Digger, I understand that my view on the F series isn't popular with you. It's just an opinion though, which I tried to give an honest one. I've been detecting for twenty years and have used detectors from every brand basically and I try to let folks know my experiences with them. Doesn't mean that my word is law.
My sister actually uses the F2 exclusively and I've used t many times myself. Not the worst machine in the world but the quality is lacking in my opinion compared to similar priced detectors. I mentioned the control box, also on hers the foam grim just freely slides up and down the handle, after a few days of buying it.
Its not just the F series detectors either. I think Garrett has some serious quality control issues as well. My brother had an AT Pro which actually performed really well but it was built horrible. Two times the external speaker burned out just from plugging in the headphones and then the arm cup broke which apparently has happened to many at pro owners.
I'm not a mouth piece for any particular brand. I just try to relay my experiences having used most machines around. I tend to a lot of the classic Fishers as of late because I've never had an issue with them but that certainly doesn't mean they are the be all end all of detecting. Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers I just want folks to hear about positives and negatives of machines before plunking down their hard earned cash.
It is not what you say it is how you come across, to ME anyway, saying it.
You are a picky type, and expect and demand excellence and I get that, nothing wrong with that at all, but that word disgrace was a little harsh, I think, so many of us have these things and the build for us quality is a total non issue.
Right or wrong I felt insulted when I read that, it happens a lot when anyone knocks something that other people spent good money on, it is like you are insinuating we are stupid for not seeing flaws that you noticed, but I know you didn't mean that and I know it wasn't personal.
You also might really want to understand me when I say that what you experienced with the F70 and what I know, see and hear understand and can find seems to be totally 180 degrees different than your experience and I am not the only one, there are a bunch of us so either we are all delusional or there are some things about using the F series high end you never got to understand.
Again, not knocking you just different strokes for different folks.
Calling them the worst detectors was uncalled for, IMO, although you are not the only one that have said the same things about the F70 and F75 almost word for word.
I get it, the F70 was the worst for you, but you could have made your points in a different way.
There is always another way.
Like maybe "in my opinion the build quality is not the greatest", instead of using the word disgrace.
I apologize for my rant but I have always tried to help as many as I can on this and other forums whether it would be by support, posting tips, or tempering any opinions, especially about recommendations, in a logical, fair, honest and totally unbiased manner as I can manage.
There is good and bad in most detectors I guess, and if people need to know about the negative that should be put out there, but the positive needs to be understood and weighed too, and remember that things can be understood and looked at in totally different ways by two intelligent people because they can easily perceive the same experience in totally different manners...frequently.
Such is life.
Peace.