The old stuff is still out there, There are still virgin sites.You just can't wander anywhere to find it though, it takes research and diligence now. Finding what others missed, or what history overlooked. You just need a new approach, we are in the age of information. Your chances of finding a new virgin site are actually not all that slim in my opinion. Travel a bit further, plan a bit harder.
Who else thinks youtube was the beginning of the end?
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longbow62
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How long do you think these folks are going to keep detecting if they don't find much. Most people new to the hobby are not very good at it anyway. It takes awhile to get comfortable and good with a machine. Finding really good stuff like gold rings and silver coins is not that easy. Same is true for CW relics. They either will get good at it or quit. I don't think most will stick with it.
It would take a lot of people detecting to pull everything good out of the ground. I noticed some hubris in some comments that they got it all already. I bet you didn't, might have got all the easy stuff. It's really more fun to me and more of an accomplishment finding the silver that is tough to find than in yards where you just pluck it out of the ground right and left. Now I would not pass up doing it way, but if I don't have spots like that I am not going to quit detecting.
It would take a lot of people detecting to pull everything good out of the ground. I noticed some hubris in some comments that they got it all already. I bet you didn't, might have got all the easy stuff. It's really more fun to me and more of an accomplishment finding the silver that is tough to find than in yards where you just pluck it out of the ground right and left. Now I would not pass up doing it way, but if I don't have spots like that I am not going to quit detecting.
Rattlehead
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Good point. I bet 4 out of every 5 people give up after the first few outings. Just a soon as they realize that finding the good stuff isn't as easy as it looks. Only a handful or people actually put in the time and effort to really learn the machine and understand that digging treasure also requires digging a lot of trash. Its a lot of work and only those who are passionate about it will hang in there.
and luck be with you, cuz you are gonna need it!.. private homes, and fields!..the last frontier!.i'm just sayin'
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j.t.
been at it for over 35 years, and and when i get out (all the time) i am retired!
i see absolutely no body detecting, anywhere!, even 10 years ago i would see several.not sure what's going on, but an educated guess would be, people get discouraged and quit, finding something else to do! ..i'm just sayin'
(h.h.!)
j.t.
Skippy SH13
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Smart money says target gold and pick up clad and silver along the way. 10 gold finds a year are usually worth about 3x-6x my total clad. And I find between $800-$1200 a year in clad!
GLASSHOPPER1955
Elite Member
Agree! Also Nugget Noggin seems to be genuine. And entertaining at the same time.
StratTone
Elite Member
I don't see YouTube hurting anything. I agree that most people will give it up and have no idea the time needed to find what they see in a 30 minute video on youtube.
relichead
Banned
I dont particularly like silver but it is fun digging old coins...investing dug clad every end of season is a good idea..but i wouldnt invest in silver ..ya you probably wont lose any money in 10 yrs ..but i see silver reaching a wopping $19 oz. ...if you wanna wait 25 years or more...it just seems to go up 2 bucks and down 2 bucks up and down up and down.....other than the one couple day period a while back if i remember it went to 40 bucks...i dont see 40 bucks oz. Again in my life time ...certainly not these next couple decades
Steve
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I have been lucky enough to find a virgin fair grounds, on the heels of a new horse track too. Plenty of virgin cellar holes around as well. It just takes LOTS of research and work. And yes most is private land now.
Just recently getting into the hobby and I had concerns about public areas being hunted out. I did some research and started detecting a few forest preserves that have been around since the 20's.
I managed to recover 10 cents or less around the pavilion and the large area surrounding it. The last time out I noticed a previous plug where someone reburied the trash. As I was packing up I seen another guy with a detector around the same area. Maybe a high end machine could turn up some deeper silver but I feel that spot is hunted out within the limits of my at pro. I seem to have better luck around the smaller picnic and fishing areas. I might also try detecting some of the shorter trails. I think most people go straight for the pavilion. We also have a huge park that is filled with crowds of people playing baseball all summer. I think there are enough places with new items to keep the hobby interesting from a casual approach.
I'm still having fun but I could see how digging trash all the time could get boring. Many other hobby forums have similar posts about someone becoming bored of the hobby or how its not the same etc. I also like that I can pack up the detector so its not in my way should I ever decide to take a break.
My favorite youtube channel is aquachigger. He does caves and exploring as well. Many of his videos are trash finds but still fun to watch. Some of these large permissions don't have much on them either.
I managed to recover 10 cents or less around the pavilion and the large area surrounding it. The last time out I noticed a previous plug where someone reburied the trash. As I was packing up I seen another guy with a detector around the same area. Maybe a high end machine could turn up some deeper silver but I feel that spot is hunted out within the limits of my at pro. I seem to have better luck around the smaller picnic and fishing areas. I might also try detecting some of the shorter trails. I think most people go straight for the pavilion. We also have a huge park that is filled with crowds of people playing baseball all summer. I think there are enough places with new items to keep the hobby interesting from a casual approach.
