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[OZARKS]

I get a kick out the people that slam the Delta, but do not realize that they are almost the same machine as the F2

I have owned 3 Deltas, used them all, and my conclusion was that I couldn't get them sold on Ebay fast enough!

Discrimination left alot to be desired, if I discriminated foil, well foil just rang up as zinc. If I discriminated iron, well iron just showed up foil...on every one I ever used. The disc was nowhere near as good as the F2.

The sensitivity was good, but too good, I couldn't get anywhere near playground equipment or sidewalks, Two of the main places that I like to detect.

The Deltas wouldn't lock onto targets like the F2, instead every target was bouncy signal.

All 3 that I owned and tested were the same way, and I sold every one on ebay as fast as I could. I figure, let them be frustrated with it, I'll stick to my F2 since it tends to be a more stable machine.

So, I didn't say what I said blindly, I said what I said from experience, with THREE different Deltas, so it wasn't just one machine that may have been faulty.

I would pick any bounty hunter over a Delta 4000, and that's not "slamming" as you put it, it's a fact based on experience.

 

[Dig-on]

That is strange to hear. The one I owned last year was purchased the same time as the F2. I felt that their discrimination was almost identical. That was from checking targets side by side in the field. The only thing that I liked more on the Delta was the pinpointing.
It could be your soil that caused your Delta machines to act quacky? I have heard the same from some other people that they did not like the machine, but I have heard from others that have said that it was very stable. I for one would buy one again based on my experience. With your experience of them, I would not blame you for hating them. I also do not doubt your experience with them. At least FT makes a stable machine for you
HH

 

[beam]

Because of this thread, I now know that Teknetics and Fisher are two different companies. LOL. When I see the Teknetics, the similarity to Fishers is so close that I just figured they were different brands of the same company!

 

[cadman]

Because of this thread, I now know that Teknetics and Fisher are two different companies. LOL. When I see the Teknetics, the similarity to Fishers is so close that I just figured they were different brands of the same company!

They are separate companies under the umbrella of First Texas Products. First Texas also makes Bounty Hunter detectors.

 

[sycotoad]

Well I can say without a doubt that the Delta is deeper on silver than the F2, but the F2 is deeper on copper coins -

Both on discrimination mode - Both using 8" concentric

I dare say the Delta on A1/A2 would leave the F2 behind, but will pass judgement until I carry out more tests -

As for the sensitivity issue people experience with the Delta - I believe its set up to run hot - Just reduce the sensitivity if it chirps like a 2 bit hooker -

Perhaps they had the mods/tweekers in mind when they set these up -
Saves people opening them up to supertune - already there, too hot? - simply reduce sensitivity -

The only thing that I find to be a distinct advantage with the F2 is that it ID's a lot better than the Delta -

Still - I like them both

 

[OZARKS]

Well I can say without a doubt that the Delta is deeper on silver than the F2, but the F2 is deeper on copper coins -

I agree, the Delta found some very deep dimes for me that I wondered if the F2 would have found?

Both on discrimination mode - Both using 8" concentric

I dare say the Delta on A1/A2 would leave the F2 behind, but will pass judgement until I carry out more tests -

I will say that I discovered the A2 setting, and it was awesome new territory for me, although it was a bit confusing the way the "language" changed. I actually liked that mode

As for the sensitivity issue people experience with the Delta - I believe its set up to run hot - Just reduce the sensitivity if it chirps like a 2 bit hooker -


I agree, it runs hot which has it's pluses. On a CW battle field, the Delta would be a great machine IMO. The areas I mentioned above it just frustrated me.

Perhaps they had the mods/tweekers in mind when they set these up -
Saves people opening them up to supertune - already there, too hot? - simply reduce sensitivity -

The only thing that I find to be a distinct advantage with the F2 is that it ID's a lot better than the Delta -

I agree, the Id was more correct on the F2...or should I say less bouncy.

Still - I like them both

I don't hate the Delta, the machine was just too unstable for my liking. Am I a Pro? Nah, read my page, I call myself a 3 year rookie, and I am.

Maybe more time with the Deltas would change my OPINION. I was very excited the first time I got one, but was left frustrated and feeling like I was digging it all, even in Disc mode which left a bad tatse in my mouth as far as it's discrimination abilities. Are Deltas good machines? Yes. Are they for ME personally, nah I didn't really care for the machine.

Are there guys on here that clean up with deltas with even better finds than mine? Absolutely, and it probably all comes down to "personal taste."

 

[sycotoad]

I don't hate the Delta, the machine was just too unstable for my liking. Am I a Pro? Nah, read my page, I call myself a 3 year rookie, and I am.

Maybe more time with the Deltas would change my OPINION. I was very excited the first time I got one, but was left frustrated and feeling like I was digging it all, even in Disc mode which left a bad tatse in my mouth as far as it's discrimination abilities. Are Deltas good machines? Yes. Are they for ME personally, nah I didn't really care for the machine.

