Kellyco posts, good or bad?

I would venture to say that Kellyco doesn't want their employees surfing the forum all a day while they are at work

AHHHHH-- but that there, you have hit right upon the head as the ONE reason the suits don't have a clue whatsoever. At the end of, say, 3 months who is more likely to have more net (not gross $) sales that is going to be repeatable several times a year, or make me the first person someone's going to contact to see what kind of Kellyco merchandise is going to do what I need? --- Someone like me who sits there all day surfing the Net -- seemingly not doing jack all day instead of making cold calls and other useless, resource-sucking crap -- and on the forums being actually and seriously engaged with the detecting world and the people in it (because that's my hobby and that's what I love first and foremost, but still, it IS work), or "anyone_kellyco" who just pops up in the forum to drop the Kellyco name and doesn't contribute anything of value or interest?

On the other hand, this only goes so far because Kellyco is just a middleman reseller of other peoples' stuff at hopefully a better price than the next guy up the road, just like grocery stores or Menards or a car dealership. It's not like we have people from the actual manufacturers, like Whites or Fisher or Tesoro or Garret actively participating in that respect here. But still, Kellyco has been selling 9 bazillion boatloads of other people's stuff every year for decades. My point is, they could be selling 12 bazllion boatloads of stuff by hiring a dozen people who actually KNOW something about detecting surf the web all day and, in the end, sell TONS more stuff without actually selling stuff.

Again, it's not rocket science. I'll put a buck of my own willing to bet -- and I'm not even going to log in to see for sure -- that Kellyco doesn't have a Facebook presence.
 
Kellyco is probably paying the owners to sell detectors through here. I'm sure they are getting a nice commission. I would do the same thing. It's not like Kellyco is saturating the site with garbage. They can't make stickies or anything. I like the competition between the forum sponsors. It benefits all of us that want to get a good deal on a MDer.

I can see what you're saying though. It would be nice if they spent some of their time at home metal detecting at a nearby park and then maybe posting on the forums pictures of their finds. If they were true metal detectorists they'd do that. But that's ok. I got a good deal on an E-trac by using this forum and I'm grateful! :grin:
 
Kellyco is probably paying the owners to sell detectors through here. I'm sure they are getting a nice commission. I would do the same thing. It's not like Kellyco is saturating the site with garbage. They can't make stickies or anything. I like the competition between the forum sponsors. It benefits all of us that want to get a good deal on a MDer.

I can see what you're saying though. It would be nice if they spent some of their time at home metal detecting at a nearby park and then maybe posting on the forums pictures of their finds. If they were true metal detectorists they'd do that. But that's ok. I got a good deal on an E-trac by using this forum and I'm grateful! :grin:




Kellyco is just like our other sponsors... they pay for a banner period...

We ask our sponsors to be active on site helping members when they can...
 
In a blink of an eye I went from Newbie to Elite member

I haven't given a thought to my own member status. But if I know most forum owner/admins, I'm probably somewhere in between, in "Ummm, not sure about this guy, troublemaker or not?" territory. Especially with this thread I started.

Oy. But not sorry I started it. For the kids, ya know ;)
 
With more anti-detecting laws being passed everyday, I think that it's a good idea for a major company to get more involved with the forum. It's easy to see that they read the posts and I'm sure their company would carry more weight at protecting our rights to detect. If all of the manufacturers would band together, perhaps law makers would take another look at new laws before passing them.
 
For what it's worth, I am currently planning on ordering from Kellyco when I get some more scratch saved up for a new coil. (Hey kellyco, when ya gonna put the 10x12 sef for whites on super-sekrit-sale? PM ME!! hahaha)

And I just "liked" their facebook page lol
 
Whats the problem? I saved a lot of money though these sponsors. If it wasn't for them I'd probably pay retail O.O
 
Kellyco is hear to take money. Not to help. Trust me I had to find out the hard way. As soon as they seen there were a lot of people buying on here they started to come on here. Never helping just buy buy buy. Trust me the junk they give you when you buy a metal detector is not free. Last year around the end of Nov. I had them price match on a BH pioneer505. Guess what I was told NO FREE STUFF. And thats not the end of it. Instead of sending me a good machine. I was sent one from there scratch and dent department. Not even in the original box. And was force to keep it. I know Iam not the only one who they have done wrong too. I have seen lots of complains on here about them. And of course they have help alot of people. But not everyone. Well I could probably come up with 10 reasons why not to shop there. But thats enough about them. You should always shop with a independent dealer like BigBoys hobbies. BigBoys hobbies is here to help and not to take your money. And i can prove it.
 
