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River gun recommendations

i personally never would allow a handgun to get that dirty. An auto is a lot easier to disassemble than a revolver as far as that goes. If you can't hit a snake with a handgun you need more practice. Handgun loads are sealed better than a shotgun round. If you want something that will shoot in about any condition go with my favorite, the old government 1911 .45. They are larger but I have never noticed the weight when wearing one. I think you would have a hard time finding one for $500 though.
 
Silversmith45 said:
i personally never would allow a handgun to get that dirty. An auto is a lot easier to disassemble than a revolver as far as that goes. If you can't hit a snake with a handgun you need more practice. Handgun loads are sealed better than a shotgun round. If you want something that will shoot in about any condition go with my favorite, the old government 1911 .45. They are larger but I have never noticed the weight when wearing one. I think you would have a hard time finding one for $500 though.
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I like the 1911 too...you can get a Taurus for just under 500
 
pryan67 said:
I like the 1911 too...you can get a Taurus for just under 500
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At one time Taurus was junk. After buying a lot of old S&W machinery their quality really improved. They have some nice handguns on the market these days. I grew up when Colt 1911s could be had for a hundred dollars. Some custom models I bought for $150 couldn't be touched for $2000 now. If I still had them I would be rich. I think that everyone is worth at least ten times what I sold them for. At least I bought some nice detectors back them.
 
Silversmith45 said:
At one time Taurus was junk. After buying a lot of old S&W machinery their quality really improved. They have some nice handguns on the market these days. I grew up when Colt 1911s could be had for a hundred dollars. Some custom models I bought for $150 couldn't be touched for $2000 now. If I still had them I would be rich. I think that everyone is worth at least ten times what I sold them for. At least I bought some nice detectors back them.
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A friend of mine (two actually) have the Taurus "clones" of the Beretta 92...they're fine weapons....I have a 92fs (unless it falls off a boat :) )
 
I love my Beretta Nano 9mm. It’s light, compact and crazy accurate...
 

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hi-point,,,, okay, i know they get badmouthed, but they are cheap, and tough, and will continue to operate even after dunks in water covered in goopy mud. most accurate or fanciest gun in the world ,well no. But, at personal protection range they will more than get the job done. like a ak47 of handguns they do not have super tight tolerances meaning they operate just fine with some grit or crud in the system. ugly as sin though. and if ya lose it your only out 150 bucks,lol. don't believe me just hit up youtube and watch some testing and trials done on them, and no way would i carry a nice gun when it is going to get abused.
 
fwiw, I watched a Hi Point 9mm go 13 clicks or more of the trigger between bangs multiple times. And this was after it had made 2 trips to the factory already. I advised the guy to file off the firing pin and toss it out the window at the closest housing project.
DO NOT trust your life to questionable tools.
 
Thanks for the replies, you all gave me a lot to think about. I've got a chest carry fly fishing pouch, that's weatherproof not waterproof that would only get wet if I fall in. I'm thinking that and a ziplock may be the way to go.

I am a fan of the 1911. I carried one in the army. I fired thousand of rounds with out any problem and I can't recall any of my fellow soldiers having any problems. I remember the old guys talking about finding them buried in the mud of Vietnam still in great condition. Army should have kept them. They are just to big and heavy for me to conceal carry.

I'm leaning towards a lightweight stainless 38 revolver. probably a Taurus or Charter Arms.
 
Taurus better than Charter Arms and that's all I'll say about that.

Go with a smaller 1911 if you like those. Rock Is have some reasonably priced ones. Go used.
 
Charter Arms is Made in the USA right down the road from you...I've got a pair of the SS light alloy .38 special+P wheelies...Nothing fancy but simple and dependable....Life time warrantee, you can call them and get a real person on the line even...They actually fit a guy real good in an ankle or shoulder or belt holster rig...a guy can forget they are packing...downrange they will put them all in a 3x5 file card at 25' with a little practice...good enough for me...

thinking about rigging up a holster for the top of my detector, right under the elbow cuff...like a counterbalance or pinpointer sort of...easy peasy and fast to deploy from there...
 
