OldCopper
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Good point!
Garrett Pro Pointer UNDER 2 inches?
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Good point!
Buried
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Ok, so we've established that some like the 6 inch reach of the pistol, but majority likes 2 inches, which brings me to cost.
125.00 Pro Pointer reaching under 2 inches
16.00 Cen-Tech modded can reach 2 inches
9.99 stud finder modded can reach 2 inches
Now, are people buying the Garrett because it says Garrett on it?
Is it like those people that say "I refuse to buy clothes from walmart, I only shop at the mall"?
Is it because people can't operate a screw driver and adjust the sens. of the others?
Now, I didn't list any real positives here because that is what I'm wanting the Garrett Pro Pointers people to do.
I'm honestly in the market for a pin pointer, and I've yet to hear any real fine examples of why one would spend 110.00 more for a product that equals the performance of the 16.00 one.
Someone sell me on the idea of the pro pointer, plenty of people own them and use them, I'm not understanding why people recommend them without any supporting information or positive comparisons.
I'm not trying to start a fight or argument with anyone, honestly.
125.00 Pro Pointer reaching under 2 inches
16.00 Cen-Tech modded can reach 2 inches
9.99 stud finder modded can reach 2 inches
Now, are people buying the Garrett because it says Garrett on it?
Is it like those people that say "I refuse to buy clothes from walmart, I only shop at the mall"?
Is it because people can't operate a screw driver and adjust the sens. of the others?
Now, I didn't list any real positives here because that is what I'm wanting the Garrett Pro Pointers people to do.
I'm honestly in the market for a pin pointer, and I've yet to hear any real fine examples of why one would spend 110.00 more for a product that equals the performance of the 16.00 one.
Someone sell me on the idea of the pro pointer, plenty of people own them and use them, I'm not understanding why people recommend them without any supporting information or positive comparisons.
I'm not trying to start a fight or argument with anyone, honestly.
I'll give you a little tip most won't.Buy a used propointer only! Cheap as you can find! Why? Because garrett is replacing so many for free that are broken with no questions asked! I'm not gonna pay 125 when i can pay 50$ and send it in for a brand new one.Some guys own three to keep one that works.Some only have one good one.Doa poll and see how many have had a broke pro pointer.It's staggering!Would you buy three cars to have one that runs?Hell no!
Buried
Elite Member
Great info, doing a poll though, it seems like everyone that has bought a Garrett Pro Pointer had to sign some agreement never to speak ill of them, or people in black suits will show up at their house, yet, I've seen numerous youtube videos of complaints about the pro pointer.
Really comes down to the depth of your wallet. The ProPointer has some fancy features for convenience, but not really need, just a nice. It auto-calibrates each time you turn it on, no tweaking an adjustment know, or checking on it occasionally as the temperature rises during the day. But how hard is it to re-adjust the sensitivity on the Centech occasionally during the day, or point it at your digger, if you think it might be getting weak? The ProPointer vibrates and beeps, but pager motors are cheap and easy to install in the Centech. The range feature, where the ProPointer gets more excited as it gets closer to the target. The Centech simply beeps, when you are within two inches. You can do the X thing, or raise the tip slightly, and get spot on, or just look through 2 inches of dirt (2-3 tablespoons worth, so difficult).
Still think if your hobby budget is kind of light, the ProPointer should be a low priority, maybe some future goal, when you've got the money handy, and you really need to be one of the cool kids.
But mostly, if you really have to work hard, sacrifice and save, just to buy such a holy prize, how are you going to feel, if it gets lost, stolen, misplaced, or destroyed beyond recognition? Was it really worth all you put into getting it? My ProPointer starts random beeping seconds after turning it on, almost before I can get it in the hole. Brand new battery, 9.46 volts on the meter. Cut a disk out of an old mouse pad, put in the cap, no difference. Been on the shelf last three hunts, Centech still works fine, don't see an difference in recovery time.
Martin_V3i
Elite Member
"it seems like everyone that has bought a Garrett Pro Pointer had to sign some agreement never to speak ill of them"
You surely jest.
stewart73
Forum Supporter
Why do we HAVE to sell you on anything? You are free to do as you please. There are more than enough info/reviews/discussions out there on the Garrett...either buy one or don't. Not really Earth-shattering stuff.
By the way I'm not trying to be mean, it's just that threads like this really seem like they're started for the sake of starting a thread rather than for any real purpose. Somebody tells us we have to 'convince' them of something...but they don't want opinions, 'only facts' and then no matter what you tell them they're going to find contrary evidence somewhere...."...well I saw a YouTube video where a guy did...but you guys said...." kind of thing and we're back where we started.
Some guys use a Centech and like them, some don't. Some guys use a HF and like them, some don't. Some guys use a Garrett and like them, some don't. You've heard a ton of opinions, seen a ton of videos...I think you're ready to drop the $16 (or $120) or not.
By the way I'm not trying to be mean, it's just that threads like this really seem like they're started for the sake of starting a thread rather than for any real purpose. Somebody tells us we have to 'convince' them of something...but they don't want opinions, 'only facts' and then no matter what you tell them they're going to find contrary evidence somewhere...."...well I saw a YouTube video where a guy did...but you guys said...." kind of thing and we're back where we started.
