airscapes
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False halo shows up as iron in AM pinpoint mode on mine..
Garrett Pro Pointer or a Whites Bullseye TRX Pinpointer??? Which one???
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False halo shows up as iron in AM pinpoint mode on mine..
Cherry Picker
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I'm not sure what that means? I'm just saying a piece of iron that gives a false signal is never in the center of the hole for me. Unless I dig a cavern. In fact, If I get a signal that pinpoints directly in the center of the first opened ground I'm a happy camper because that usually means not iron. Iron almost always will be in the side of the freshly opened ground.
airscapes
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Guess it depends on the machine.. Iron shows as iron and negative VID on mine. If the iron has been in the ground a long time and built up a conductive halo, (see this for more on halo http://metaldetectingworld.com/halo_effect.shtml) it can produce a high VID silver signal with high tone in silent sweep mode a and if you don't have iron discriminated out, you would hear the low iron tone. When you do have it ignore iron and go to pinpoint the machine is in All Metal Pinpoint mode, the machine is still not swinging and can tell it is iron not silver.. so don't dig if you thought it was silver. If you do dig you will find a ferrous target right where you pinpoint.
papaharley03
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And FWIW, the Garrett PP has ratcheting also. Move to edge of the signal and cycle the power switch. It is now ratcheted down in sensitivity. I can also wear a hose clamp on my thumb holding the PP and super tune it for extra depth, or just lift my thumb away for normal detection depth.
My personal choice to to with Garrett is that they are within a reasonable driving distance from where I live. I won't have to pay shipping to get a defective product to them for repair.
Papa
That sounds good but it will take me a while to figure all that out. I figure mine is either working right or it isn't. Most people that have a Garret PP are not wanting to get rid of it whether or not it's doing what they want it to. Sorta like a spouse or companion.
Martin_V3i
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You and I do have that luxury ;-) I bet that's why we see so many Garretts detectors being used around here also. Makes good sense.
Yes, the propointer ratchets just as you say. I can't remember ever getting much use from the ratchet though since the basic 1.5" sensitivity range on coins comes in to play again. All it's mostly done for me is to get me to that crushed can faster, which is a plus. With the added range of the TRX, ratchet is a wonderfull feature. martin
Well went out tonight with the NEW TRX that i bought and was at first frustrated. But then again i didnt read the manual i just put the battery in and tried it out. So i did not really know what i was doing. We went out for a few hours and boy this thing can go deep. From what i figured out as the night went out on i did get better with it.
First when i was at the store and picking out i did try out the garrett there the garrett ill be honest felt more right in my hand, hat comfortable and also more heavy duty. But boy what blew me away was the cannon ball they had i could point towards it a foot away and this TRX would start to make noise.
As ive said ive never used a good pinpointer but now that ive used this TRX i would never want to go back to this fisher pinpointer. There were times the target i was digging was only down a inch and i found it with the quickness with the TRX, then there was a few times i had problems finding the target how far it wad down but most the time i had problems it was can slaw or a big piece of metal in the ground and it was hitting hard all over so since i didnt know how big the item was it was harder for me to dig it out.
Most the time i found a target it was quick to dig a quarter, or dime, or nickel even pennys. I noticed as you pointed the TRX it would make a noise but when you were right on the target it would make a louder more vibrating noise you could tell the difference.
So far i like it, but im still gotta figure out the settings. One thing i did notice this thing is sensitive, if you go to dig your hole and you have your digging tool or your metal detector close by it will make noise. I also found it was easier to find the target with the metal detector and then pinpoint it and then eye that up put the detector down and then take the TRX and goto the spot were i had it figured out at and then turn it on as im down on the ground. I had several times were it would beep beep beep but im not sure that it wasnt more user error than the TRX itself.
One thing i did like was that when i dug a plug and there was alot of items around the hole hitting i dug the solid signal and then i used the TRX to point around and dig all the other stuff out of the hole and found more coins this way and alot faster.
The best part of using a good pin pointer is that i didnt have to dig nearly as much
or big holes. Thats the biggest thing to me. Im sure the garrett works the same way but maybe not as deep as people say.
Also this thing was pretty amazing to me one hole i was diggin i dug 4-5 inches down it was a hit for a dime, and a nickel. Well i found the dime, then used the TRX to scan the hole and it was ringin some more. So i dug down some more, found some Can slaw that was big and i was having problems at first finding it, then i dug it out and scanned the hole again i was down almost 10 total inches when i got the rest of the can slaw out of this hole before the TRX stopped rining on anything. I thought that was pretty neat in itself.
As i use a F2 and i dont feel i get to go that deep when i dig stuff i just feel like i mostly find loose clad 0-4 inches for the most part. But by adding this TRX i feel i can find things deeper with it after i target something and recheck the holes.
Also as i said this thing is sensitive, when you find your object with the TRX and then go lay this down away from the hole if theres any metal in the ground when you go lay it down it will sound off and let you know lol.
