A weird question

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OK, I have sort of a strange question that’s tangentially related to me trying to get permission to hunt an old farm house property that’s been around since the early 1800s. It’s owned by an “older” couple (gotta be in their late 80s or early 90s), but they do not live at the home I’m interested in detecting…the wife inherited it from her sister when she passed…so it just sits there, abandoned. They live about 15 miles away from the property. Anyway, I drive by the place every day on my way to work and just stare at it longingly, hoping against hope to one day walk around there with my detector.

I have stopped by the couple’s home twice now, asking for permission. He’s all for it, but his wife is reluctant. Last Fall, when I visited for the first time, even after I was told no, I stayed and talked with the husband for about 30 minutes. When I say “talked with” what actually mean is that he started talking and telling me stories about the history of the area and his family, who have been there for decades…and I just stood there and listened. He loved telling me his stories.

I stopped by again about a week ago. He couldn’t remember my name (not too surprising) but he did say how very happy he was that I had stopped by again. I was hopeful that perhaps maybe they had had a change of heart, but alas, he still said that “they” were reluctant to let me detect. Still, he started in again with more stories of the area, and I spent about 40 minutes with him.

So here’s my question. He asked if I could do him a favor. Someone, a couple years ago, buried a chainsaw out on the back of their property. It was accidental, and there’s really no need to go into the details. He asked if I would go see if I could find it. What I’m wondering is how deep will a detector be able to “spot” something the size of a chainsaw? He has a pretty good idea of where it will be, but has no idea how deep it is. Do I even have a chance of finding it if it’s four feet down? Three feet? Two feet?

He did ask what I’d do with the chainsaw if I found it. I looked at him and said: “What do you mean…it’s yours…I give it to you”. He was surprised by my response…I think he thought I’d just take it home. I saw his surprise as an “IN” to once again clarify that anything I found at the old farmhouse was technically theirs too, and that I’d show them whatever I found. My hope is that if I somehow manage to find the chainsaw and then give it to him, maybe he will say I can go detect on the old farmhouse property. I just don’t know what chance I have it it’s over a couple feet below ground? I mean, a chainsaw is pretty big with lots of large(ish) metal parts…but I have no idea if my detector will see it beyond more than a foot or two.
 
OK...I'll explain. This is what the owner told me: A hired crew was removing some trees to put in some sort of drainage ditch. One of the guys, after cutting down some trees, sat his chainsaw down and went for a break. The guy running the backhoe didn't know the guy set his saw on the ground, and covered it up. When the "tree cutting guy" came back, he assumed that someone else had packed the saw away. They later accused the home owner (the old man I've been talking with) of stealing the chainsaw. So...that's how a chainsaw "accidentally" got buried.

Is it true? I have no idea. My guess is that the "tree cutting guy" actually stole the chainsaw. But hey, the old man wants me to look for it, and in doing so I might gain access to a piece of property with over 200 years of history, so guess what I'm gonna do. I'm just curious if my detector would even be able to "find" it if it's actually buried.
 
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OK...I'll explain. This is what the owner told me: A hired crew was removing some trees to put in some sort of drainage ditch. One of the guys, after cutting down some trees, sat his chainsaw down and went for a break. The guy running the backhoe didn't know the guy set his saw on the ground, and covered it up. When the "tree cutting guy" came back, he assumed that someone else had packed the saw away. They later accused the home owner (the old man I've been talking with) of stealing the chainsaw. So...that's how a chainsaw "accidentally" got buried.

Is it true? I have no idea. My guess is that the "tree cutting guy" actually stole the chainsaw. But hey, the old man wants me to look for it, and in doing so I might gain access to a piece of property with over 200 years of history, so guess what I'm gonna do. I'm just curious if my detector would even be able to "find" it if it's actually buried.
I'd would do exactly what you're going to do. Depending on the depth, it should scream at you,

Mark in Michigan
 
Is the area rocky? You may or may not be able to get a signal on your machine. Being as you really don't know the depth; I would grab a long metal probe and start poking around. The ground is already disturbed so probing should be easy. Then again, it may only be a foot in the ground, that is if it is really there in the first place.:shifty::ehh:😒🤔 Good luck.
 
