Curse of Oak Island TV Program

[OleSarge]

The thing I noticed when they showed the big target on the Deep Max screen was an "Fe". What makes it hard to determine any real information from what you see on TV is that many of the scenes are actually reenactments necessary due to production needs and not the actual "real" data they may have gotten by legitimate means. So what you see on the TV screen may not be the same as the data they use to make their decisions. Isn't "Reality TV" wonderful??

I saw an interview of the Diggers guys and they say this is a very common thing to do. Maybe the camera shot of the live action was blocked, bad lighting, etc and would not work for TV broadcast so it is reenacted.

Point well taken. The video has the advantage of stopping and "rewinding" the "film" to view and review something possibly missed in the actual presentation. But, I hadn't considered viewing this from your perspective though, and you have a excellent point. I suppose the time constraints, lighting, camera angles and bloopers necessitates that the events be compressed into a acceptable format and fit into alloted time frames. Heck, even at that I still enjoy it. I am curious though why they didn't find a honkin big Viking coin or even a medallion hinting at the Vikings being there. I checked ebay and, albeit, Viking coins are a little more expensive than Spanish coins, they are available

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[OleSarge]

I thought that too Phil. I figured they gave it away when they showed the display and it said FE after they had the hit in the swamp and using a full shaft when diving in shallow much with the Tesoro was weird. They seem to have forgotten that there has been major construction on the island for centuries there is bound to be tons of trash and old junk laying around. The nitrous tank was weird too. Don't they use that as a mix for deep diving? He could have used a snorkel in that place.

This is "foruming" at it's best. A tad of information can inspire even a old brain like mine to grind out new thoughts. And this is GREAT!. I noticed the nitrous tank, and to me it's more associated with high performance engines than diving, but it still seemed really weird that they have a pump capable of draining a entire swamp and having a air pump (Bering Sea Gold) capable of supporting a swamp diver in a few feet of muck wouldn't be too extravagant. Thanks for all the super input!

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[Bayoutalker]

If the diver was experienced why didn't he take out the middle piece of his Tesoro detector for diving. It looked funny in 2 ft of muck seeing the arm cuff sticking up out of the water.

Why did he belly flop into the muck?
Why was Fe in the screen when they said it wasn't iron?
Why did the dive tank say Nitrous?
phil

They said he was an experienced diver but was he experienced diving with a metal detector?? Seems the "experts" should have pointed that out though.

The "Fe" reading may be explained by my earlier post about reenacting some scenes.

It was not "Nitrous" it was "Nitrox". Nitrox is an oxygen rich air commonly used by divers to reduce the amount of nitrogen in the air they breathe. It allows longer dive times with less risk of the bends. Many if not most sport divers use it these days for all sport diving depths.

 

[rplante]

Regarding the coin, it appeared to be a Spanish 8 Real Cob and I likewise found it odd that it was found so close to the surface.

I did some checking around as I wanted to know more about Reals and found that there are many, many fakes of this particular coin floating around and offered for sale. This doesn't mean anything of course but I found it rather interesting when the first coin I found that most closely resembled the one shown in the show was indeed a Fake. It was being presented as a Fantasy cast cob.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MNS-ARGENTINA-1760-P-Fantasy-Cast-Cob-8-Reales-EF-Cf-Janson-CJ-1-2-/201034613607?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item2ece98c367

I'm not saying the one found was fake but since he was largely basing his decision on whether to continuing hunting Oak Island on this piece of evidence, I sure hope he had it authenticated. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of a plant if I had all that money riding on the decision.

 

[Detector Nut]

I was thinking the coin was planted too so older bro could sway younger bro into financing the hunt.

 

[OleSarge]

They said he was an experienced diver but was he experienced diving with a metal detector?? Seems the "experts" should have pointed that out though.
The "Fe" reading may be explained by my earlier post about reenacting some scenes.
It was not "Nitrous" it was "Nitrox". Nitrox is an oxygen rich air commonly used by divers to reduce the amount of nitrogen in the air they breathe. It allows longer dive times with less risk of the bends. Many if not most sport divers use it these days for all sport diving depths.

Bayoutalker, rplante, Detector Nut, all your posts are perceptual, applicable and very much appreciated. I just got to the computer and it's getting late, so my consolidation of all three posts into one answer shouldn't be taken as a lack of interest on my part. Bayoutalker, regardless of his level of experience diving in a swamp with a metal detector, surely he drew a premium fee for his services. The clumsy tank and overkill suit was more of a hinderance than a asset. The Nitrox, botox, or whatever he had in the tank might as well been laughing gas...pumped at the Lagina Brothers for laughing at his heels in the air escapades. I seriously doubt that any record can be found of a diver getting the bends from leaning over in three feet of muddy water, and at that, only for a couple minutes at a time. They were already muddy, had already hijacked the metal detector equipment, so why not put on swim trunks and a kiddy mask, get a hose, AKA snorkle and a free HF LED flashlight and dive themselves. rplante, the link is absolutely great. The coin they show is from Argentina, not Spain. OMG, do you think they planted a Argentina, Fake, coin and passed it off as a real Spanish treasure coin to keep the allegedly rich, but easily duped brothers on the island until their 401K's mature in 2033? Detector Nut, thanks for the post. I hope you don't mind having it included in the above post rather than having me post one of those little things.