After going out for around 2 1/2 hours i dug less big holes, less digging in all, and i didnt have to raise up the metal detector or get up to rescan the hole to make sure i didnt dig the target out already and then dig some more. That to me alone was worth the money i spent to have this pin pointer.
After using it for a week or so ill do a full review maybe try to get a youtube video or something up and let people know how i truly feel about this pinpointer.
As of right now it definately made most of my finds so much easier and faster to get out of the hole. AS pepole stated the garrett would help out as well making things so much easier.
First when i was at the store and picking out i did try out the garrett there the garrett ill be honest felt more right in my hand, hat comfortable and also more heavy duty. But boy what blew me away was the cannon ball they had i could point towards it a foot away and this TRX would start to make noise.
As ive said ive never used a good pinpointer but now that ive used this TRX i would never want to go back to this fisher pinpointer. There were times the target i was digging was only down a inch and i found it with the quickness with the TRX, then there was a few times i had problems finding the target how far it wad down but most the time i had problems it was can slaw or a big piece of metal in the ground and it was hitting hard all over so since i didnt know how big the item was it was harder for me to dig it out.
Most the time i found a target it was quick to dig a quarter, or dime, or nickel even pennys. I noticed as you pointed the TRX it would make a noise but when you were right on the target it would make a louder more vibrating noise you could tell the difference.
So far i like it, but im still gotta figure out the settings. One thing i did notice this thing is sensitive, if you go to dig your hole and you have your digging tool or your metal detector close by it will make noise. I also found it was easier to find the target with the metal detector and then pinpoint it and then eye that up put the detector down and then take the TRX and goto the spot were i had it figured out at and then turn it on as im down on the ground. I had several times were it would beep beep beep but im not sure that it wasnt more user error than the TRX itself.
One thing i did like was that when i dug a plug and there was alot of items around the hole hitting i dug the solid signal and then i used the TRX to point around and dig all the other stuff out of the hole and found more coins this way and alot faster.
The best part of using a good pin pointer is that i didnt have to dig nearly as much
or big holes. Thats the biggest thing to me. Im sure the garrett works the same way but maybe not as deep as people say.Also this thing was pretty amazing to me one hole i was diggin i dug 4-5 inches down it was a hit for a dime, and a nickel. Well i found the dime, then used the TRX to scan the hole and it was ringin some more. So i dug down some more, found some Can slaw that was big and i was having problems at first finding it, then i dug it out and scanned the hole again i was down almost 10 total inches when i got the rest of the can slaw out of this hole before the TRX stopped rining on anything. I thought that was pretty neat in itself.
As i use a F2 and i dont feel i get to go that deep when i dig stuff i just feel like i mostly find loose clad 0-4 inches for the most part. But by adding this TRX i feel i can find things deeper with it after i target something and recheck the holes.
Also as i said this thing is sensitive, when you find your object with the TRX and then go lay this down away from the hole if theres any metal in the ground when you go lay it down it will sound off and let you know lol.
After going out for around 2 1/2 hours i dug less big holes, less digging in all, and i didnt have to raise up the metal detector or get up to rescan the hole to make sure i didnt dig the target out already and then dig some more. That to me alone was worth the money i spent to have this pin pointer.
After using it for a week or so ill do a full review maybe try to get a youtube video or something up and let people know how i truly feel about this pinpointer.
As of right now it definately made most of my finds so much easier and faster to get out of the hole. AS pepole stated the garrett would help out as well making things so much easier.
Also wanted to say there were times that i was on top of the area were my metal detector found something and then id take the TRX down there and it would sound off on something but sometimes it wouldnt, so id just shut it off real fast and turn it on and boom it would find what my detector said was there.
this definately could just be user error on my end not knowing extacly what im doing yet as im not truly sure how to ratchet i dont even know what setting i had it on i just used it and messed around with it and things started gettin easier the more i hunted.
this definately could just be user error on my end not knowing extacly what im doing yet as im not truly sure how to ratchet i dont even know what setting i had it on i just used it and messed around with it and things started gettin easier the more i hunted.
Went out again today for about an hour and half. Hit a couple spots with the F2 and sniper coil on. Found a junk ring. Also found .79 in clad.
The TRX seems to work pretty good for me. I can most times barely dig anything and find the target in the very easily its definately made my digging less. I love the fact i find target pop the TRX down there and boom it finds it that quick. Once in awhile this thing beeps like crazy after digging or setting it down, but i just shut it off and right back on and it is fine.
Today i found a target that showed dime and i had a zinc hit. So i pinpointed and used the TRX i dug down about an inch and i was impressed that i found the time, but also found a quarter and nickel and penny right on top of each other. Then i rescanned the whole and found one more penny off to the side of the hole. That quick i had gotten all that and moved on.
So far im pretty impresed.
id like to also try the garrett someday just to compare the two.
One thing that might of helped me is that i was used to using the tip of a pinpointer already to find the target cause the fisher you have to pretty much be touching the target to find it. So i got very used to just using the tip. So that doesnt bother me.