Some guys use a Centech and like them, some don't. Some guys use a HF and like them, some don't. Some guys use a Garrett and like them, some don't. You've heard a ton of opinions, seen a ton of videos...I think you're ready to drop the $16 (or $120) or not.
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Buried
Elite Member
Yes, I would love facts, not opinions. Like buying a car, its nice to know the mpg city/highway - how much horsepower the engine has and at what RPM, how much curb weight the car has, how much torque, etc..
Obviously, I do not own a pro pointer, that is why I am asking.
Cen-tech owners jump at the chance to defend it, with numbers, information, etc
And I'm still finding it difficult to understand why pro pointer owners can't support their pro pointer with facts, just opinions.
This is a friendly metal detecting forum, I thought we're suppose to help each other out, share knowledge, etc. Not just shun someone because they are seeking facts (not opinions) about a metal detecting accessory.
Obviously, I do not own a pro pointer, that is why I am asking.
Cen-tech owners jump at the chance to defend it, with numbers, information, etc
And I'm still finding it difficult to understand why pro pointer owners can't support their pro pointer with facts, just opinions.
This is a friendly metal detecting forum, I thought we're suppose to help each other out, share knowledge, etc. Not just shun someone because they are seeking facts (not opinions) about a metal detecting accessory.
robertj298
Junior Member
Fact.. The pro pointer does what it's supposed to do...fact..the pro pointer is easy to use...fact..if the pro pointer breaks Garrett will fix or repair it ...fact it's up to you how you spend your own money.
pointer is easy to
use...fact...if the pro pointer breaks Garrett will fix or repair it...
stewart73
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Right but how many incarnations of the 'facts' do you want? Didn't you just post a video of a propointer being tested with detailed measurements? What more could you need? Anything else is just our opinion (which you've made clear you don't want). And why does everybody have to 'support' or 'defend' what they've bought and 'convince' you to buy one? You know the price, you've heard from many people who own one, you've seen videos of them in action both in the field and being tested....what other numbers do you need concerning the propointer?? Let me know and I'll bust mine out and get them to you.
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DIGGER27
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If you actually read my posts in those 2 links there are plenty of reasons.
I have an F-Point and I used the Centech for 3 months before I got my first Propointer.
The F-Point is junk, and the Centech is not the highest quality either, but it was very useful and came in handy vs. what I had before which was nothing.
There is absolutely no comparison between the Propointer and those cheaper units.
It does so much more than those others and 80% of those abilities come into play BEFORE you ever dig a hole.
Anything that makes me at least 3X'S faster at retrieval, gives me an average retrieval time of about 20 seconds from the instant I acquire a signal to the moment I cover up the hole and move on, and helps me dig extremely small holes to do all that is worth it's weight in gold.
Less time in retrieval means more targets dug per hunt and in math terms that can only be a good thing.
Lots of these threads on Propointers around here, most are the same.
Hunters that have never used them can't seem to see the advantages, once they get one 99% of them kick themselves for not getting one sooner and swear they will never hunt without them again.
Not all, but most.
"I finally found the other half of my detector" is a statement that has been thrown out there a lot.
There has to be a reason why, and I put several in my posts about using it.
The disturbing fact in all of this, which bothered me some, even before I bought the ProPointer, is all the pressure and hype, to buy one (or two), every time someone new to the hobby inquires about pinpointers. Like metal detecting is a rich-boy hobby, and if $127.50 is pocket change to you, you are just going to be wasting your time. It's encouraging people, who want to get into this hobby, to spend a lot more than they really need, initially. Most of them state that they don't have the cash on hand, saving up for it, or looking for something more affordable.
The fact is, most any pinpointer on the market, will help someone find the target quicker, and retrieve it a little safer, than not using one at all. It's not absolutely necessary, but it's a pretty good idea, since where people dropped metal stuff, they also drop sharp nasty things, break bottles. Groping around in the dirt, blindly, will eventually get you cut, scraped, or poked. Not a huge heath risk, unless deep enough to make you bleed, and you don't take care of it.
People should start out in any hobby, with what they can afford, and what they need most. Upgrades and accessories come later, when the person finds their level of interest, and what tools are best suited for their condition, and fit within their budget.
I don't own a $50 digging tool myself. Could, if I wanted too, just that my $7 Fiskar's is fine in the sandy soil here in Florida. I do understand that many places have much tougher conditions, and require better tools. There really is no reason to drain your bank account, or go into debt, buying more expensive tools, than you really need, or even want.
Every time a pinpointer inquiry is made, there are a lot of obsessive comments about not being able to hunt without the ProPointer, won't hunt without it, got two, so when one is in get fixed, wasting your time without one, wasting you money on anything else... It's not just one, it's by the dozen. The hobby can still be fun and productive without any pinpointer, so why post such things? Or encourage new hobbyist to spend more than they can afford, or want to, on a tool that is more than they really need? Sure, it's a nice tool, but it's not the focus point of the hobby. Our enjoyment of metal detecting, is dictated by whether or not we bought a ProPointer.
