Honesty is the best policy???*IMPORTANT*

[Caius Gauge]

Hello everyone.

I had noticed a couple of things recently that have kind of irked me, and I wonder if it bothers all of you as well.

I have noticed from a couple of very new members on this site with some awfully dishonest approaches to detecting. Trespassing, rather than asking permission, using night as a cover to hide your presence(while trespassing), offering to give other dishonest tips via email, etc. Is this really what some people think constitutes Metal Detecting??? Slinking around like a sneaky theif?? Pardon me, but havent most of us been trying to promote MDing as something positive to the community? Helping others, not just ourselves...

I dont normally get flustered like this, but to me, those members (who I don't name, out of courtesy) are the exact OPPOSITE of the direction most of us are leaning towards. I have met MDers before who had those attitudes, and I avoid them. I dont want to be a part of their sneaky schemes.

This, however, is just my opinion. All of you have just as much right to have your own opinion, and If I shoved my opinion in your faces, I appologize.

What are your thoughts on this, everyone?

-Caius Gauge

 

[vexhold]

Guess I missed those posts you are refering to, but yeah thats a no-no.

 

[Onaug]

I remember some posts on mounting lights to see your coil at night, but these are people who hunt parks at night up until 10pm when they close. I guess I missed the posts you are talking about. PM me a name if you don't want to out them.

 

[joee5]

I saw them posts and everyone of them had the WRONG advice for sure.

 

[Me&MyBoy]

That type of bad advice does pop up here occasionally. I noticed a post a day or two ago that, from what I recall, advocated nighthawking and trespassing. It's really bad advice that I hope any MD'er with a grain of common sense and ethics would ignore.

 

[KWA]

i guess in the case of remodeling a home that has been through various owners and coming across a stash that is dated several years and owners is a real issue on some of these posts.
the law states in most states that the original residences that actually lost or misplaced it are the real owners and not the current owners.
i would be hard pressed to turn it over to someone that just bought the place
might do my own research to find the original owners.
my dilemma is if someone loses something and does not pursue it, my mind think is they have abandoned said property and it should belong to the finders as 99% of ownership is posession.
do you actually think that these people you turn it over to are going to try and find who actually owned it when it was lost?
bottom line if it doent feel right it probably isnt.
i saw a show where some new owners found an original auotographed photo of the first baseball team i think around 1887.
they got it appraised and i think it was worth around 200k.
this was in new york and an nyc firefighter and his young family were in the house only a couple of months when they made the find.
all they kept saying was all the things they were going to do with the $.
not, "i sure hope i can find the heirs so i can return this heirloom to the true heirs.

so its not just restricted to mders this is the way the great majority thinks.
is it right or wrong?
if you go by the law it is wrong.
gl2u

 

[turtlefoot]

Tresspassing is wrong and will hurt our hobby. Sneaking around at night to loot and steal is even worse for our hobby. Eventually, they will get caught and hopefully get what they have coming. That, unfortunately will happen at the expense of the law abiding hobbyists, which will hurt out hobby in an age where it is on shaky ground to begin with.

I am not sure of the posts that you are referring to, but nighthawkers and looters make me more mad than just about anything when it comes to this hobby. It is those types of actions that get doors closed for all of us and gives more ammunition to the law makers to close public lands.

Doug

 

[Chad]

Just looked at the culprit's past posts . . . .

What a toolbag. Those are the kinds of people that ruin it for everyone. No wonder we have such a bad rap. I'll guarantee he doesn't fill in his holes either, forget about removing his trash. I'm willing to bet they're thrown back in the hole or just left on the side of it. . . . see it all the time by my. VERY AGGRAVATING. Can't blame land owners for denying permission when this is what their faced with.

 

[Jason in Enid]

i saw a show where some new owners found an original auotographed photo of the first baseball team i think around 1887.
they got it appraised and i think it was worth around 200k.
this was in new york and an nyc firefighter and his young family were in the house only a couple of months when they made the find.
all they kept saying was all the things they were going to do with the $.
not, "i sure hope i can find the heirs so i can return this heirloom to the true heirs.

gl2u

I must have missed the posts the OP was talking about. But the above quote has nothing to do with the topic. When you buy a property, you buy everything that is there. There is nothing illegal or even immoral about keeping or selling something found during a remodel of property YOU own. Otherwise you could go detecting on any property any ancestor ever owned since you are just recovering what was lost by the previous owners.

