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Old 07-12-2019, 12:49 PM
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Default Cob in California

I realize that cobs are a "dime a dozen" on the east coast. Yet extremely rare on the west coast . After 40+ years of this (started in 1976-ish), I finally got my first cob.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last countries to ever make cob style coins (versus "milled" style coins), were phasing them out in the 1740s to 1750s ? Another source I'm looking at says perhaps a final country or two had made that style up to perhaps the 1760s or even 1770s ?

But suffice it to say, very rare for CA. Which didn't even have a permanent European toe-hold till 1769 at the earliest. (Hence, not counting explorer stops.) And realistically speaking, the entire alta CA population of Europeans (non Indians) was still perhaps less than 1000 persons, prior to 1800-ish.

So while we do find reales here (rancho sites, travel stop sites, gold rush sites, etc...) those would tend to be those minted/circulated into the 1830s to 1850s, for example. So as you can see, it would be a needle in a hay-stack, date-wise, to get a cob minted, circulated, and brought to CA, at any sort of site you can think to be md'ing at.

A friend of mine found one on a beach, after severe storm erosion, near Carmel Mission in CA . That location dates to 1771 at the earliest. We have every reason to believe that was a period loss. But outside of that one, I know of only a few rumors of other cobs found in CA . Not counting jewelry (bezel mounted, or whatever).

I found this cob a few days ago. At a site that is under 1/2 mile of a location that had mid 1770s coming & goings. A little community associated with one of the nearby missions. However, that was not the reason we were hunting the site. The exact location is now nothing but urban sprawl. And we were there doing some "old town demolition hunting". Not expecting any coins this old.

Other coins that are surfacing for my buddies and I, have been 1839, at the earliest. Those include an 1839 seated dime, an 1849 Mexican reale, a large cent (1840s), etc..... And some other later seateds, scores of barber dimes, 100's of wheaties, V's, mercs, etc..... So the cob was a real fluke !

While I know it is real, yet I'm almost tempted to say it's a more contemporary curiosity pocket piece loss. The zone I found at it, was riddled with 1940s/50s wheaties, and some barbers at the oldest. However, I can not rule out a "period-loss". Since, as I say, we are under 1/2 mile from a point where settlers were known to be stopping at, as early as mid 1770s. *Technically* there is nothing to have stopped a cob from being in circulation as late as the 1770s, and getting up to alta Ca.

But very much a fluke. I have found over 100 reales here in CA. And a buddy of mine = north of 200 reales. And we've each been in locations dating to the 1770s influence. Yet .... never a cob between us. Some of our milled reales, mind you, have dated to the 1740 and 1750s. Meaning 30+ yrs. circulation before arriving here. It just stood to reason, because by the 1770s, cobs would have been pretty much petering out of circulation, eh ?
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Old 07-12-2019, 12:52 PM
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As you can see, all the other coins are ... at oldest .... turn of century losses , at this site, for me. I was only there @ one of the hunts so far. But my buddies, who have made the trek several times now, have many more barbers, and a smattering of seateds. And ... as said ... an 1849 Mexican Real and a large cent (1840s, I believe).

I'll post more pix, to include my buddy's pix, in the days/weeks to come.
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Old 07-12-2019, 12:57 PM
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Nice. Looks like a mid 18th century example from Potosi. They made cobs well into the 18th century there. Mexico stopped around 1733. Ive found a dozen cobs but far from a dime a dozen lol

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Old 07-12-2019, 01:11 PM
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I'll say, you don't post finds very often, but when you do.....look out! Whether older finds are period drops or not is always interesting to ponder!

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Old 07-12-2019, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Toasted View post
.... Ive found a dozen cobs ...
Sick sick sick

Originally Posted by ToySoldier View post
I'll say, you don't post finds very often, but when you do.....look out! ...
Yeah, I know, some folks post their show & tell from every single hunt. Normal silver, regular gold rings, etc... ( heck, some even post their clad hunt tallies). That's fine. But for me, I don't post unless it's something like a gold coin, or very rare numismatic, or bucket-lister rare thing, etc...
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Old 07-12-2019, 02:07 PM
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No way you found that with that old turd Explorer...

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Old 07-12-2019, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by IDXMonster View post
No way you found that with that old turd Explorer...
Yup. My hunting partner has been poking fun at me for awhile now. Calling it a "tank" (compared to today's light-weight star trek models !).
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Old 07-12-2019, 02:59 PM
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Very nice find Tom even if it was a more modern drop but hard to determine when it was lost.

Maybe there's a LC or two at that site.
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA View post
Yup. My hunting partner has been poking fun at me for awhile now. Calling it a "tank" (compared to today's light-weight star trek models !).
Hey! The modern ones are Star Wars new, not old like star trek

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Old 07-12-2019, 05:48 PM
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OMG you got two?

Congrats again.

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Old 07-12-2019, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GroundSweeper View post
OMG you got two? ....
Huh ? Just one. That's a front and back pix of the same coin/cob.
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Old 07-12-2019, 06:30 PM
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That is an awesome find from California. Congrats!

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Old 07-12-2019, 06:46 PM
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Wow! Congrats, Tom, on the elusive cob coin, and the rest of the awesome haul! I doubt those are any more common in the Midwest/Wisconsin either.
But now you posted it, so some East Coaster is gonna claim 30%. I bet they accept Paypal too.
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Awesome find. Congrats.

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Old 07-12-2019, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Foragist View post
.... But now you posted it, so some East Coaster is gonna claim 30%. I bet they accept Paypal too.
OOOoooohhhh, I'll bet I had that coming, eh ? All my ribbing about us not allowing our key date S mints east of the Mississippi ?? You got me !!
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Old 07-12-2019, 09:04 PM
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Just want to know how far east is California's borders? And which guy sold you that coin? Fantastic dig Tom and a true West coast bucketlister. After over 40 years in this hobby Tom you have earned this reward. Huge congrats! Trapper

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Old 07-12-2019, 09:51 PM
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Congratulations Tom!
I'm surprised you still have a bucket list, what else could be on it?

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Old 07-12-2019, 10:30 PM
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west coast lies i tell ya who sent that to you tom greta finds buddy cob is awesome

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Old 07-12-2019, 10:50 PM
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Congrats Tom. Those are some really sweet finds!

Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA View post
But very much a fluke. I have found over 100 reales here in CA. And a buddy of mine = north of 200 reales.
Can I get on the mailing list, too? JK.

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