KinTN said:
fwiw, I watched a Hi Point 9mm go 13 clicks or more of the trigger between bangs multiple times. And this was after it had made 2 trips to the factory already. I advised the guy to file off the firing pin and toss it out the window at the closest housing project.
DO NOT trust your life to questionable tools.
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Not saying Hi-Point is the best out there but I've heard similar stories with Ruger, Marlin, Smith, Taurus and so on. I have 2 Ruger New Vaquero's and both came with the timing way out of wack. I sent one back and they put in a new pawl that's also too short and didn't fix it. Judging from what I read online this is a common issue with whats supposed to be a top of the line gun but Ruger isn't doing anything about it. I just fixed them myself in the end.

My point is there will always be a lemon that makes it off the line even with the big name brands. The question is how often does it happen and will they make it right?
 
The best options aren't cheap, but then again, do you really want to cheap out on something that you may need to rely on to save your life?
Personally, I would go stainless, auto, high quality, and still do at least a basic disassemble & clean after each venture into the water. Something like a Walther CCP Stainless would be small enough to conceal, and still be more able to do what it may need to than any .380Auto w/o breaking the bank.
 
BaldAssCat said:
Not saying Hi-Point is the best out there but I've heard similar stories with Ruger, Marlin, Smith, Taurus and so on. I have 2 Ruger New Vaquero's and both came with the timing way out of wack. I sent one back and they put in a new pawl that's also too short and didn't fix it. Judging from what I read online this is a common issue with whats supposed to be a top of the line gun but Ruger isn't doing anything about it. I just fixed them myself in the end.

My point is there will always be a lemon that makes it off the line even with the big name brands. The question is how often does it happen and will they make it right?
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I have multiple stories of HI Point failures- most of them dangerous in some way. There is no comparison to the more name brands, even some of the Taurus and Ruger models and the (gasp) SW Sigma abomination. HPs are ghetto guns.

I could bore you with my quals, but its the internet and I don't expect anyone to believe anyone anyway.
 
Ohiodigger said:
How bout a Glock 42. It's my everyday carry gun. Brand new less than $400. .380, light weight and accurate.
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Timbertodd said:
I like my Glocks G17, G26 and G43.
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For what your asking for: Glock = [/end thread]

Find the size and caliber that suites you.

Carry in a proper holster. Even carried with an empty chamber its going to be faster into action than a revolver in a bag, in a pouch.

If it gets dunked it takes less than 10min. to disassemble, dry with a hair dryer, lube and reassemble. And you don't have to worry about this until you get home, they WILL WORK under the most adverse conditions.

Carry safe, GL an HH! :grin:
 
playin4funami said:
hi-point,,,, okay, i know they get badmouthed, but they are cheap, and tough, and will continue to operate even after dunks in water covered in goopy mud. most accurate or fanciest gun in the world ,well no. But, at personal protection range they will more than get the job done. like a ak47 of handguns they do not have super tight tolerances meaning they operate just fine with some grit or crud in the system. ugly as sin though. and if ya lose it your only out 150 bucks,lol. don't believe me just hit up youtube and watch some testing and trials done on them, and no way would i carry a nice gun when it is going to get abused.
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My wife has a Hi Point 9mm my father in law and I dura coated it pink....she has put a ton of rounds through it and it has never failed to fire when the trigger was pulled. The only problem she ever had was the magazine release failed and we sent it back to them. They fixed it and she had it back in two weeks! Also sent 2 new mags with it! They are ugly and top heavy but they do have a lifetime no questions asked warranty....if they were really that crappy I don’t think they would offer lifetime warranties.....
 
Warranties are only as good as the company offering them. Reread my first post on trips to the HP factory and how that turned out.

Or bet your life on a questionable brand. Or worse yet, bet your family's life because that's what youre doing. Almost as bad as not training with your carry weapon regularly/effectively. Reality is, it aint Hollywood out there.
 
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