Myers Depot Metal Detectors

Got an interesting detector on the way...

Ok read a lot more about it. Very interesting indeed. Are you getting the field tool set that can repair it? Looks like you can do everything you need to yourself.

I did find it strange the batteries only last 6 hours. BUT glad you can change them yourself and maybe have a spare set? If I read right it takes 2 different ones. I didn't know if that was at the same time OR one can replace the other.

Would never work in Michigan. I am very interested to see how it performs for you.
 
Pancake turner

No question in my mind at all.
Wasn't someone asking how to camo a metal detector just the other day?

I am curious what the search coil pattern of the PT detector is, and how it compares to a DD.

HH,
John Morton


Pancakes, fried potatoes, sausage, bacon and ham, eggs O.E.
Looks like a might useful and inspiring piece of equipment. LOL
 
ScubaDetector said:
Ok read a lot more about it. Very interesting indeed. Are you getting the field tool set that can repair it? Looks like you can do everything you need to yourself.

I did find it strange the batteries only last 6 hours. BUT glad you can change them yourself and maybe have a spare set? If I read right it takes 2 different ones. I didn't know if that was at the same time OR one can replace the other.

Would never work in Michigan. I am very interested to see how it performs for you.
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Nope the repair kit is a separate purchase, and costs $1,200...

It has a built in charger, so if you put in rechargeable C cell batteries you can plug the machine into wall socket or car cigarette lighter to charge them without removing the batteries.

Can't believe I can't find a field test or review of the CMD anywhere... the CEIA MIL-D1 didn't perform very well in super hot ground in the tests, but it was using a round 11" DD, I'm thinking the CMD with it's 13.75"x5.5" DD coil should handle hot ground better... hopefully anyway cause my ground is hotttt.
 
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Well... it arrived yesterday, From air test, my comparisons in my test garden, and taking it to the beach this morning these are my observations:

First and most obvious characteristic is that it is painfully unbalanced, all the weight is on your hand, my elbow was burning in pain after about 30 minutes... the Minelab F3 which is heavier but is so much better balanced, feels half the weight of the CMD while on the arm, the Infinium feels like a feather compared to both of them...

It's pretty sensitive for a VLF, but not quite as sensitive as the F3 or Infinium in my hot ground. Gets about 2" less depth than either Infinium or F3 in air and in ground difference seems even bigger. The depth difference is most obvious on smaller gold. Hits a nickel pretty hard though, about the depth of the PIs in air, but not in ground.

Ground balances fine on hot ground, very stable.

Uhh... headphones work well... :D

Conclusion:

It is essentially a VLF that works like a PI (no tones/no disc), can sweep it fast, and it covers a good amount of ground per sweep, but I'll take the extra sensitivity and depth of the Minelab F3/Infinium over it any day. The weight balance is a killer, after 2 hours my arm couldn't swing it anymore... my arm is shaking as I type this...

It isn't a bad machine, but when I'm comparing it to the F3/Infinium, which granted are going to be hard machines to beat, it just doesn't compete performance wise. It's only advantage is sweep speed and a little more coverage when compared to the F3, but less than the Infinium, at the cost of depth, and sensitivity to small gold.

I was hoping that it would be a winner on small gold, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Going to test it out some more, otherwise it's going back on ebay...

Oh well, was worth a shot, hopefully I can get most of my money back...
 
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Thank you

Just wanted to thank you for your honest review of the detector as some may have not been so forthcoming being afraid of people's reaction and thinking about your purchase. I've seen some so desperate to justify their actions that all objective ness goes right out the window.
Thanks,
SD
 
Crumble,
I have to compliment you on trying other detectors that are not the norm. I remember how unhappy you were with the big internet hype machine that didn't really work that well in your area. Instead of turning it into a closet queen, you have plunged straight forward with "good" detectors and now doing what very few are doing, trying something new. Thanks for the reports and photos, I have enjoyed them and I am learning something.
 
After rereading through the comparisons done by different demining agencies, most confirm that the F3 outperforms most mine detectors on highly mineralized ground, which makes sense seeing that it is a Minelab PI. However the same comparisons show the CEIA getting better depth/sensitivity on light to medium mineralization.

I did the testing in some pretty hot ground, I need to test the machines over lighter mineralized ground (sanded in conditions) to truely get a sense of what the CMD can do. If the CMD can match or beat the F3 in sanded in conditions, I may have a use for it afterall. With its faster sweep speed and 50% more coverage than the F3.

I guess we will find out soon... I'll let you guys know how it turns out.
 
Good report Crumbles, thanks for posting and saving me cash if I ever seen one.
 
The Vallon mine detectors win most of the mine detector comparisons that I have read, with the Minelab F3 close behind. The Minelab pulls ahead in the hotter ground. Minelab F3 seems to essentially be a Minelab GP Extreme in an aluminum waterproof body, so if the Vallon is more sensitive in most ground, it should do good on nuggets. I would say it should do alright on nuggets down to .25 gram or less. Using a PI on land will drive you nuts unless you are far away from civilization, like in the gold fields.

Hopefully it isn't one of the compact models that you have like the one in the original post of this thread. They are so front heavy that you have to be built like Popeye to be able to swing it for an extended period of time. Minelab F3 has great balance though, I imagine the Vallon full size is similar.
 
Well, if it does not work well detecting chains then maybe you can use it at the next cookout to flip burgers! It looks like an army spatula. Nice. :laughing:
 
imalookin2 said:
Well, if it does not work well detecting chains then maybe you can use it at the next cookout to flip burgers! It looks like an army spatula. Nice. :laughing:
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I was thinking more of a pooper scooper for camels... :D

If I could swing it for more than 15 minutes at a time before needing to rest my arm... I would actually use it...

In the few times that I have used it, it is pretty damn sensitive though, picking up tiny pieces of wire, tiny fish hooks, etc., but so does the Infinium/F3 and I'd much rather swing them...
 
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Why are you wasting your time and money on all these different machines? I have spent thousands of hours using every kind of overpriced machine made and none of them have a lifetime warrantee or go deeper on tiny gold as the Sand S.......oh wait you already tried that. ;)
 
Yeah I loved the Sand Shhh, but when you own one people just start throwing gold at you as you are walking down the street (yeah it's that good). I found that flying gold hurts when you aren't expecting to get hit in the side of the head with it... I had to sell it for my own safety. :lol:
 
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