Cracking the code Deus V4

[Rattlehead]

It could have been skewed by tiny iron particles like you said. I'd be interested in those XY tests if you do them.


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[5 mile]

Thats some old ground your on there tnss, lots of history. Hopefully today charge the deus up and d/l V4, appears the bugs have been worked out, at least the blatant ones anyway.

 

[Chucktin]

Mind if I ask a question?
I see a lot of double commas in tnsharpshooter's posts. Seems very odd to me. What is causing this?

 

[remmy]

Mind if I ask a question?
I see a lot of double commas in tnsharpshooter's posts. Seems very odd to me. What is causing this?

Pressing the comma key more than once could possibly cause this.
I believe it is intentional as when reading his posts it puts a substantial pause allowing you to digest the wealth of information that he graciously posted to help so many folks.

 

[Chucktin]

I appreciate everything I read here. Fascinating to be sure. Some are puzzling and the double commas do that twice.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

More info V4.

Seems disc setting for breaking nail unchanged from V3.2.
A setting of approx 6 is good here.

Did some checks comparing GB when changing freqs.
Ground minerals here 5 ticks in the meter.

Changing freqs and performing pumping GB over same spot of ground,,,it seems ground phase number will increase one point every time you go down freq wise starting with 18khz.

Test garden results in this same soil,,,indicate to ascertain goodsignal on clad dime at 8" deep,,ground balance very unforgiving,,meaning can be run even at 90 (where this ground reads approx 77 depending on freq used).
To go deeper,,GB more critical,,some test even running 4 points too high,,comprosmied targets being detected at distance over 9" deep.

Deus V4,,based on some more hunting,,,hotter than pistol on lower conductors,,and smaller higher conductors,,,even in carpet of nails.

I seem to be able to smoke out some finds in carpets of nails using V4 reactvity 2.5,,where V3.2 Uaing either reactvity 2 or 3 just wouldn't.

Xy screen data is useful,,especially for a beginner detectorist or even an experienced detectorist new to Deus.

Targets swept that are mixed conductivity,,like even a tab and a dime,,tone will if listened to can indicate this,,,but XY screen,,if folks will watch,,they will see a pattern of lines trying to slightly crisscross when the comingled setups are swept. Depth here can be a factor for more accurate assessment,,the deeper the less accurate or indicative it is when when watching sy screen.

Using 8khz will bring some nance tone wise to some nuasiance targets,,like twist caps,,better be on your game here listening,,,,smashed caps still sound awfully good.

Also,,doing test on top of the ground,,based on what I see,,,these test for whatever reason are not as indicative of what I'm seeing in real world of hunting using V4 in carpets of nails.

I see far less difference in how Deus V4 responds now to irregular shaped targets especially lower conductors vs V3.2. All nonferrous now more on the same playing field using V4 for detection no matter the shape.

Still looks like disc level -2.5 is a good setting to run,,when hunting in areas using full tones with loads of ferrous.
I did do a couple checks lowering disc to - 6.4,,,I sure didn't like what I saw (nail above clad dime, 3D scenario).

I haven't compared V4's ability to provide TID at depth vs 3.2.,, but in my test garden,,I see no clues telling me V4 is better in this department vs 3.2.

 

[5 mile]

First run at V4, I know I need more time with it. I just used it in my yard which I have pounded with V3.2.

I noticed also that targets hit harder audio wise. I did sneak out a 1919s penny and a few small 22 shells, that's what caught my attention...how the 22's sounded, where I may have missed with V3.2.

22's aren't desirable, but the sound was different, more pronounced. Smaller/deeper targets are more "alive".

 

[tnsharpshooter]

First run at V4, I know I need more time with it. I just used it in my yard which I have pounded with V3.2.

I noticed also that targets hit harder audio wise. I did sneak out a 1919s penny and a few small 22 shells, that's what caught my attention...how the 22's sounded, where I may have missed with V3.2.

22's aren't desirable, but the sound was different, more pronounced. Smaller/deeper targets are more "alive".

Righto on the "alive" part.
More zippy sound too.
More alerting???

Some targets,,with the way they sound,,depth wise you'll think they are either bigger but shallower or shallower and smaller ,,,and it will turn out the targets either even smaller than you thought shallow,,,or bigger and be deeper than you thought.
Will take some getting use to,

 

[5 mile]

BINGO tnss! You were the first one that noticed that, I did too.

 

[5 mile]

After being in part of my yard (the part riddles w/iron) I can see how the 9" coil would be better, but now that these other (smaller HF) coils are out, not sure if Id be better off with one of those.

Arent those geared more toward high mineral soil or gold seeking?

My hunting is usually plowed fields, permission house sites, once in awhile a park.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

After being in part of my yard (the part riddles w/iron) I can see how the 9" coil would be better, but now that these other (smaller HF) coils are out, not sure if Id be better off with one of those.

Arent those geared more toward high mineral soil or gold seeking?

