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Interesting. Another rechargeable metal detector to check out. And this one has a Gyro Sensor! Apparently these rechargeable detectors are suppose to be "greener" but I don't believe it.
 
oldkoot said:
What is a Gyro sensor LOL
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Seems gimmicky...apparently the gyro sensor will activate a power saving mode on the detector if no motion is sensed for 5 seconds, and the machine will automatically sense when you are doing a ground balance pump (saving the herculean effort of moving your finger for a button push). Meh.

Also seems to be claiming to improve target ID stability by sensing swing speed and angle and incorporating that into the processing of the target response...that much is actually a mildly interesting concept, but may be rife with error in a target rich environment.
 
AirmetTango said:
Seems gimmicky...apparently the gyro sensor will activate a power saving mode on the detector if no motion is sensed for 5 seconds, and the machine will automatically sense when you are doing a ground balance pump (saving the herculean effort of moving your finger for a button push). Meh.

Also seems to be claiming to improve target ID stability by sensing swing speed and angle and incorporating that into the processing of the target response...that much is actually a mildly interesting concept, but may be rife with error in a target rich environment.
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Have been reading about the Gyro Sensor seems they are in all kinds of tech things now TV remotes and other things kind of neat as to what a Gyro Sensor does, it is not just a gimmick, like I said they are in all kinds of tech now, which was surprising I had never even heard of a gyro sensor
 
oldkoot said:
Have been reading about the Gyro Sensor seems they are in all kinds of tech things now TV remotes and other things kind of neat as to what a Gyro Sensor does, it is not just a gimmick, like I said they are in all kinds of tech now, which was surprising I had never even heard of a gyro sensor
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Oh, don’t get me wrong, I understand gyro sensors have been around for decades in all kinds of electronic equipment and can be fantastic additions. I just meant “gimmicky” in this case from the standpoint of “limited in usefulness”. Just my opinion without having used this particular machine, of course. For example, I just don’t see the need to have my machine switch to a “power save” mode after 5 seconds of inactivity. To me, it’s kind of like the new cars that shut off every time you’re stopped at a stop sign for a few seconds, then restarts when your foot comes off the brake…just a pain in the rear that cuts into my ability to accelerate (sometimes to the detriment of safety) for a minuscule savings in gas and pollution. Same for ground balance mode activating automatically by pumping the coil. I actually prefer the idea of directly controlling GB mode by pushing a button, so I know it’s only being activated when I want it. Pushing a button isn’t hard…the gyro sensor isn’t really saving any real effort.

ID stabilization via the gyro sensor legitimately looks interesting, though, if it’s truly effective and doesn’t become too much of a liability in target rich or trashy ground.
 
Here's my 2 cents on the gyro:

Quest management: Put something in this detector that will make it stand out from the other SMF manufacturers.

Quest engineering: We've got nothing. Those other !*!!**!! already thought of everything useful.

Quest management: Well if you've got nothing useful, then think of something useless that sounds high tech.

Quest engineering: (jokingly) How about a gyro?

Quest management: Do it!!!
 
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AirmetTango said:
Oh, don’t get me wrong, I understand gyro sensors have been around for decades in all kinds of electronic equipment and can be fantastic additions. I just meant “gimmicky” in this case from the standpoint of “limited in usefulness”. Just my opinion without having used this particular machine, of course. For example, I just don’t see the need to have my machine switch to a “power save” mode after 5 seconds of inactivity. To me, it’s kind of like the new cars that shut off every time you’re stopped at a stop sign for a few seconds, then restarts when your foot comes off the brake…just a pain in the rear that cuts into my ability to accelerate (sometimes to the detriment of safety) for a minuscule savings in gas and pollution. Same for ground balance mode activating automatically by pumping the coil. I actually prefer the idea of directly controlling GB mode by pushing a button, so I know it’s only being activated when I want it. Pushing a button isn’t hard…the gyro sensor isn’t really saving any real effort.

