Pic of my Manticore

[choppadude]

Sitting in the truck waiting for me to put down the Makro Legend long enough to give it some swing time lol!

 

[hoser]

Is that a spider web I see from the control box to the armrest.

 

[ecoast]

sexy beast

 

[BobOso]

I have not used my legend in almost a year after buying the manticore

 

[choppadude]

I have not used my legend in almost a year after buying the manticore

I have to admit, the Manticore 9is no slouch BUT this Legend is best in its price range and probable the best unit out there for $1K or less.
I've been detecting 40+ years and I cannot remember being this excited about a detector since I bought a New Whites 6000 Di many years ago.

 

[BobOso]

I have to admit, the Manticore 9is no slouch BUT this Legend is best in its price range and probable the best unit out there for $1K or less.
I've been detecting 40+ years and I cannot remember being this excited about a detector since I bought a New Whites 6000 Di many years ago.

The legend is a great machine for the price, but for me it comes down to dig or not to dig. With the legend if it sound good, I dig, but many times it is junk. With the manticore, if it sounds good and is on the center line and round, I dig. I dig far less trash with the manticore.

 

[IDXMonster]

Good to see you’re having fun with it Choppa! Some machines are just more relatable to certain people and whatever combination of person/machine works, it works. Do you have any videos anywhere to check out?

 

[longbow62]

Whatever works for you. My Legend sits in the closet. Actually I'd rather use my 800 as a backup to the Manticore.

 

[too_pointer]

Thank you for your story, and pics,
too_

 

[sube]

Whatever works for you. My Legend sits in the closet. Actually I'd rather use my 800 as a backup to the Manticore.

All of mine are sitting in the closet 24 high today low was 13 might warm up in a couple days . lol sube

 

[longbow62]

I'm dealing COVID right now for the first time, so technically all my detectors are in the closet. The worst is over though and I should be back at it by weeks end.

 

[yrekadude]

I've got a Manticore too, Haven't been too excited to use it lately due to colder wetter weather but the storms in the Northern California coastal areas like Santa Cruz have me hoping for some sand removal to go detect after.. I brought it with me to Redding for Christmas just in case but the weather has been crap..

 

[Mikey48]

The legend is a great machine for the price, but for me it comes down to dig or not to dig. With the legend if it sound good, I dig, but many times it is junk. With the manticore, if it sounds good and is on the center line and round, I dig. I dig far less trash with the manticore.

I am curious to know what "dig-it-all" testing you did, so that you know the Manticore is giving you good quality information for your dig choices. I don't own a Manticore yet, still hanging with my 800 for now, but very reliable id of trash, both deep and shallow would certainly motivate me to get one. Are you digging any gold with the Manticore?

 

[BobOso]

I am curious to know what "dig-it-all" testing you did, so that you know the Manticore is giving you good quality information for your dig choices. I don't own a Manticore yet, still hanging with my 800 for now, but very reliable id of trash, both deep and shallow would certainly motivate me to get one. Are you digging any gold with the Manticore?

Mikey, with all the machines I have owned, and I have owned the 800, you really have no idea what is in the ground until you dig it up. With the Manticore, if the object is round and on the center line, you have a 90% chance it is a coin, to narrow it down you will read the VID numbers. as for rings, first forget the VID numbers and concentrate on the center line, as gold could be any number, but so far for me has been on the center line. Pull tabs and caps will still throw you off if you are looking for rings, but for nickles you narrowed the search 99%, a solid 27 dig.
Now the best part, if you get a blob, forget about it, if the round object is way above the center line, it is usually trash, walk away, but if you are in Europe, then you might want to dig, I forget the VID # but it was round and above the center line and I decided to dig, the photo will show a 20 euro, found in a park here in Tucson.

 

[BobOso]

I am curious to know what "dig-it-all" testing you did, so that you know the Manticore is giving you good quality information for your dig choices. I don't own a Manticore yet, still hanging with my 800 for now, but very reliable id of trash, both deep and shallow would certainly motivate me to get one. Are you digging any gold with the Manticore?

Some more things found, the statue is gold plated, not a month goes by that I do not find jewellery, and I lost count of how much or how many coins, I could fill up countless posts, I do find my share of bling, but lost of it is either silver or gold.