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[Bayoutalker]

Sarge, my comments were answers to an earlier post. They were not intended to be a validation of their methods. I do agree that the dry suit was unnecessary since the others were in the water with only their clothes on. Obviously the water was not cold enough to need it. Perhaps he didn't want that nasty stuff from the marsh touching any more of his skin than necessary? I grew up in Southeast Louisiana and swimming in that type of environment was a normal thing so I certainly agree it was overkill. Scuba surely was not necessary in that shallow water. You are correct, a snorkel should have been enough. The use of Nitrox has become very common and many divers use it exclusively which may be why he was using it in such shallow water. If I were that diver I sure would not want anyone to see that performance. His credibility in the diving industry surely was not helped by this performance. I hope he got paid well. Lol

Cliff

 

[OleSarge]

Sarge, my comments were answers to an earlier post. They were not intended to be a validation of their methods. I do agree that the dry suit was unnecessary since the others were in the water with only their clothes on. Obviously the water was not cold enough to need it. Perhaps he didn't want that nasty stuff from the marsh touching any more of his skin than necessary? I grew up in Southeast Louisiana and swimming in that type of environment was a normal thing so I certainly agree it was overkill. Scuba surely was not necessary in that shallow water. You are correct, a snorkel should have been enough. The use of Nitrox has become very common and many divers use it exclusively which may be why he was using it in such shallow water. If I were that diver I sure would not want anyone to see that performance. His credibility in the diving industry surely was not helped by this performance. I hope he got paid well. Lol
Cliff

Bayoutalker, my experience in diving of any sort, scuba or otherwise is limited to a ackward plunge off the low board at the high school swimming pool when I was 15 years old. Usually, when I post a comment on the forum I don't even know what I'm going to say untill I see it on the screen. You may notice my great number of edits because when I reread something, I usually don't like what I've said. I try to be unbiased and non-opinionated when I write but sometimes my biased and opinionated character gets in the way. The comments on "The Curse" are made in the light that it is a TV program and everytime you watch it, depending on your level of attention and attitude, you'll notice something new. Really, in my life I've been in some miserable situations which I doubted would ever end. Now, here I sit at the computer, well fed and with every reason on earth to be totally content. Some of this exuberance at being alive and here leaks into my writing and may be mistaken as my copping a attitude. I appreciate your comments and always welcome another point of view on what my be my skewed perspective.

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[OleSarge]

Cliff

Bayoutalker, I noticed that you live less than 90 miles from my old stomping ground at Pasadena/LaPorte/Baytown, just outside Houston. Do you ever get down to the beaches around Corpus Christi or out around Galveston? We sat through a couple of hurricanes there and even after all these years there should be loads of debris still floating around. We were there when the VA Fogg went down and some pretty nifty floatsum showed up on the beaches for quite a while after that.

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[Bayoutalker]

Bayoutalker, I noticed that you live less than 90 miles from my old stomping ground at Pasadena/LaPorte/Baytown, just outside Houston. Do you ever get down to the beaches around Corpus Christi or out around Galveston? We sat through a couple of hurricanes there and even after all these years there should be loads of debris still floating around. We were there when the VA Fogg went down and some pretty nifty floatsum showed up on the beaches for quite a while after that.

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I get over to Galveston about once a month during the summer. With my AT Pro I was relegated to the dry sand. That is why I bought a CZ-21. It will make the drive more worthwhile. There is a lot of junk still around but most of it is just that. Lots of iron from the hurricanes and oil field for sure. I also hit the beaches across the ferry from Galveston occasionally. They get pretty crowded in the summer so I know there is some stuff there but there are several guys that hit it regularly too.

My daughter lives in Corpus Christi but the way I work I only get down there about once a year. I never have brought my MD down there but maybe next time.

 

[BBsGal]

I'm certainly no diver and do good to "dog paddle" my way to safety if I fall in the drink, but... I almost had a cow laughing when the diver flopped onto the swamp as if he was going into the ocean off the side of a boat, then just hit the mud and sort of stuck there... did you see the looks on everyone's faces when he did that? Now that was funny!

 

[Bayoutalker]

I'm certainly no diver and do good to "dog paddle" my way to safety if I fall in the drink, but... I almost had a cow laughing when the diver flopped onto the swamp as if he was going into the ocean off the side of a boat, then just hit the mud and sort of stuck there... did you see the looks on everyone's faces when he did that? Now that was funny!

Not exactly a "professional" performance for sure.

 

[pointer80]

Man, I sure hope warm weather get's here soon because I think some people are experiencing cabin fever. LOL. I guess any of them shows beat soap opera's. LOL.

