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(video)Garrett AT Max Test Shows Great Depth Capabilities

One reason why I probably don't already have the At Gold unit.

I guess I got confused with this one gent who I trusted who did a video.
I watched and wasn't that impressed.
But now, I guess it is safe to say, he didn't have the size coil on the unit that comes on At Pro as stock.

Hence its depth suffered a bit.

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calabash digger said:
everybody NEEDS to take a close look at the at gold and max on the quarter at about 4 min to 6 mins. Is it just my imagination or did the gold????????????
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The Max kept a more consistent vdi. He also didn't use all metal with the Max as he was in zero mode. With the Gold he used disc 1 and all metal.
 
it didn't look like it was doing no better than the gold on the silver quarter to me but hey we all see it different. What I'm trying to say on that target it didn't look like it had an advantage. So from the video how much deeper do you think the max will be over the gold?? I really don't care about all metal mode on either machine as I think its a feature that MOST want even use.
 
I see a lot of discussion about the AT Gold vs the AT Max but it seems to me the AT Pro our sales the AT Gold by quite a bit. If I had felt the AT Gold was all it is being made out to be I'd own it instead of the AT Pro.

Maybe one of the forum sponsor's could enlighten us as to which is the hotter seller the ATP or ATG.
 
Detector said:
I see a lot of discussion about the AT Gold vs the AT Max but it seems to me the AT Pro our sales the AT Gold by quite a bit. If I had felt the AT Gold was all it is being made out to be I'd own it instead of the AT Pro.

Maybe one of the forum sponsor's could enlighten us as to which is the hotter seller the ATP or ATG.
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Flawed logic?

Maybe one of our sponsors could enlighten us on which is the hotter seller, Etrac or CTX?
And which one is best? We know the answer to this.

Wonder what the overall true sales numbers are for Ace 250 vs At Pro?
I'll bet Ace 250 by a mile.
But At Pro overall a better detector.

Detector popularity can't be connected directly to detector performance when compared to other models.

Now performance for the money model wise, yes I think there is a correlation.
 
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No tn, your model is flawed. You're comparing a $1,500 detector to a $2,500 detector. The difference between the price of the ATP & ATG is about $100.

I'm a firm believe in the users choice. I have no doubt the ATG is a bit deeper, but, apparently not enough to be the popular choice for even a mere $100.

I was planning on a new Impact for my park tests, but from what I've seen already I'll wait for the ATM.
 
Detector said:
No tn, your model is flawed. You're comparing a $1,500 detector to a $2,500 detector. The difference between the price of the ATP & ATG is about $100.

I'm a firm believe in the users choice. I have no doubt the ATG is a bit deeper, but, apparently not enough to be the popular choice for even a mere $100.

I was planning on a new Impact for my park tests, but from what I've seen already I'll wait for the ATM.
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I never paid $2500 for a CTX.
Again your logic and model are flawed.

Ever think fad could enter equation for metal detector purchase?
 
I've owned both the at gold and the at pro..at gold has a clipped audio,nowhere near as informative as the at pro.I don't think anyone having used a At pro would be at all happy with the at gold audio..At gold hits hard on relic type buttons and pewter medals,and things very odd and small,,,at pro hits cleaner on actual good targets like coins,gold rings ..
 
I never paid $2500 for a CTX.
Again your logic and model are flawed.

Ever think fad could enter equation for metal detector purchase?
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I never paid $1,500 for a E-Trac either. Your logic is flawed. I see E-Tracs go for $750+ and CTX 3030's for $1,400+. Point is, as woodbutcher pointed out, the ATP is just a more popular detector because it better fits the needs of the average hunter such as myself.

Ever think fad could enter equation for metal detector purchase?
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The thing about "fads" is they don't last long. the ATP has proven to be a long term winner not just a hyped up fad. The sign of a detector that can stand up to the hype.

The only CON I have with the ATP is no threshold. Call me old faction, but problem solved with the ATM.
 
Detector said:
I never paid $1,500 for a E-Trac either. Your logic is flawed. I see E-Tracs go for $750+ and CTX 3030's for $1,400+. Point is, as woodbutcher pointed out, the ATP is just a more popular detector because it better fits the needs of the average hunter such as myself.



The thing about "fads" is they don't last long. the ATP has proven to be a long term winner not just a hyped up fad. The sign of a detector that can stand up to the hype.

The only CON I have with the ATP is no threshold. Call me old faction, but problem solved with the ATM.
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Yeah, but how many bought at pros and then moved on.
Part of any actions a human do, could be caused by a fad.

Seems with reading different forums.
A lot of folks stepped into hobby with intro model, then went mid level, and yes some even went higher end.
And the At Pro was one of the mid levels some went that route.

Granted a lot of folks who even bought at pro, I'll bet a lot of them never were in the water one iota either, they were used as land hunters.

Very easy to conflate the actual At pro actual performance to it being waterproof, for why it was so popular.

Reckon Diggers show helped any, with sales.

Wonder if others would have had their own diggers show?
Could it have made a difference.

Look any manufacturer could have made At Pro, it is basically a single freq detector.
But look what happened, at series went unchecked for years by other manufacturers (domestic), no wonder they were so popular.

