The only "monkey wrench" I see Minelab throwing into the battery situation is that they may use proprietary connectors for the battery to control unit connection. Other than that, the battery itself should be easily attainable online.
Eq battery replacement
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I wonder if these would work?
https://www.amazon.com/EBL-26650-5000mAh-Rechargeable-Batteries/dp/B01K7DXOMK
I found the name of the company that makes the battery but they do not have the battery listed on their website.
https://www.amazon.com/EBL-26650-5000mAh-Rechargeable-Batteries/dp/B01K7DXOMK
I found the name of the company that makes the battery but they do not have the battery listed on their website.
AirmetTango
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Nice find, but I doubt it...the link that jl252 provided shows the battery pack utilizing either a 2 or 3 pin battery connector. Unless you could rig the batteries you found with that sort of connection, it likely wouldn’t work - it also might not fit in the compartment?
DIGGER27
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Rigging...it's called soldering, pretty simple to do with any common sense.
The batteries cost $10-15 online.
I have some experience with batteries like these, the battery should last a very long time so I am not concerned.
If one day the battery does go bad and Minelab wants me to send in the thing in to replace the battery, AND if they want to overcharge me to do it well...that ain't gonna happen.
Minlooker
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Can anyone post a picture of the battery the next time you remove it ? Connections shown and rateing also.
No reason that battery wouldn't work - as long as it fits. From the pictures I've seen, however, the ML battery has 3 connections. I suspect the battery they provide has a temperature sensor in it. I'd remove it from the old battery and put it on the new.
No way ML is getting $200+ from me to replace that battery! I'd run the detector with external power first.
AirmetTango
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Sorry for my imprecise terminology. I often use the word “rig” to mean that I’ve modified something from its original form to suit a need - but I often forget the word has a negative connotation. It’s another area where I lack common sense.
I’m not skilled at soldering - just something I never had occasion to properly learn - so I’ll leave the battery modifications to those with more common sense than me. I suspect that any soldered joint I attempt to create on an electrical device would be of lower quality than even the poor welds seen on Chinese knockoff electronics
To be honest, the lack of clarity from Minelab about the cost and ability to replace the battery was one of several reasons I held off on buying the Equinox for over a year. All that said, I’m comfortable betting that by the time I need to replace the battery in my EQ800, others will have already crossed that bridge and we’ll have a solid idea of what the options and cost really are rather than speculate.
Those 26650 will work in Equinox. You have to de-solder the connector from the old battery and resolder onto the new battery, or find the replacement connector.
DIGGER27
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Sorry for my imprecise terminology. I often use the word “rig” to mean that I’ve modified something from its original form to suit a need - but I often forget the word has a negative connotation. It’s another area where I lack common sense.
I’m not skilled at soldering - just something I never had occasion to properly learn - so I’ll leave the battery modifications to those with more common sense than me. I suspect that any soldered joint I attempt to create on an electrical device would be of lower quality than even the poor welds seen on Chinese knockoff electronics
To be honest, the lack of clarity from Minelab about the cost and ability to replace the battery was one of several reasons I held off on buying the Equinox for over a year. All that said, I’m comfortable betting that by the time I need to replace the battery in my EQ800, others will have already crossed that bridge and we’ll have a solid idea of what the options and cost really are rather than speculate.
On these type of batteries they can usually be charged/recycled somewhere between 2-300 times before they need replacing, multiply that by the amount of hours you get on a charge and it will be a few years before we even need to start worrying about it.
You are right, when the time comes I am sure there will be at least one if not more easy solutions to battery replacements.
Replacement drop in batteries sold by dealers from Minelab with the connection already attached in the future isn't out of the question in my mind.
Like I said, I ain't worrying about it just yet.
The connector has three wires which would indicate it has a balance lead commonly used in RC battery packs larger than one cell. Its a way for the charger to make sure each cell is equally charged. I dont know why or how it would be used in a one cell pack other than to determine the exact capacity and fill rate, etc.
I could be wrong, but thats what it looks like to me.
I could be wrong, but thats what it looks like to me.
There are pics of the battery removed on some sites. Dont want to link because not sure if its ok.
If you search you can find the pics.
That would be correct in my opinion. I have been running 1/10th scale RCs for many years and since that battery in the Equinox is not removed for charging, it makes sense that the balance wire would already be incorporated in with the positive and negative wires.
pryan67
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Martin_V3i
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"the link that jl252 provided shows the battery pack utilizing either a 2 or 3 pin battery connector.'
This is exactly the gotcha. The actual actual battery itself is common. We need a vid showing the wiring conversion for the 3-wire transfer. I've searched and searched. Those instructions aren't any place unless I missed it. I can solder well but I need to see the details.
It wouldnt be too hard to remove the shrink wrap on the battery to see how its wired. Its weird that its a single cell 3.7v battery and has a 3-wire lead. Normally only 2 cell or larger use balance leads. Must be a proprietary use, maybe a temp probe or something.
mascard1
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Minelab
There a page on the Minelab site .. that shows all about battery replacement..
There a page on the Minelab site .. that shows all about battery replacement..
https://parts.minelab.com/category-s/270.htm
Yep, but thats just the procedure for swapping in a new ML battery. What is being discussed is purchasing a non ML battery and wiring it ourselves.
Yep, but thats just the procedure for swapping in a new ML battery. What is being discussed is purchasing a non ML battery and wiring it ourselves.
stetam
Elite Member
Battery related question here. Should you ever allow the Nox battery to run really low before recharging or is there no benefit to doing that? I know Li-Lion batteries should not suffer from battery memory but just curious.
Steve
Steve
Martin_V3i
Elite Member
Did I miss where ML lists their battery and price? As far as peeling back the shell, I'll wait till somebody posts a video including that experience. Seems like there'd be a vid by now. Thanks.
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