 

[Bayoutalker]

Man, I sure hope warm weather get's here soon because I think some people are experiencing cabin fever. LOL. I guess any of them shows beat soap opera's. LOL.

Yep on both comments.

 

[coin whisperer]

I noticed the dirty30 taking care of business in the swamp

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[itsaring!]

They said he was an experienced diver but was he experienced diving with a metal detector?? Seems the "experts" should have pointed that out though.

The "Fe" reading may be explained by my earlier post about reenacting some scenes.

It was not "Nitrous" it was "Nitrox". Nitrox is an oxygen rich air commonly used by divers to reduce the amount of nitrogen in the air they breathe. It allows longer dive times with less risk of the bends. Many if not most sport divers use it these days for all sport diving depths.

Guy was picking up his dive gear

 

[OleSarge]

I'm certainly no diver and do good to "dog paddle" my way to safety if I fall in the drink, but... I almost had a cow laughing when the diver flopped onto the swamp as if he was going into the ocean off the side of a boat, then just hit the mud and sort of stuck there... did you see the looks on everyone's faces when he did that? Now that was funny!

Thank you BBsGal. Although I still feel weird about laughing out loud at a TV program, after reading your post I feel a little less weirder. My wife and I watch these programs together, but we have radically different senses' of humor. When the diver done the deep water plunge and the mogul made the comment about the "heels in the air" (significant to what??) I cracked up. I had forgotten she was in the room until she started and nearly fell off the couch. That only made me laugh harder and my 7UP perked out my nose. Then she started laughing and all-in-all, even if it wasn't intended as such, the deep sea dive provided a good belly laugh and was a highlight of the program.

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[OleSarge]

I get over to Galveston about once a month during the summer. With my AT Pro I was relegated to the dry sand. That is why I bought a CZ-21. It will make the drive more worthwhile. There is a lot of junk still around but most of it is just that. Lots of iron from the hurricanes and oil field for sure. I also hit the beaches across the ferry from Galveston occasionally. They get pretty crowded in the summer so I know there is some stuff there but there are several guys that hit it regularly too.
My daughter lives in Corpus Christi but the way I work I only get down there about once a year. I never have brought my MD down there but maybe next time.

My memories of Galveston and Corpus Christi are better suited as historical records rather than current events. But, when we went to Corpus Christi the beaches was super expansive and well populated by sunbathers. The neatest thing about that area, and Galveston Bay, is that you can be standing at water side fishing with your line, what appears to be anyway, miles out from the shore. When a ship moves through the intercoastal waterway the water is all sucked away from shore and your hook and bait are laying on dry sand a few hundred feet away. Wait for a few more minutes and the water comes back, and then you realize it's only a few feet deep way-way out into the bay. I'd love to do some metal detecting around Galveston. When we lived in Pasadena there were many small parks along the road to the ferry and I'll bet they are prime digging sites.

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[freflite]

Reference to paranormal

Hi guys and gals, New to this group, but have been metal detecting all over the country for 30+ years. Don't write off ALL the paranormal stuff. A vast majority, to be sure, is hocumm pocumm, but I can tell you from personal experience at least some of it is all TOO real. There's a saying I'm fond of that seems to ring true. "There are those who Have experienced the unexplained and those who will" Good digging to all and anyone in the Stockbridge GA area, I'd be interested in hunting with. Been living in the area for only about a year, but have found probably a dozen or more Civil War bullets so far.

 

[OleSarge]

Hi guys and gals, New to this group, but have been metal detecting all over the country for 30+ years. Don't write off ALL the paranormal stuff. A vast majority, to be sure, is hocumm pocumm, but I can tell you from personal experience at least some of it is all TOO real. There's a saying I'm fond of that seems to ring true. "There are those who Have experienced the unexplained and those who will" Good digging to all and anyone in the Stockbridge GA area, I'd be interested in hunting with. Been living in the area for only about a year, but have found probably a dozen or more Civil War bullets so far.

Hi freflite, welcome to the forum. As you cruise around the Metal Detecting Forums, you may want to stop in the "General Hobby Discussion" and introduce yourself then hit the "looking for buddy's forum" and let folks know your availablefor some great digs in Stockbridge. Congrats on your awsome civil war bullet finds. I'm sure others would like to hear about and see photos of them on the "relic hunters" and other forums devoted to showing our eye popping finds. Now, about the paranormal hocumm pocumm surrounding the Curse of Oak Island program. Granted, the title of the program reeks of unexplained things, mainly a long buried treasure, placed by a long lost hoard for purposes long lost to memories. Actually, this thread was began to talk about the treasure hunting aspect of the program and the episodes which included the use of metal detecting equipment and treasure hunting techniques. The FMDF Moderators have been very tolerant so far of our meandering all over topic boundaries on this thread, but ocassionally we do stray back to the topic of metal detecting....But it's all in fun and fellowship....Again welcome to the forum and thanks for your post.

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