 

[Diga]

Bob,

You seem to suggest that you dig less trash and more coins with your Manti because of the 2D screen. Is that correct? If so, then given that the 2D is screen is just representing what the TID shows as dots, blobs, etc, then can you give an exact example of how the 2D screen helps you find more coins, compared to using the TID?

I suggest that the 2D screen gives less accurate information than TID. For example, let's say a high conductor coin gives you 85 on the TID as you short wiggle over it. The 2D screen will then show a dot on the nonferrous line in the general area of the high conductor numbers. As such, the TID is more accurate because it assigns an exact number to the target, instead of a dot in the vague area of coins on the nonferrous line of the 2D screen.

 

[yrekadude]

Bob,

You seem to suggest that you dig less trash and more coins with your Manti because of the 2D screen. Is that correct? If so, then given that the 2D is screen is just representing what the TID shows as dots, blobs, etc, then can you give an exact example of how the 2D screen helps you find more coins, compared to using the TID?

I suggest that the 2D screen gives less accurate information than TID. For example, let's say a high conductor coin gives you 85 on the TID as you short wiggle over it. The 2D screen will then show a dot on the nonferrous line in the general area of the high conductor numbers. As such, the TID is more accurate because it assigns an exact number to the target, instead of a dot in the vague area of coins on the nonferrous line of the 2D screen.

Diga..

I've had my Manitore a year now and I find it to still be less easy to tell what's under the coil than when I had an E-Trac. I used to be able to hear what it was under my coil. I swear I could hear the ridges on bottlecaps. I have owned an EQ800 too and didnt like the tones, I was hoping the Manticore would be better and it is a little bit, I'm having a lot longer ramp-up time to learn Manticore tones than I did with E-Trac.. I still dig bottlecaps thinking they are quarters.. I love the lighter weight, Color LCD display, waterproof and many other things but miss E-Trac... a redesigned E-trac would be awesome, if they can do it for the X-Terra they can do it for the CTX3030 or E-Trac...

 

[Diga]

a redesigned E-trac would be awesome,

I don't think it's going to happen due to the battery consumption of BBS/FFS, and or the lackluster separation and speed compared to the very fast modern SMF detectors.

 

[UT_Dave]

I suggest that the 2D screen gives less accurate information than TID. For example, let's say a high conductor coin gives you 85 on the TID as you short wiggle over it. The 2D screen will then show a dot on the nonferrous line in the general area of the high conductor numbers. As such, the TID is more accurate because it assigns an exact number to the target, instead of a dot in the vague area of coins on the nonferrous line of the 2D screen.

Your forgetting that the target trace shows ferrous probability too. An "85" doesn't have to land on the non ferrous line. No TID has to land on it. If the 85 TID is all you had to go by, ignoring both TT and tones, you'd have to dig. But TT and tones convey far more information than the TID alone and you can be fairly certain if the 85 TID is ferrous or non-ferrous by looking at the TT and listening to the tones. If you are cherry picking and playing the odds you can safely skip digging many 85 TID signals by listening to the tones and looking at the TT. Indeed, 85 is a common TID for rusty bolts. But they don't sound the same as a good non ferrous 85 and the TT doesn't look the same either. The Target Trace and audio provide more information than the TID. Going by TID alone with the Manticore would be ignoring most of the target information the machine provides.

I dug my last silver ring of the year today and it just happened to be an 85. But a tiny dot on the center line. And 85 being smack between a clad dime and clad quarter, I was "pretty sure" it was going to be a small silver ring - I have found many such with the Manticore. And it was. I did not dig half a dozen other 85's I hit on today that the audio and TT showed almost certainly not non-ferrous. Rusty bolts is the most common non-ferrous 85 with the Manticore in my experience. But they are easily avoided, by not going by TID but rather by audio and TT.

Total haul for a 2 hour hunt.

The only targets dug not shown, were two copper grommets and the bottom screw portion of a light bulb. About 50 coins, a couple pieces of junk bling, a silver ring, a couple keys. Only three trash items. Impossible going by TID alone.

- Dave

 

[UT_Dave]

...the TID is more accurate because it assigns an exact number to the target, instead of a dot in the vague area of coins on the nonferrous line of the 2D screen.

I've seen you post this many times now. But I'm wondering why you think that the placement of a specific TID on the Target Trace is "vague"? It's quite precise, actually.

- Dave