Actually Kellyco's better now

Despite me starting this thread (boo, me!!!), I actually have to say that it appears Kellyco has come a LONG way from where they were during the very early 1990s, when I started out. Back then, ordering ANYTHING from Kellyco -- let alone try to get any sort of help choosing a detector over the phone or finding out where your order was -- was somewhere in between "haven't a farkin' clue" and "death." Customer service? Might as well go hang yourself.

It's good to see that they seem to have improved a whole lot, based solely on the comments in this forum. Unless y'all here have been Kellyco plants or something ;) ;) ;) Just KIDDING!!!! on that one.
 
Why not post some hints and stories of your own instead of ranting about a sponsor who pays $$ to help this forum survive. You sound like a sharp guy, I'm sure you've got some interesting finds!!!

Dusty
 
Kellyco is hear to take money. Not to help. Trust me I had to find out the hard way. As soon as they seen there were a lot of people buying on here they started to come on here. Never helping just buy buy buy. Trust me the junk they give you when you buy a metal detector is not free. Last year around the end of Nov. I had them price match on a BH pioneer505. Guess what I was told NO FREE STUFF. And thats not the end of it. Instead of sending me a good machine. I was sent one from there scratch and dent department. Not even in the original box. And was force to keep it. I know Iam not the only one who they have done wrong too. I have seen lots of complains on here about them. And of course they have help alot of people. But not everyone. Well I could probably come up with 10 reasons why not to shop there. But thats enough about them. You should always shop with a independent dealer like BigBoys hobbies. BigBoys hobbies is here to help and not to take your money. And i can prove it.

Bart from bigboyshobbies is pretty cool, he is on another forum quite a bit and he even goes into the chat rooms and talks about whatever with anybody. He also goes on to Jim's metal detecting program occasionally which is really cool. If anybody doesn't know about this program that is live every night, PM me and I will let you know.
 
Kellyco is hear to take money. Not to help. Trust me I had to find out the hard way. As soon as they seen there were a lot of people buying on here they started to come on here. Never helping just buy buy buy. Trust me the junk they give you when you buy a metal detector is not free. Last year around the end of Nov. I had them price match on a BH pioneer505. Guess what I was told NO FREE STUFF. And thats not the end of it. Instead of sending me a good machine. I was sent one from there scratch and dent department. Not even in the original box. And was force to keep it. I know Iam not the only one who they have done wrong too. I have seen lots of complains on here about them. And of course they have help alot of people. But not everyone. Well I could probably come up with 10 reasons why not to shop there. But thats enough about them. You should always shop with a independent dealer like BigBoys hobbies. BigBoys hobbies is here to help and not to take your money. And i can prove it.

I have had problems with Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Burger King, Mcdonalds so maybe we should never go there ever again..... Not really to bad of an idea really but it's totally irrational. They cant force you to keep a detector it sounds like there are more underlying circumstances that your not telling about. sounds like your playing on one side and bashing the others just my opinion...
 
Put on your deuce gear it's gettin thick

I just had a hassle free transaction with KellyCo that was well below the web site marked price and although the deal was negotiated bare bones the extras were thrown in anyway. I didn't have to go after them for order status or why is my stuff not here crap like I read about some of the other dealers. Seems to me they are a little more active on trying to improve customer relations like the other dealers should be doing.
 
I have noticed it has gotten a lot more competitive around here lately.
This happened after Big Boys came on board.

That is actually good for us, the people buying Metal Detectors. If they want to make a sale they need to offer a better deal than the other guy.
 
Bart from bigboyshobbies is pretty cool, he is on another forum quite a bit and he even goes into the chat rooms and talks about whatever with anybody. He also goes on to Jim's metal detecting program occasionally which is really cool. If anybody doesn't know about this program that is live every night, PM me and I will let you know.

