alkazoo
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I got caught up in all the hype, thought we might have minelabs new improved replacement for the good ole eTrac, oh well, love my eTrac, guess ill stick with it for now.
Well, the majority of people seem to think the equinox basically is better than etrac and 3030 at less than half the price..So that's the first shot in the foot I guess on minelabs part if it's true..I mean who would want a etrac or 3030 when a equinox is better and so much cheaper?
So if the vanquish reports to be as good as the equinox, no brainer, who needs to overpay for a equinox when the vanquish will be just as good? Both use the same multi freak technology from what I gather, the rest would be personal preference options
I bought the nox, price was good (kinda high for me) I’d never compare it to an etrac or ctx. I’ll go toe to toe with an at pro and so far have come out on top. Big difference in my version and yours though. Even minelab isn’t comparing vanquish to nox, only saying they both have multi iq
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It is not a matter of newbies having a wide choice of entry level detectors available. It is totally about competition in the technology industry. Yes our detectors are technological products. They are now all based on computer chips.
Our detector may start or probably has started to follow Moores law which states: Moore's law is the observation that the number of transistors in a dense integrated circuit doubles about every two years. ... Moore's law is an observation and projection of a historical trend and not a physical or natural law.
This law tends to allow for more technological power in our detectors while keeping the same price point of the previous model or even having the price decrease a little compared to the previous model or competing detector.
This law was postulated by Gordon Moore one of the founders of Intel.
Intel also adopted the policy of obsoleting their own product with new models (eg Pentiuim this and Pentium that) to prevent the competition from stealing Intel customers and it basically works. Apple successfully adopted this policy with Apple this and Apple that models every year or so. As of June 2019 Apple's world share of smart phones was over 50%.
Intel's world market in PC chips share as of June 2019 is 76.9% and their closest competitor AMD is 23.1%.
So for those two companies making your own products quickly obsolete by your own new products is working.
This strategy also develops very loyal customers who seem to be willing to stick with these companies because of the continuing improvement in features while the price stays close to the same. This can also increase their sales of their top of the line products due to this customer loyalty. But they have to keep increasing the technology in the top of the line products. Is Minelab now doing this with the CTX 3030?
Maybe Minelab has decided this is their new business model. So what if they reduce thier Nox 600 sales some but gain a larger number of new customers that would have traditionally gone to Garrett or First Texas Products. If you play this game successfully you will see a lot of the weaker competitors close their doors.
One poster is exactly correct. The market will determine if this strategy is successful over time. As with the Equinox series, the Minelab Vanquish models will be sold and people will use them and post their results on this forum.
I figure most of them will be newbies to the hobby and won't have the experience that the buyers of the 600 and 800 had and the more critical evaluations like we found on the 800 will be lacking on metal detecting forums.
I also suspect the Minelab dealers will welcome this opportunity to finally have three new entry level models to sell due to the increase newbie market awareness that Minelab will produce with their successful marketing strategy.
I know that the Ace line was a great line of metal detectors. But it was released 15 years ago. Consider a newbie reading these forums and figuring this out. Then comparing features of new technology (simultaneous multi-frequency) with 15 year old technology. I think the days of staying with 15 year old models of detectors in your sales line up are long gone.
I think the marketing cycle of new detectors has been and will continue to be accelerated. It will be up to Garrett and First Texas to respond to this new reality that Minelab has introduced to the market.
I'm a dealer who will step in this one. If it runs smooth and detects deep on wet salt sand and shallow water this will be a hit in my market.
I have a lot of folks who just want to hunt the wet sand and this will be the first entry level that could do it.
Who in their right mind would use a metal detector in shallow water that wasn't waterproof? That's an accident just waiting to happen. No way would I ever use a metal detector near water if it wasn't waterproof.
Who in their right mind would use a metal detector in shallow water that wasn't waterproof? That's an accident just waiting to happen. No way would I ever use a metal detector near water if it wasn't waterproof.
At first I was not a big fan of the red color but it grew on me the last few times I looked at it..I think Minelab is headed in the right direction and I’d buy that machine when it’s released,what is considered entry level today was high midrange level 5 years ago,so I don’t think performance is gonna be a issue with this new vanquish
Who in their right mind would use a metal detector in shallow water that wasn't waterproof? That's an accident just waiting to happen. No way would I ever use a metal detector near water if it wasn't waterproof.