My hunting is usually plowed fields, permission house sites, once in awhile a park.

Well,,,if the HF coils can be used to unmasked at levels above V4 using older 9" coil,,I am all in!!!
If not,,I'm passing.

I may buy a whole new Deus setup.
I wonder if a Deus can be bought with the HF coil as a package??
And since Craig is a Deus dealer,,,can you get batteries for components and kits to do coil battery changes??

 

[detectingMO]

Mind if I ask a question?
I see a lot of double commas in tnsharpshooter's posts. Seems very odd to me. What is causing this?

It's a Keith Soutern dialect. Commas instead of periods.

http://www.dankowskidetectors.com/discussions/read.php?2,123252,123714#msg-123714

 

[tnsharpshooter]

It's a Keith Soutern dialect. Commas instead of periods.

http://www.dankowskidetectors.com/discussions/read.php?2,123252,123714#msg-123714

If folks don't like my post and don't want to read,,,OK by me.
Tell you what though,,smart money is on reading them.

If folks new how many hours,,and even in controlled settings,,,to get info worthy to post to shed light on the ins and outs,,what ifs,,whatever's,,,,would take a loooonnnng time for a weekend warrior detectorists to get.
Your choice though.

This response not aimed at you Craig.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Time for a little story here.

I go detecting every so often with a couple gents.
Now where I spend a lot of time with a detector,,not what you call productive grounds as far as finds go.
But these areas I do spend a lot of time in tell me whole lot about detecting,,how different detectors work,,their strengths and weaknesses,,,plus hunting in these sites is very challenging.

So,,when these 2 gents ask me to go detecting to a place,,,usually it is a place they have already been,,,not like they would take me to a what they think is a cherry site.

This next info not meant to be bragging,,,but to prove a point.
When I do go with these gents,,,remember here in my neck of the woods,,any hunt where even only one silver coin materializes-- labeled as a great hunt.

So these 2 gents,,,every single time I go with each or both of them,,I most times,,snag a silver,,at least one.

These 2 gents realize where I hunt (they call these places I hunt junk piles),,and they can't figure out how I seem to be more successful than they are.

Wonder how come??

When I go detecting with them,,these sites are like shooting fish out of a barrel,,,compared to what I generally hunt.
Too easy it seems.

But you see,,these 2 gents would 't get caught dead hunting where I generally do.

So practice it seems does make perfect,,,the ole addage

Sorta like training for the olympics,,you want to run a fast mile,,,try training to run a faster 2 miles.

All the squeaks,,this and that when hunting challenging sites,,,,you keep doing this,,,in the end,,it will make you a better detectorist.

I think my time hunting with these 2 gents,,proves it.

Maybe I'm wrong.
But I Do enjoy the results when I go with them detecting.

 

[5 mile]

Good moral to the story.

Like running an obstacle course with blindfolds on, then someone says your free to run unimpeded in a straight line, probably seems easy peasy.

 

[detectingMO]

Well,,,if the HF coils can be used to unmasked at levels above V4 using older 9" coil,,I am all in!!!
If not,,I'm passing.

I may buy a whole new Deus setup.
I wonder if a Deus can be bought with the HF coil as a package??
And since Craig is a Deus dealer,,,can you get batteries for components and kits to do coil battery changes??

Not yet on both questions.

 

[5 mile]

One thing to be mindful of, after running deep program for abt 1.5hrs, I noticed coil battery ticked down a notch.

I remember someone else mentioning coil bat drain. Stock deep program puts TX to 3. Locked in, non-adjustable. They should've let us change that if desired.

I think I may load a similar program, call it "my deep" or something and keep the TX at 2.

Another good thing to carry might be a portable rechargeable battery pack and USB cord.

 

[jadocs]

One thing to be mindful of, after running deep program for abt 1.5hrs, I noticed coil battery ticked down a notch.



I remember someone else mentioning coil bat drain. Stock deep program puts TX to 3. Locked in, non-adjustable. They should've let us change that if desired.



I think I may load a similar program, call it "my deep" or something and keep the TX at 2.



Another good thing to carry might be a portable rechargeable battery pack and USB cord.

That's a good idea with saving your variation of deep. Here is what I do for extended hunts.

I also have one of those USB phone chargers I can bring.

 

[5 mile]

Or on those extended hunts..(where theres so much silver and gold) you could charge all 3 plus your cell phone if needed. 5200 mAh or higher

 

[remmy]

One thing to be mindful of, after running deep program for abt 1.5hrs, I noticed coil battery ticked down a notch.

I remember someone else mentioning coil bat drain. Stock deep program puts TX to 3. Locked in, non-adjustable. They should've let us change that if desired.

I think I may load a similar program, call it "my deep" or something and keep the TX at 2.

Another good thing to carry might be a portable rechargeable battery pack and USB cord.

Too late, I just did that and called mine "my deep", call yours "your deep"