember their names. Man, they had a good thing going back in the day as they were hitting virgin sites using their boat that probably had never been hit. And using a PI, it probably was all for their taking.

I remember critter very well, on the Sovereign/Excalibur Forum. Never really communicated with him and I don't think he lived in Maryland. I know he did come up with a wiring diagram for the remote PP/Disc mode on the GT which was a difficult task.. the early sovereigns were easy but the GT required a lot more effort. Anything related to metal detecting I can remember very well, but ask me what I did yesterday around the house.

Yep, that's him. I hung out on the Sovereign/Excalibur forum quite a bit. I was looking to do some mods to my Sovereign and there seemed to be a lot of mods available. But yeah, I specifically remember Critter showing that remote PP/Disc mode switch on his GT. If I recall, I think he installed a button at the top of his handle, so he could depress with his thumb to engage the mod. I remember he did a great write up about the mod, had drawings, or schematics if you will. I chatted with him on a few occasions, he always freely shared techniques, tips, ideas, mods, etc. I wonder if he's still around? But damn, he seemed to be able to find those deep dimes, he was always posting about finding dimes like 15" deep with his GT, lol. Mercs just seemed to be drawn to him like bees to honey.
 
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Cuts have caused me to shake my head many times at the beach. We would logically think that if 2 or 3 feet of sand was removed, then we'd stand a better chance at finding targets that were previously out of reach, but that's not always, ........

It depends on if the cut is cutting into sand that *only* just came-back-in, @ the prior spring/summer. In which case, it's cutting into sterile sand (assuming that the incoming sand was sterile on its way-back-in). The best cuts are ones that cut way back into the normally high & dry sand dunes.

Also beware of 'cuts' that form in gully wash channels (where creeks & culverts flow into the ocean). Because go figure that those cut the same exact channel/path each season. They can look like impressive cuts, but are simply cutting back-out sterile sand , in the same exact path, each season.
 
........he was always posting about finding dimes like 15" deep with his GT, .......

I watched a guy, using the Sov / Wot combo, dig a zinc at a MEASURED 15" deep on the wet-salt-beach. On Santa Cruz boardwalk beach. And he did it with room-to-spare, and an accurate TID call (since it had the after market TID meter on there). VERY VERY impressive depth.

However it was a very warbly & fishy set up to get used to. But some people get used to it, and figure out the pinpointing. It was just too fishy and too warbly for my blood though.
 
I watched a guy, using the Sov / Wot combo, dig a zinc at a MEASURED 15" deep on the wet-salt-beach. On Santa Cruz boardwalk beach. And he did it with room-to-spare, and an accurate TID call (since it had the after market TID meter on there). VERY VERY impressive depth.

However it was a very warbly & fishy set up to get used to. But some people get used to it, and figure out the pinpointing. It was just too fishy and too warbly for my blood though.
A 15 inch zinc? Man all that work just for a crusty one. Still the depth sounds impressive.
 
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