Garrett Pro Pointer or a Whites Bullseye TRX Pinpointer??? Which one???

[goodmore]

Why guess where the target is? Get the TRX and know.

 

[Bigc1975]

also i keep reading some people say they dont want that deep or sensitivity that the TRX has but yet you read about all these Garrett Pro Pointer owners who have modded there pointers to go deeper. so since the TRX does that right out of the box that is another reason im kind of leaning more towards the TRX.

I mean if your trying to come up with mods to go deeper there must be a reason why you would want to go deeper. And if you can buy a pointer that will go deeper without modding it then that seems like the better route. just my thinking

 

[itsaring!]

Well the good thing is i have no allegience to either BRAND. So im just looking for a reliable good working pinpointer. At this time since ive only used a fisher brand pin pointer and have never used any other pin pointer brand name isnt a factor. A year ago hands down id be buying a garrett but since that last year now it seems im seeling lots of broken garretts and hearing horror stories of people getting there garretts replaced to only have the replacement do the samething or break down a month or so later.

I know that there is no way of knowing how well these TRX will last after using them a year or so in the dirt. But im willing to take the chance if it works right.

Im not sure if side detection on the shaft of the garrett is important or if the TRX using the tip is better. Have no clue.

One thing i hear about the TRX that im not sure on though is that it picks up your other metals you have around you alot more. So if im digging the hole and i have my detector a foot away or tool laying there its gonna pick that up to? Or am i misunderstanding this.

thanks for all your info

Do need to keep metal further away from the TRX at factory setting of 3. But you can just push the button if its bad. Also not sure if they changed it since I have one of the firsy TRx's on the market? But the TRX can side detect above the 3" mark on the side of the pinpointer. Some need side detection. I don't. With practice you can hit a coin with a screwdriver dead on after pinpointing with the TRX. I had 3 propointers. They were more chatty than my TRX. After pinpointing to get around roots with the TRX, I'd throw a temper tantrum if you told me I had to go back to a propointer. Just depends on what you like.

 

[Dougmeister]

I don't understand this "ratcheting" feature. Someone help me out?

(I already Googled it... didn't help...)

 

[itsaring!]

I don't understand this "ratcheting" feature. Someone help me out?

(I already Googled it... didn't help...)

You get closer to the target you tap the on/off button. It keeps making the pointer less sensitive to all the way where the only time the pointer goes off on is touching the target. Works real good when trying to figure out if you need to dig over or under a root, etc. Something on you setting it off like a big shovel, give it a tap. Metal slide in a tot lot same thing. You can pinpoint a coin under a metal slide and only detect the coin.

 

[airscapes]

I don't understand this "ratcheting" feature. Someone help me out?

(I already Googled it... didn't help...)

Once you get used to the proximity feature (beeps faster the closer you get) you will not use the detuning (ratchet) to much. The trick with the proximity is to slow down and move the tip around slowly to give the machine a chance to ramp up.. If you ever see the videos of the guys using the garret on TV.. NOT LIKE THAT!

You do this just like you would with your MD in poinpoint mode.. left right forward back listening to the beep speed.. fastest beep your there.. If you have to, hit the button and tune it down.. to me ratchet is like backwards proximity.. will beep slower and you will have no idea how deep it is.
The speed of beep is related to how far away you are.. I can tell coin depth by the sound of the TRX.. but once you hit the button to ratchet.. all bets are off on guessing depth.

 

[Bigc1975]

So it sounds like the guys on here that have used the TRX like it quite a bit. But the ones who have the garretts and they didnt break down like them alot to.

 

[bowwinkles]

So it sounds like the guys on here that have used the TRX like it quite a bit. But the ones who have the garretts and they didnt break down like them alot to.

I would say that both units described were very much liked while they were working but a failure or two seemed to bring on the negative out-pour posted.

 

[Bigc1975]

Well im more undecided now on what i want to get than i was the other day.

I mean most people who have garretts love them and they sound simple to use. when there working spot on they cant be beat. but they do break down and theres so many of them out there that your hearing more about the ones that have broke down.

then the TRX is so new we dont know if its gonna work for along time or start to have the same problems the garrett does.

im to the point were im about to just flip a coin lol...

i was hoping to get alot more feedback from the TRX users but since most people are still using garretts broke, or backups or sending them back thats mostly what im hearing that even with the problems people still buy them and cant live without them.

 

[beepbeepdig]

i've been using a TRX for a couple of months and love it. i haven't used a GPP so really can't provide any input on them. i decided on the TRX for a few reasons, primarily the depth and easy ratcheting, White's reputation for quality and fact that it's the newest tech available. the price difference is negligible to me.

i would recommend a TRX to anyone looking for a new pinpointer.

 

[I Dig WV]

Hey guys...or gals....hit ain't nothing but a thang...

 

[Cherry Picker]

I've owned many Garrett PP's and my buddies have them and never had a one go bad. I understand people have had them go bad but really I think the number is very very low considering the number in use.

As far as a little more about the TRX.

PROs: deepest pinpointer by far I've ever used.
Very good customization.

CONs: Having just the tip for the signal can make it tougher to quickly find a target. The target can be off to the side and unless you point directly at it you get no signal.
I feel the vibration and sound could be just a bit better.

 

[Bigc1975]

Detector- But since ive never used a garretts or anything but a fisher which you have to touch the metal with the tip. Is it really that big a deal that i will be using the tip and not the sides? I havent use anything else to compare it to so im thinking that might not be a big deal to me since i dont know what im missing to begin with.

overall you like the TRX then?