Are there guys on here that clean up with deltas with even better finds than mine? Absolutely, and it probably all comes down to "personal taste."

Totally agree with what you have posted Ozarks & respect your opinions

I am a noob at this as I have only been doing it for a year & change - Started with an F2 - Didnt realise how great the unit was when I started so it was inevitable that it would be sold as I moved up through the metal detectors - A dozen or so detectors later I have just purchased a 3 coil F2 Package from a fellow member - Straight away I was pulling in the coins like I used to ..................

Love my F2..... & my Delta ....... & my compadre ........ & my musky.............

 

[OZARKS]

Evan does a great review of the Euro here.

I asked

"What sets this apart from the Delta 4000s? If nothing, then what is the point of the machine? DOn't take what I said offensively. I follow all of your videos, and love what you do. I have learned a ton from you. As a skeptic, why would someone get this machine and not a tek delta 4000 which is what it appears to be repackaged."

Gonehunting73


"To be honest I haven't ran the Tek 4000, but I did have a friend that had one and it seemed more stable I didn't have the emi issues that I remember him having. The numbers, from what I remember were don't jump around like his did .I do think it is better than the F2, cause me and Steph did have one of those. I remember in a more trashy environment, the F2 seemed to have trouble locking down on good targets..This one not as much. I definitely appreciate you input and your views.. Thanks bud.."




So, there's an opinon of someone who has used one, as well as many other machines, and he gave his personal opinion based on his experience.

I value his opinion, and his opinion seems fair enough to me.

 

[MetalheadHorror]

Aren't Teknetics and Fisher the same company? If you look at the address it is the same for Fisher and Teknetics. I always thought one was just a cheaper division of Fisher.

 

[Dig-on]

Aren't Teknetics and Fisher the same company? If you look at the address it is the same for Fisher and Teknetics. I always thought one was just a cheaper division of Fisher.

I would relate them to Plymouth, Dodge, Chrysler. All owned by the same head company, but 3 separate R & D devisions.

 

[Silversmith45]

I have both the F2 and Delta. I have found six silver coins so far this year with my Delta. I haven't found any with the F2. I have never had the troubles that everyone complains about.

 

[Dig-on]

My ET Pro was just ordered through Bart Now if someone wants to send me an F2 so I can test them side by side

 

[OZARKS]

My ET Pro was just ordered through Bart Now if someone wants to send me an F2 so I can test them side by side

Or if someone want's to send me a Tek Euro to test with me being skeptical and all, let me know, I'll review it and send it back... Nothing better than first hand experience...

 

[AtomicScott]

Wonder if it is just a Teknetics Alpha with a little less or a little more "juice"

Teknetics Alpha Specs. ($199.00)
3 Tone discrimination
1 Tone selection
6 levels of adjustable discriminations
Discrimination by categories
Single notch selectable by category
Adjustable sensitivity
Battery life indicator
Intuitive menu system
Numerical depth readout
Rubber-button control interface
All metals motion mode
7.8 kHz transmit frequency
Preset ground balance
Overload Alarm System
8” concentric open face coil
Locking ring coil connector
Manual Ground Balance
1/8” and 1/4” headphone jack
Requires one 9V Alkaline battery (not included)
5 Year Limited Warranty
Weight (in pounds): 2.2

Actually the Alpha has no manual ground balance, preset GB only! It sucks when companies put out the wrong info on the spec sheet and confuse the perspective buyer!

 

[Marldain]

So what is he trying to have as a selling point when he says "tactical black, high speed, low drag, sleek housing, with green to black faceplate" high speed low drag? really?

When he turned it around to show the headphone jack, whats with the big hold that shows all the electronics being exposed.

This thing looks and probly feels just like the F2, but the kind of marketing they are pitching is just nasty. I hate when advertisements straight out lie about the product.

 

[OZARKS]

So what is he trying to have as a selling point when he says "tactical black, high speed, low drag, sleek housing, with green to black faceplate" high speed low drag? really?

When he turned it around to show the headphone jack, whats with the big hold that shows all the electronics being exposed.

This thing looks and probly feels just like the F2, but the kind of marketing they are pitching is just nasty. I hate when advertisements straight out lie about the product.

Remember when the CTX came out?

 

[NoIronMan]

I get a kick out the people that slam the Delta, but do not realize that they are almost the same machine as the F2

One big difference is that the F2 utilizes (2) 9v's instead of one. Can a 9v detector perform as well as an 18v? I don't know if the F2 batteries are wired series or parallel though!

 

[Skwerly]

lol @ 18 volts. no. one 9v runs the coil, the other runs the VDI screen. they are totally separate.

 

[sycotoad]

Remember when the CTX came out?

yes but First Texa's consistantly mislead THEIR customers throughout their models .......................... why???