The fact is, most any pinpointer on the market, will help someone find the target quicker, and retrieve it a little safer, than not using one at all. It's not absolutely necessary, but it's a pretty good idea, since where people dropped metal stuff, they also drop sharp nasty things, break bottles. Groping around in the dirt, blindly, will eventually get you cut, scraped, or poked. Not a huge heath risk, unless deep enough to make you bleed, and you don't take care of it.
People should start out in any hobby, with what they can afford, and what they need most. Upgrades and accessories come later, when the person finds their level of interest, and what tools are best suited for their condition, and fit within their budget.
I don't own a $50 digging tool myself. Could, if I wanted too, just that my $7 Fiskar's is fine in the sandy soil here in Florida. I do understand that many places have much tougher conditions, and require better tools. There really is no reason to drain your bank account, or go into debt, buying more expensive tools, than you really need, or even want.
Every time a pinpointer inquiry is made, there are a lot of obsessive comments about not being able to hunt without the ProPointer, won't hunt without it, got two, so when one is in get fixed, wasting your time without one, wasting you money on anything else... It's not just one, it's by the dozen. The hobby can still be fun and productive without any pinpointer, so why post such things? Or encourage new hobbyist to spend more than they can afford, or want to, on a tool that is more than they really need? Sure, it's a nice tool, but it's not the focus point of the hobby. Our enjoyment of metal detecting, is dictated by whether or not we bought a ProPointer.
robertj298
Junior Member
It must be unbearable , all these people putting a gun to your head and pressuring you to buy a pro pointer lol
I'll put my pistolprobe and screwdriver up against anybody and their propointer and lesche anyday in a coin shooting contest.I can flip a coin out of the soil in 10 seconds.I used to have a propointer.So the loser got sold.Just depends on your digging style and needs.Clad adds up the quicker you can get it out ofthe ground.I'm fixing to buy a 14" coil with clad my pistolprobe helped me pop out of the ground.If you never used a pistolprobe you can't compare a propointer as best.ome don't like the pistolprobe.I do!
I will add my humorous 2 cents. Buy a vibra-probe 580, it doesn't break 
I try to tell new people to buy one if I can, but that is just my opinion from using it. Same price as the propointer, and you don't need to have a spare for when one gets sent out to get serviced/replaced.
It all comes down to what you want to buy. I have people tell me my 580 does not compare to the Garrett. Thanks for your opinion
I decided to become better using my 580 than other are at using their propointer
It is a fun hobby for me no matter what machine I use.
btw, most of what I have just said is tongue in cheek, but the true fact is I love what I use. Everyone is free to love what THEY use
I try to tell new people to buy one if I can, but that is just my opinion from using it. Same price as the propointer, and you don't need to have a spare for when one gets sent out to get serviced/replaced. It all comes down to what you want to buy. I have people tell me my 580 does not compare to the Garrett. Thanks for your opinion
I decided to become better using my 580 than other are at using their propointer It is a fun hobby for me no matter what machine I use.
btw, most of what I have just said is tongue in cheek, but the true fact is I love what I use. Everyone is free to love what THEY use
I will add my humorous 2 cents. Buy a vibra-probe 580, it doesn't break
It all comes down to what you want to buy. I have people tell me my 580 does not compare to the Garrett. Thanks for your opinion
It is a fun hobby for me no matter what machine I use.
btw, most of what I have just said is tongue in cheek, but the true fact is I love what I use. Everyone is free to love what THEY use
Well said! Heck a screwdriver by itself works great.You'll know when you hit coinage.Carry on my brothers!
Buried
Elite Member
DIGGER27, I should always know to click links when you post things, always informative. Thank you
And thank you for the other guys with your posts.
It truly is. I'm not sure if people realize it or not, but 9 out of 10 times its pushed on new people joining this hobby, and some don't have much money to spend, especially on a pinpointer that may cost more than their machine they just bought.
I also don't understand why we can peacefully talk about metal detectors, compare features, depths, etc, but if a pin pointer thread gets started....
stewart73
Forum Supporter
Hold on a minute, weren't you the one asking to be convinced to buy one? And are you serious that "9 out of 10 times it's pushed on new people"? You gotta be kidding! This is what I mean about your threads, they just go in circles! How can we break it down any simpler? Lots of people use and recommend the propointer because they like them not because they are trying to push poor unsuspecting people into buying one!
You are free to do whatever you want, remember. Again, tell me what other stats/numbers you require concerning the propointer and I'll get them for you.
Buried
Elite Member
Hold on a minute, weren't you the one asking to be convinced to buy one? And are you serious that "9 out of 10 times it's pushed on new people"? You gotta be kidding! This is what I mean about your threads, they just go in circles! How can we break it down any simpler? Lots of people use and recommend the propointer because they like them not because they are trying to push poor unsuspecting people into buying one!
40acre1870
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6 inches is not pinpointing at all... Kind of like asking someone where something is and they tell you "over there."