See? That's what I'm talkin' about, Willis! Guys selling detectors out of their basements 10 years ago -- who were trying to figure out how they were gonna sell their stuff for the exact same price the manufacturer was making *everyone* sell it for at risk of losing your franchise -- didn't have nearly the same outlets the same guys today do (podcasts, social networking, etc etc).

Because now, as even back then, it's not the price of the stuff. It's ALL about how you can help some clueless/fence-sitting/I-got-a-grudge dude buy something that's gonna actually work, and work really well.

And even if you're not in the business of selling detecting stuff, you'll probably end up with one or two total strangers who end up liking or respecting some of your opinions more than your ex-wife does ;)
 
But thats enough about them. You should always shop with a independent dealer like BigBoys hobbies. BigBoys hobbies is here to help and not to take your money. And i can prove it.

I'm sorry if I'm being a pisher here, but isn't *anyone* in business doing whatever they can there to take peoples' money, unless they're a charity or something? Otherwise if you're not making a decent buck selling detecting stuff, why do it in the first place?

I'm not in business selling anything detecting relating whatsoever, yet I spend an inordinate amount time on the forums here. I do it because I have the time. And I like doing it. I don't make dime one. Yet, if I DID sell metal detecting stuff and intended to make a ton of money selling detecting stuff -- I betcha dollars to donuts some people (especially new people) would trust me more than some Kellyco rep who just says "hi" once a day. It's all about community, and understanding and appreciating that whether you're selling stuff or just a guy who likes to debate metal detecting subjects. Either way, it's all good providing you're sincerely trying to provide something of thought or value to others in the first place. Some people might misread you or misunderstand you or rake you over the coals, but most anyone will recognize what you're *really* here for -- to participate for the betterment of everyone, or to just sell some of your crap.

And this is pretty much why what you posted what you did about the guys at BigBoys (and again, don't know them, never dealt with them or Kellyco ever). They figured out awhile back what made you *want* to buy from BigBoys in the first place (and then come here and say exactly the great stuff you said about them afterward) -- and will continue to make them your #1 call to buy detecting stuff, like, forever.

It's all kinda simple. Or at least not that hard, IMO.
 
Again, not breaking bad on Kellyco, but is this the kind of person participating in the forums here to actually HELP someone either choose a first detector -- and OK, sell some stuff that actually will WORK for that person for many years and get the seller a decent commission -- or give some free insight, or is the rep here just because some suit at Kellyco thought having their reps show up in forums would on its own just sell more stuff without any regard for the hobby or the people joining it? Judging by the softball posts from the Kellyco reps here, I'm guessing the suits just had their way and picked about a half-dozen people to infiltrate the detecting forums, including this one.

In a nutshell, it's all about PR (public relations)..All/most large companies have reps in place for just that. They're here to let you know that they care, and encourage you to contact customer support should you hit a speed bump during your transaction. I happen to think it's a nice touch, and wouldn't expect them to be familiar with the entire line of products they sell. When I want a hardcore MD geek, I will request one via an 800# phone call. If you feel you need more, cut the middle man and go straight to the source. The folks at Whites were very helpful when I had questions regarding a shooter coil I was interested in. They even gave me some great tips on how to better use it. I understand you've stated that you're not breaking bad on Kellyco, but I see it all too often that when someone raises an eyebrow about how a certain company operates, it's important to remember that the reps/PR people here are simply employed by distributor companies..Not the manufacturers...Public relations are an important part of maintaining a comfort zone for potential customers. Of course they're going to plug their company now and again. That's their job. I currently have nothing but good things to say about my recent Kellyco purchases. I'm sure there are several other distributors here that have the same loyal following. Another thing to keep in mind is that every single on of these distributors rely on word of mouth. It only takes a few bad experiences to make people reluctant to do business with them. If I were to have relied on the few bad reviews I've read on ANY of my consumer electronics purchases, (phones, cameras, computers, etc)... I imagine I'd still be partying like it's 1899 !!

My $0.02 (wheats, of course)
Cheers,
Chris:cool:
 
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