 

[Cherry Picker]

But since ive never used a garretts or anything but a fisher which you have to touch the metal with the tip. Is it really that big a deal that i will be using the tip and not the sides?

Yes I believe so. I know in my case the Garrett PP makes finding the coin much quicker than the TRX. THe TRX without a doubt goes deeper, but you must be pointing the tip directly at the target before you get a signal. That means you have to move the pointer in all directions all around the hole to make sure the tip is pointing right at the target. With the Garrett PP you just need to get the tip in the general area and it will start going off then you just move it to the strongest signal and you're at the target.

To me it's like comparing a concentric coil to a DD coil. The DD coil(Garrett) covers more area quicker, but the Concentric (Whites) goes deeper. In most cases. Also, the concentric (whites) has a smaller detection field so you have a bigger chance of missing a target. The DD (Garrett) covers more area and makes finding a target quicker.

You can't go wrong with either one!

 

[airscapes]

Detector- But since ive never used a garretts or anything but a fisher which you have to touch the metal with the tip. Is it really that big a deal that i will be using the tip and not the sides? I havent use anything else to compare it to so im thinking that might not be a big deal to me since i dont know what im missing to begin with.

overall you like the TRX then?

Several other things not mentioned lately about the TRX.
1. you don't need to worry about getting it wet. It is truly water proof to a couple of feet.
2. The guts slide out when you remove one screw inside the batter compartment so the shell can be replaced if it ever wears out.
3. I have dropped the TRX on concrete about 6 times, no issues..
4. 2 year warranty
5. Did I mention Depth..
6. Unlike the the Pro Pointer, if the coin is up to 4" deep, you can pinpoint it before you dig and it won't be in the side of the hole
7. Smaller holes can be dug for targets less than 4"
8. Clad can be popped with a prob if the are within 3" as you can pinpoint exactly. I slide the screwdriver in and tap the coin once I have located it exactly with the TRX..
9. Cost delta between the 2 is negligible
10. TRX uses 2AA batters or you can use a 9v but I don't need 9v for any of my other stuff..
11. Not sure But I believe the TRX is much lighter in weight than the PP but can not say for sure..
BTW, if you pin point with your MD properly, the main target will be at the bottom of the hole.. not the side..

 

[Cherry Picker]

BTW, if you pin point with your MD properly, the main target will be at the bottom of the hole.. not the side..

Unless it is a piece of iron false'ing. DOH!

 

[Bigc1975]

for the most part im very good at diggin the hole and the target being there, my problem is more about how deep to dig the hole. i mean when i pin point with the detector i normally either have coin in the plug or in the hole alittle bit still not on the sides that is why i was asking now bigger items im sure it will show it on the sides.

i think im gonna go with the TRX cant go wrong and if i dont like it i can always trade it for one of these garretts or sell it for what a garrett costs and buy a garrett and wont be out that much money.

thanks for all your help review will be coming soon

 

[ron_c]

11. Not sure But I believe the TRX is much lighter in weight than the PP but can not say for sure...

Weight of Garrett PP - just shy of 7 ounces.

Weight of White's TRX with AA batteries - 6 1/2 ounces.
Weight with 9V - just over 6 1/2 ounces.
(For all practical purposes same weight with AA's or 9V)

(I don't have digital readout on scale for more precise weights)

 

[Martin_V3i]

So it sounds like the guys on here that have used the TRX like it quite a bit. But the ones who have the garretts and they didnt break down like them alot to.

I already posted but if I suddenly lost both of my Garretts(2) which haven't broken down, and also lost the TRX, I would go with a TRX in replacement. There does seem to be a recent rash of Garretts failures. Many people end up with two pointers, one primary and one backup, so in time, you'll likely find a great deal on a Garretts as a backup.

I say get the TRX. I personally won't ever give up on the extra depth of the TRX. It's fun owning both the TRX and the Garretts. martin

 

[MaineHunter]

Several other things not mentioned lately about the TRX.
1. you don't need to worry about getting it wet. It is truly water proof to a couple of feet.
2. The guts slide out when you remove one screw inside the batter compartment so the shell can be replaced if it ever wears out.
3. I have dropped the TRX on concrete about 6 times, no issues..
4. 2 year warranty
5. Did I mention Depth..
6. Unlike the the Pro Pointer, if the coin is up to 4" deep, you can pinpoint it before you dig and it won't be in the side of the hole
7. Smaller holes can be dug for targets less than 4"
8. Clad can be popped with a prob if the are within 3" as you can pinpoint exactly. I slide the screwdriver in and tap the coin once I have located it exactly with the TRX..
9. Cost delta between the 2 is negligible
10. TRX uses 2AA batters or you can use a 9v but I don't need 9v for any of my other stuff..
11. Not sure But I believe the TRX is much lighter in weight than the PP but can not say for sure..
BTW, if you pin point with your MD properly, the main target will be at the bottom of the hole.. not the side..

++1!!

I have a Garrett detector and when deciding on a pinpointer the TRX did more of what I wanted it to do than the Garrett. As for a target being in the side of a hole, you can just run the tip around the sides and it will pick it up. I love the depth you get before you dig. I can pinpoint down to under an 1 1/2" square on targets 4"+ down before I start to dig.
Either one will work so it's a matter of what you want the pinpointer to do. GL HH