I also see how this thing can go pretty deep one hole, found a penny and rescanned and got a hit dug down another 2-3 inches and it was can slaw but there was a penny in the side of the hole to. So it can find more stuff if you rescan the hole.
Overall impressed for only being out about 4-5 hours with it.
The TRX seems to work pretty good for me. I can most times barely dig anything and find the target in the very easily its definately made my digging less. I love the fact i find target pop the TRX down there and boom it finds it that quick. Once in awhile this thing beeps like crazy after digging or setting it down, but i just shut it off and right back on and it is fine.
Today i found a target that showed dime and i had a zinc hit. So i pinpointed and used the TRX i dug down about an inch and i was impressed that i found the time, but also found a quarter and nickel and penny right on top of each other. Then i rescanned the whole and found one more penny off to the side of the hole. That quick i had gotten all that and moved on.
So far im pretty impresed.
id like to also try the garrett someday just to compare the two.
One thing that might of helped me is that i was used to using the tip of a pinpointer already to find the target cause the fisher you have to pretty much be touching the target to find it. So i got very used to just using the tip. So that doesnt bother me.
I also see how this thing can go pretty deep one hole, found a penny and rescanned and got a hit dug down another 2-3 inches and it was can slaw but there was a penny in the side of the hole to. So it can find more stuff if you rescan the hole.
Overall impressed for only being out about 4-5 hours with it.
Martin_V3i
Elite Member
Sounds to me that you didn't ground balance the TRX. I simply touch the ground off to the side of the target, then power up with the tip on the ground.
I was cussing the first TRX I tried before getting one myself due to similar experiences. Once I got into the routine of doing a GB, I was happy. You can also touch the ground with it on and tap the on-off button once for a refreshed GB. Saves actually turning it on and off, and it resets the ratchet.
Big Boys Hobbies
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We are getting to enjoy our Whites TRX Pin Pointer. Seems to be a good quality pointer. Lots of features.
airscapes
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I posted a review on Bob BB and included a link to some photos but normally links are removed from reviews so I figured I would put them here.
Photos are:
TRX shell
TRX Guts: items to note, plastic switch cover over board mounted micro switch, Piezo sound driver at bottom of cylinder and LED at bottom of board.
Inside of shell: Hole for sound (very small) and back of rubber boot for switch
Battery holder: Holder is for AA, with 9v spacer gets flipped over as it is shorter than the AA holder
Photos are:
TRX shell
TRX Guts: items to note, plastic switch cover over board mounted micro switch, Piezo sound driver at bottom of cylinder and LED at bottom of board.
Inside of shell: Hole for sound (very small) and back of rubber boot for switch
Battery holder: Holder is for AA, with 9v spacer gets flipped over as it is shorter than the AA holder
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Martin_V3i
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No problem in real digs. You're going from turning it on and balancing it, and then in the hole. Your surface stuff like your detector only comes into play when you decide to lay the pointer down and then only if you decide to place it semi near and between the hole and other gear around the hole. As the old show HeHaw episode where the doctor was told, "It hurts when I do this" and the doc says, "Well, don't do that."
Point is, that's about the last thing I would be concerned about. Lots of simple habits takes care of this small thing. martin
One thing I must say as a negative, at least to me...the audio volume is weak unless you don't hunt with headphones. I'm constantly pulling my HPs off and that is annoying. How's your hearing? Garretts is STRONG in beeping, and that's just the way I like it. You won't find any tape over the speaker of any of my pointers. m
basstrackerman
Elite Member
Yes quite often.
airscapes
Elite Member
Only when I don't ground balance it.
airscapes
Elite Member
Only when I don't ground balance it, or it is near other targets in the ground, or within 14" of my lesche or 8" of my MD..
I sent my Garrett in for repair 2times and hardly ever use it. I know what caused the problem and I couldn't believe how it was put together. If you have one it's going to fail !!!
Chipk
Elite Member
I just bought two more Used Garretts for $70 each. I bought two ( like a backup) new ones and both were sent back for service THREE TIMES EACH. I lost one and just returned the second one last week for the third time. The used ones seem to be working fine but I am apprehensive.
When they work they are great. Too bad it's so random. WAKE UP GARRETT AND IMPROVE YOUR NOT-AT-ALL-CHEAP PINPOINTERS BEFORE NOBODY WILL BUY THEM.
XL Pro PRO
Junior Member
I bought one of the Garretts when they first came out.It was really impressive at first,but at some point the off/on switch failed and it was repaired under warranty.A couple of years ago I received another Propointer as a gift and right out of the box it would go into a constant falsing phase as in not shutting down when moving it away from the target.This was repaired under warranty and seemed to be fine for a while but here lately it has started reacting as soon as it approaches the ground and of course,the warranty has expired and I gave my older Propointer to a beginning detectorist last spring,thinking I would keep the "newer"one.I ordered a TRX today,based on the reviews that I've read.I actually like that it detects from the tip and not the entire shaft.I have noticed that I'm having to use my detector after digging my plug to locate my target.The whole purpose of a pointer is to locate and point out the target.
