ZenSweeper
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Hello there you all,
let me beforehand ask for your patience and forgiveness for falling into the "creates an account -> creates a new wich_detector_should_I thread" clichè. In my defence I've read a lot of the threads in this section and mostly all of the sticky thread and I still find the need to create this one.
Now let me explain why: Brazil is a bubble from the world in so many aspects, it's far and as if this wasn't enough it has very protective laws and taxes for imports, so this creates a very "unique" scenario.
For illustration purposes check this Apple Iphone Xs Price Comparison. I obtained price infos for the same product, Silver Iphone Xs 256GB, the only difference was the location, USA and BR Apple online stores. The converted price for the USA price (USD 1149) is BRL 4315, but the here in Brazil we pay BRL 8099 (USD 2156) on the very same phone! Do the math, you can almost buy 2 of them for this $! And we are talking official stores in this example, it gets worse when the official store doesn't exist here and middlemen thrive.
So with this in mind, bear with me as I try to explain the options that showed up to me since I've decided to get a MD. Okay, so after reading here and in other places about a good starter MD, those are the ones that both caught my attention and are available here:
1) Teknetics Eurotek - someone said you could get one for something like USD 153, so a very reasonable price for a decent starter machine, right? Yep, but here in Brazil if you want one of those the price is USD 380! (PRO is USD 460)
2) MineLab GoFIND 20 - a lot of you don't like it, I was reluctant to get it too but then I found it on sale what I hoped would reduce this price gap. I know it's kinda toyish, but hey I can get this little beauty for as little as USD 160 (its listed for USD 132 on USA amazon now), so its "only 20%" overpriced, that's what I call a deal
3) BH TK-IV - this is one also on the poll and with lots of votes, so it's listed USD 80 just now at Amazon and I can get it here for USD 292.
4) Fisher F11 - I confess I don't know much about this one, but its the closest to the poll second place FIsher F2. This one costs USD 400 here (listed USD 156 on Amazon)
5) Chinese stuff - This category includes a variety of MDs that are abundant here, these are easy to get by and relatively cheap, but should I? For example, I can get this "Tander (I guess if they aimed at Thunder and ended up with this instead) MD". It seems to be the Tianxin MD3010ii judging for its appearance and functions and I can get it for something like USD 108. I also can get the MD3030 for something like USD 160.
6) Used MDs - this is a virtually nonexistent market, 90% of what you find consists of Chinese Stuff (I wonder why ) but I also found a Teknetics Alpha for USD 345 (USD 160 on Amazon), one Garret Ace 250 for the same USD 345 and an Ace 150 for USD 260.
Just out of curiosity, considering that EQX800 is favourite to many here, you would have to pay USD 1200 to get it here, AT MAX would cost USD 1800.
Being sincere, this disadvantageous scenario almost takes the possible fun of this hobby away for me, I've been considering on simply giving this up. I created this thread with the objective of making the options clearer even to me and mainly to hear from all you experts on this matter. What would you do in my case? I could expend some money on this hobby, it's not that I'm poor or anything, but it all seems bad deals in my country and I wouldn't like to start with a too complex/too expensive machine for something I've only read about and watched online.
Thanks for those who read down to this point, I hope at least this was an interesting read, I really enjoyed writing it and I wait for your input.
I am expecting to sweep on beaches mainly, could do some parks, I guess this info is useful so you can help me properly.
tl;dr brazilian newbie wants to start in MD and faces the obstacles of a emerging economy country, help him make his choice less of a financial stupidity!
let me beforehand ask for your patience and forgiveness for falling into the "creates an account -> creates a new wich_detector_should_I thread" clichè. In my defence I've read a lot of the threads in this section and mostly all of the sticky thread and I still find the need to create this one.
Now let me explain why: Brazil is a bubble from the world in so many aspects, it's far and as if this wasn't enough it has very protective laws and taxes for imports, so this creates a very "unique" scenario.
For illustration purposes check this Apple Iphone Xs Price Comparison. I obtained price infos for the same product, Silver Iphone Xs 256GB, the only difference was the location, USA and BR Apple online stores. The converted price for the USA price (USD 1149) is BRL 4315, but the here in Brazil we pay BRL 8099 (USD 2156) on the very same phone! Do the math, you can almost buy 2 of them for this $! And we are talking official stores in this example, it gets worse when the official store doesn't exist here and middlemen thrive.
So with this in mind, bear with me as I try to explain the options that showed up to me since I've decided to get a MD. Okay, so after reading here and in other places about a good starter MD, those are the ones that both caught my attention and are available here:
1) Teknetics Eurotek - someone said you could get one for something like USD 153, so a very reasonable price for a decent starter machine, right? Yep, but here in Brazil if you want one of those the price is USD 380! (PRO is USD 460)
2) MineLab GoFIND 20 - a lot of you don't like it, I was reluctant to get it too but then I found it on sale what I hoped would reduce this price gap. I know it's kinda toyish, but hey I can get this little beauty for as little as USD 160 (its listed for USD 132 on USA amazon now), so its "only 20%" overpriced, that's what I call a deal
3) BH TK-IV - this is one also on the poll and with lots of votes, so it's listed USD 80 just now at Amazon and I can get it here for USD 292.
4) Fisher F11 - I confess I don't know much about this one, but its the closest to the poll second place FIsher F2. This one costs USD 400 here (listed USD 156 on Amazon)
5) Chinese stuff - This category includes a variety of MDs that are abundant here, these are easy to get by and relatively cheap, but should I? For example, I can get this "Tander (I guess if they aimed at Thunder and ended up with this instead) MD". It seems to be the Tianxin MD3010ii judging for its appearance and functions and I can get it for something like USD 108. I also can get the MD3030 for something like USD 160.
6) Used MDs - this is a virtually nonexistent market, 90% of what you find consists of Chinese Stuff (I wonder why ) but I also found a Teknetics Alpha for USD 345 (USD 160 on Amazon), one Garret Ace 250 for the same USD 345 and an Ace 150 for USD 260.
Just out of curiosity, considering that EQX800 is favourite to many here, you would have to pay USD 1200 to get it here, AT MAX would cost USD 1800.
Being sincere, this disadvantageous scenario almost takes the possible fun of this hobby away for me, I've been considering on simply giving this up. I created this thread with the objective of making the options clearer even to me and mainly to hear from all you experts on this matter. What would you do in my case? I could expend some money on this hobby, it's not that I'm poor or anything, but it all seems bad deals in my country and I wouldn't like to start with a too complex/too expensive machine for something I've only read about and watched online.
Thanks for those who read down to this point, I hope at least this was an interesting read, I really enjoyed writing it and I wait for your input.
I am expecting to sweep on beaches mainly, could do some parks, I guess this info is useful so you can help me properly.
tl;dr brazilian newbie wants to start in MD and faces the obstacles of a emerging economy country, help him make his choice less of a financial stupidity!