ID stabilization via the gyro sensor legitimately looks interesting, though, if it’s truly effective and doesn’t become too much of a liability in target rich or trashy ground.
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yep I have one of those stupid cars that shuts down at stop signs and stop lights but luckily the one I own they put a button in it to de activate that so called accessory, I also did a test to see how much fuel the start stop feature save and found out it does not save any fuel at all in fact it burns more fuel because of having to restart, when running with the start stop feature my car would get 23 miles per gallon with the start stop feature de activated I get 33 miles per gallon and that is not by looking at a stupid mileage gauge that is calculating it by dividing the number of miles by the gallons of gas it took to fill up, needless to say I no longer use that stupid feature they put on that car, the other feature I do not like is the push button start where you no longer use a key to start your car you carry a stupid fob in your pocket and all you have to do is touch the door handle and it unlocks as long as you have that fob in your pocket
 
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AirmetTango said:
ID stabilization via the gyro sensor legitimately looks interesting, though, if it’s truly effective and doesn’t become too much of a liability in target rich or trashy ground.
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Hi AT.

I could be wrong, but I don't think the ID stabilization has anything to do with the gyro. I think the ID stabilization is for when you have 3 or more ID's appearing that are close together, it averages them out and gives you one ID. Well, no matter how it's achieved, I don't want anything averaging my IDs.
 
Digalicious said:
Hi AT.

I could be wrong, but I don't think the ID stabilization has anything to do with the gyro. I think the ID stabilization is for when you have 3 or more ID's appearing that are close together, it averages them out and gives you one ID. Well, no matter how it's achieved, I don't want anything averaging my IDs.
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the way I read it the Gyro does have something to do with target ID stabilization but I could be reading it wrong though who know
 
oldkoot said:
the way I read it the Gyro does have something to do with target ID stabilization but I could be reading it wrong though who know
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If it does use a gyro for ID stabilization, then I'd say it's a gimmick for two reasons:

1) There shouldn't be any need to use a moving mechanical device (a gyro) to stabilize the ID. It can be done much more easily and much more reliably with software. For example, a line of code can be written that basically says, "If three or four consecutive ID numbers are detected within 1 1/10th of a second, then average them and produce one ID.

2) Averaging the ID (which I believe is what it does) is "dumbing down" the ID. In other words, less information about the target.
 
Are these Metal Detectors something you guys are interested in learning more about? I am thinking about doing a Product Review on the Quest X10 Pro which is their $199.99 options, and also their Quest V80 which is their unit that cost $699.99 - $799.99, they also have a Quest V60 for $599.99 but I'm not sure if they are willing to send all 3 or not. As of right now We're just discussing the two first mentioned IE: the Quest X10 Pro for $199.99 and the Quest V80 for $799.99. I'm actually pretty stoked and trying these guys out since I've never heard of the brand Quest before until about 6 months ago. They also offer a Pinpointer for $129.99 which I'm not sure if th3y will send that or not but I will definitely keep everyone updated. They seem to have some pretty nice features and I am pretty excited to see what they offer at those two different price rags, basically we would be putting the $199.99 up against maybe the Simplex? Or u guys that's that a unfair match-up? Not sure what to match the $199.99 unit against, maybe the Minelab Vanquish? And putting the Quest V80, $799.99 unit up against the Minelab Equinox 600?

Let me know what you guys think, Thanks.
Rich (Locozilla)
 
Digalicious said:
Hi AT.

I could be wrong, but I don't think the ID stabilization has anything to do with the gyro. I think the ID stabilization is for when you have 3 or more ID's appearing that are close together, it averages them out and gives you one ID. Well, no matter how it's achieved, I don't want anything averaging my IDs.
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If you like it or not most detectors will average the ID numbers if you have more than one target under the coil. There is nothing that you can do about it.
 
graybeard said:
If you like it or not most detectors will average the ID numbers if you have more than one target under the coil. There is nothing that you can do about it.
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Yes, but that's not the averaging that I'm referring to:)

I'm referring to a single complex target that produces multiple ID numbers. For example, an asymmetrical object like an angled pulltab which can give multiple ID numbers.
 
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