The question is why?
And when a detector to compete was released, what happened?

The rest is history.
 
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Could be tn.

Myself I've owned a fair number of ATP's and currently do and never had any in the water. Rain, yes, water, no. I have never owned the ATG but I learn a lot by the reactions of others. What I've seen is people with the ATG looking to trade for an ATP. Now I believe in most cases this is from coin hunters finding the ATG just isn't quite as coin friendly a hunting machine as the ATP. That is what I get from their comments.

I've thought about getting the ATG myself, because I hunt a lot of tot lots for gold, but from what I see most would have preferred to have gotten the ATP instead.

That is why I always say give a detector a year in the public hands and the truth will come out. They will either hold value and be popular, or drop a lot in value and become hard to sell.
 
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Notice, wireless headphones.
Didn't take long for other manufacturers to catch on and produce.

Not like dissing the waterproof concept Vlf detector.

I mean think about this.

Garrett is doing what with At Max?
Competing with themselves really.

Laughable really when you think about it.
Especially in today's world.

And I'm not referring to laughing at Garrett here either.
Folks I think will get the idea.

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/population.html
 
tnsharpshooter said:
Notice, wireless headphones.
Didn't take long for other manufacturers to catch on and produce.

Not like dissing the waterproof concept Vlf detector.

I mean think about this.

Garrett is doing what with At Max?
Competing with themselves really.

Laughable really when you think about it.
Especially in today's world.

And I'm not referring to laughing at Garrett here either.
Folks I think will get the idea.

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/population.html
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LOL @ Competing with themselves really. No, their staying ahead in the game. How many other companies offer stock true wireless headphones ? Meaning no wire running down your back to a receiver.
 
Sure they are.
Nothing wrong with it.

Minelab's been doing it too.

Yeah, the wireless feature is good, but was not my point.

Wireless is icing on the cake so to speak.
 
Detector said:
Could be tn.

Myself I've owned a fair number of ATP's and currently do and never had any in the water. Rain, yes, water, no. I have never owned the ATG but I learn a lot by nothing the reactions of others. What I've seen is people with the ATG looking to trade for an ATP. Now I believe in most cases this is from coin hunters finding the ATG just isn't quite as coin friendly a hunting machine as the ATP. That is what I get from their comments.

I've thought about getting the ATG myself, because I hunt a lot of tot lots for gold, but from what I see most would have preferred to have gotten the ATP instead.

That is why I always say give a detector a year in the public hands and the truth will come out. They will either hold value and be popular, or drop a lot in value and become hard to sell.
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I used my ATP in the water many times. The ATP is just a good, versatile detector. I think people forget that the ATP is not the flagship of Garrett. Yet for the price you're getting a good detector.
 
wireless headphones have been out for 5 years , they still got some catching up to other companies are producing 3 frequency machines out of the gate now and yes it has a big advantage over a single frequency detector..
 
Kajunman,
Give me your best guess.
Talking about other water proof Vlf single freq model detector made.
Which model is its sales likely affected more by release of At Max?

Now if you reply with At Pro or Gold.
Then you agree with me, as far as they competing with themselves.

I do think At Pro sales will take a big hit.
Nothing wrong with this either.
Still a Garrett product being bought.

This model At Max will keep their market share intact.
Plus bring in some more.

Keeping market share intact is very important.

Some of you older experiment detectorists here.
Fill me in on the history of the Garrett propointer.

Am I wrong in saying, it too went unchallenged for a long while, till some competition challenged?
 
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tnsharpshooter said:
Kajunman,
Give me your best guess.
Talking about other water proof Vlf single freq model detector made.
Which model is its sales likely affected more by release of At Max?

Now if you reply with At Pro or Gold.
Then you agree with me, as far as they competing with themselves.

I do think At Pro sales will take a big hit.
Nothing wrong with this either.
Still a Garrett product being bought.

This model At Max will keep their market share intact.
Plus bring in some more.

Keeping market share intact is very important.
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Plus bring in some more. This right here. Bring in some more. They're competing with the MX Sport as well. And then there is Dilek confirming Nokta/Makro is making a water proof detector.

I look for First Texas to come out with a waterproof detector as well. From a business perspective , would you want to be first to get the market share or next ? IMO the CTX is the best saltwater detector there is. You have everything on the screen plus it doesn't false and chirp as well as pinpointing abilities. However not everyone will drop 2k on a detector.
 
Right Kajunman.

So where are the weak links to try and take some of the market share?

Well, wireless ain't it.

But waterproof wireless is.
Imagine a wireless waterproof headphone, where a cable could be attached for under water detector use.
And cable use with " this" headphones would make it functional even with dead batteries,,,like Nokta Impact wireless.
So only one set of headphones needed.
This is where I would go.
Still got to have a worthy detector to hook it to.

And it is not out of the question Garrett could devise for At Max later.
And be sold as accessory.

And of course, there is always the possibility of someone coming out with a multi freq waterproof detector.
Those Minelab patents must be tough!!

I hope some one from Garrett reads this thread.
They should.
Others too.
 
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