Is the area rocky? You may or may not be able to get a signal on your machine. Being as you really don't know the depth; I would grab a long metal probe and start poking around. The ground is already disturbed so probing should be easy. Then again, it may only be a foot in the ground, that is if it is really there in the first place.:shifty::ehh:😒🤔 Good luck.
Good idea, I didn't think of that. I'll take a long piece of rebar with me when I go.
 
OK, I have sort of a strange question that’s tangentially related to me trying to get permission to hunt an old farm house property that’s been around since the early 1800s. It’s owned by an “older” couple (gotta be in their late 80s or early 90s), but they do not live at the home I’m interested in detecting…the wife inherited it from her sister when she passed…so it just sits there, abandoned. They live about 15 miles away from the property. Anyway, I drive by the place every day on my way to work and just stare at it longingly, hoping against hope to one day walk around there with my detector.

I have stopped by the couple’s home twice now, asking for permission. He’s all for it, but his wife is reluctant. Last Fall, when I visited for the first time, even after I was told no, I stayed and talked with the husband for about 30 minutes. When I say “talked with” what actually mean is that he started talking and telling me stories about the history of the area and his family, who have been there for decades…and I just stood there and listened. He loved telling me his stories.

I stopped by again about a week ago. He couldn’t remember my name (not too surprising) but he did say how very happy he was that I had stopped by again. I was hopeful that perhaps maybe they had had a change of heart, but alas, he still said that “they” were reluctant to let me detect. Still, he started in again with more stories of the area, and I spent about 40 minutes with him.

So here’s my question. He asked if I could do him a favor. Someone, a couple years ago, buried a chainsaw out on the back of their property. It was accidental, and there’s really no need to go into the details. He asked if I would go see if I could find it. What I’m wondering is how deep will a detector be able to “spot” something the size of a chainsaw? He has a pretty good idea of where it will be, but has no idea how deep it is. Do I even have a chance of finding it if it’s four feet down? Three feet? Two feet?

He did ask what I’d do with the chainsaw if I found it. I looked at him and said: “What do you mean…it’s yours…I give it to you”. He was surprised by my response…I think he thought I’d just take it home. I saw his surprise as an “IN” to once again clarify that anything I found at the old farmhouse was technically theirs too, and that I’d show them whatever I found. My hope is that if I somehow manage to find the chainsaw and then give it to him, maybe he will say I can go detect on the old farmhouse property. I just don’t know what chance I have it it’s over a couple feet below ground? I mean, a chainsaw is pretty big with lots of large(ish) metal parts…but I have no idea if my detector will see it beyond more than a foot or two.
The chainsaw should scream at you even if its a foot deep ! Even if you dont find it , the act of being willing to help may eventually open up the farm to you ( one hand washes the other so to speak ) . Even if the older gentleman doesnt allow it he may be able to help you locate other areas near by , old sites to detect like maybe an old swimming hole etc.. old dump site , old picnic grove etc... you get the idea . Or just a new friend !
Good luck to and let us know how it goes ....
Al
 
What you're doing is called, "relationship building". It's worth the effort. It seems like their reluctance to let you detect the whole place hinges on their understanding of what will happen to items found. In a word, they want first right of refusal. Their ground, their stuff, and before anything walks off they want to see it. You may walk off with it... but it will be with their blessing.

So, do the chainsaw seek, it's most likely not there. The heavy equipment op probably got it. Explain in as much detail as necessary your willingness to be transparent about any/all items found. Your honesty and integrity will shine brighter than any bling you excavate.
 
Found large objects a couple feet deep even like short gage iron rail, large farm junk, etc. Wouldn't overthink it, help him out, have fun, if they end up letting you detect more, great, if not, that's not why your there anyway, right? One promise though, if you find it, post it here, you'll get my vote for a feature find! :clapping:
 
KT once found a buried hood ornament on his church property....with the hood still attached! about 6 inches deep in the backyard of an abandoned house. By talking with some of the older members of the church, KT found out the former resident had a bunch of junk cars and parts scattered around the front and back yard that eventually the church hired someone to come and clean out all the scrap metal! evidently they missed that car hood! HA HA
 
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