I'm still having fun but I could see how digging trash all the time could get boring. Many other hobby forums have similar posts about someone becoming bored of the hobby or how its not the same etc. I also like that I can pack up the detector so its not in my way should I ever decide to take a break.
My favorite youtube channel is aquachigger. He does caves and exploring as well. Many of his videos are trash finds but still fun to watch. Some of these large permissions don't have much on them either.
ToySoldier
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It's amazing how much land use and vegetation changes. Houses and stores and gathering places existed where you'd never expect, and people find coins in the weirdest places.
If you're ok with getting a few private permissions a year from family, friends, co-workers, and a few door knocks, then you'll be content for the rest of your days. Plus, you can do some research and make metal detecting a reason to go visit another city or small town or even the beach.
Porsche914
Elite Member
I have said this before but here it goes....
We are in a dying hobby and basically getting the leftover scraps.
I have been to several different clubs/meetings and all of them look like a geriatric ward.
I absolutely love it when some enthusiastic guy joins the club and has researched great places to hunt, only to have one of the old timers tell him it has been pounded to death by every club member since 1960. Or, that we held club outings there and pulled $100 face value of silver per person....people just put down their detectors and used a gravel shovel to pick up all the coins.
That may be a bit of an exaggeration.
We have an outing called a scavenger hunt. Basically dig it all,bring it in, and then see who found the most of a randomly drawn category. My buddy says " I know a trashy spot that will be great for this contest....no one knows about it." We are 30 minutes into the hunt and 4 other people showed up.
We are in a dying hobby and basically getting the leftover scraps.
I have been to several different clubs/meetings and all of them look like a geriatric ward.
I absolutely love it when some enthusiastic guy joins the club and has researched great places to hunt, only to have one of the old timers tell him it has been pounded to death by every club member since 1960. Or, that we held club outings there and pulled $100 face value of silver per person....people just put down their detectors and used a gravel shovel to pick up all the coins.
That may be a bit of an exaggeration.We have an outing called a scavenger hunt. Basically dig it all,bring it in, and then see who found the most of a randomly drawn category. My buddy says " I know a trashy spot that will be great for this contest....no one knows about it." We are 30 minutes into the hunt and 4 other people showed up.
ToySoldier
Forum Supporter
To be fair, that's largely due to very few young people these days seeing any value in joining social/hobby clubs. They're out there hunting and posting their finds on social media.
Kraemer
Senior Member
I could care less about UTUBE clowns with a metal detector. I’m retired and enjoy getting outside with a purpose. Metal detecting is for my physical and mental health, I abhor exercising! I can’t control the actions of idiots so why bother worrying about them? Apathetic? Yeah but I’m 63 years old and earned the right!
Wolf-Dog
Elite Member
X2 - I enjoy watching NuggetNoggin as well and have learned a lot from his videos.
FreeBirdTim
Elite Member
We're not all clowns or idiots. I've posted around 30 metal detecting videos on YouTube and never once yelled or jumped up and down like a fool! As a matter of fact, you will never see me in any of my videos. Not doing it for attention or fame, just like showing some of the coins and 1700's relics I find here in New England.
I also like to show off the endless stone walls and colonial cellar holes around my area. Many people have never seen anything like that, so it's fun for them to check out the structures our founding fathers built 250 years ago that are still standing to this day. Just my take on it...
AquaHunter
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This thread is analogous to car owners getting upset at car commercials because they encourage more people to buy cars.
Whenever you are in a traffic jam, you are just as much a part of the problem as the person in the next car.
To new people coming into the MD'ing hobby, like me, the perspective is "those who came before me took most the good stuff (and I don't blame them one bit). But some of their actions got MD'ing banned in areas that would otherwise be open."
So if you are upset about new people coming into the hobby, then please remember you were new too at some point.
OTOH, a more constructive approach to the flood of newbies might be to get a larger coil or better equipment to detect deeper and catch what those who came before missed. Or detect in areas hard to get to. Embrace the challenge!
Whenever you are in a traffic jam, you are just as much a part of the problem as the person in the next car.
To new people coming into the MD'ing hobby, like me, the perspective is "those who came before me took most the good stuff (and I don't blame them one bit). But some of their actions got MD'ing banned in areas that would otherwise be open."
So if you are upset about new people coming into the hobby, then please remember you were new too at some point.
OTOH, a more constructive approach to the flood of newbies might be to get a larger coil or better equipment to detect deeper and catch what those who came before missed. Or detect in areas hard to get to. Embrace the challenge!