 

[Robo99]

I agree, read thru all the posts and the point seems clear. There are a lot of properties I have wanted to detect but haven't been able to find an owner of or make contact with them. Thats just the downside of the hobby. Owner might be a detecter also and wants to search the property themselves. Oh well, better to stay off whats not mine and have a clear conscience, then to run around with a shiny silver quarter and a cardboard lightsaber.

my .02

 

[dogpound]

the last post in "training grounds" in this section is a good way ta get shot by a homeowner. (never mind i just seen that post was removed)
i do alot of nite hunting, almost all my beach hunting is at nite (no crowds and thats when the tide is low), during the summer i'll also do alot of nite hunting when its cooler out. big difference between nite hunting and trespassing

 

[Rudy]

the last post in "training grounds" in this section is a good way ta get shot by a homeowner.
i do alot of nite hunting, almost all my beach hunting is at nite (no crowds and thats when the tide is low), during the summer i'll also do alot of nite hunting when its cooler out. big difference between nite hunting and trespassing

The post you refer to has been removed. We encourage all detectorists to behave in an ethical manner and practice the code of conduct.

 

[Mama2Twins]

I hope you're not referring to me when hunting inside and outside of your house?

 

[dogpound]

The post you refer to has been removed. We encourage all detectorists to behave in an ethical manner and practice the code of conduct.

theses a couple more just like the one you removed still floatin around

 

[JMerry76]

I want to say that I was the original poster of the post in question. I am sorry to anyone that may have been offended by my post. I ment no disrespect by what I was posting. I have no intention of going out night hunting on others property. I would not have done that. I simply asked about slightly stepping of my own property. Apparently this was the wrong question to ask. My intent of the post was to ask about something else and I never should have mentioned anything else.

Again, I am sorry if I offended anyone. This was not my intent. I have also deleted my original post. I will repost later with my original question and leave it at that.

Thank you

 

[dogpound]

I want to say that I was the original poster of the post in question. I am sorry to anyone that may have been offended by my post. I ment no disrespect by what I was posting. I have no intention of going out night hunting on others property. I would not have done that. I simply asked about slightly stepping of my own property. Apparently this was the wrong question to ask. My intent of the post was to ask about something else and I never should have mentioned anything else.

Again, I am sorry if I offended anyone. This was not my intent. I have also deleted my original post. I will repost later with my original question and leave it at that.

Thank you

it certainly wasn't your question, it was another members response to your question that was poor advice

 

[Chad]

I hope you're not referring to me when hunting inside and outside of your house?

I want to say that I was the original poster of the post in question.

NO NO NO . . . it was neither of you two.

 

[KWA]

jason

you are wrong! said property falls into the misplaced property statute.
look it up.
or maybe this doesnt have anything to do about this post either!
gl2u

 

[Mama2Twins]

you are wrong! said property falls into the misplaced property statute.
look it up.
or maybe this doesnt have anything to do about this post either!
gl2u

I will do that

 

[Mama2Twins]

you are wrong! said property falls into the misplaced property statute.
look it up.
or maybe this doesnt have anything to do about this post either!
gl2u

I want to say that I was the original poster of the post in question. I am sorry to anyone that may have been offended by my post. I ment no disrespect by what I was posting. I have no intention of going out night hunting on others property. I would not have done that. I simply asked about slightly stepping of my own property. Apparently this was the wrong question to ask. My intent of the post was to ask about something else and I never should have mentioned anything else.

Again, I am sorry if I offended anyone. This was not my intent. I have also deleted my original post. I will repost later with my original question and leave it at that.

Thank you

No offense taken at all. When another member brought up the house hunting I was hoping it wasn't me. I never want to post anything that would be negative or offensive. If I were to, I would want to know.