Very impressive test for the Legend

[jmaclen]

I’ll be showing the Legend soon. If things go as planned.

Will be compared to Etrac, Deus 2, and Equinox 800.
Various tests both on top of the ground, elevated and buried targets and in the wild.
Some real good tests.
Not all models will be compared on all tests. Some tests will show all depending.

Folks can watch and draw their own conclusions.
Honest straight down the line.
The good, bad and the ugly of all models will be shown.

Honest straight down the line........

So, what is one to think about a post like this......

Originally Posted by tnsharpshooter
I watched video.
I never did see the gent sweep just the nails (in configuration used in video with coin) without the coin present.
So test is null and void imo.
Folks can place as much stock in video as they wish.
Also notice no low conductive coin tried.
Where was detector tone break set at?
Was he using factory tone break? Or dialing into iron region?

Cheers.
Video bit hokey to me.

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It's be a Regulator Warrior time so..........He removes the silver coin and detects just the nails at about the 2:00 minute or so mark of the video so hopefully that will make it a very valid video for most.

Park M1, Pitch tones, discrimination setting A=all targets accepted, iron volume was on....didn't show the volume level, reactivity 10 (highest setting), Iron Filter 5, Iron Filter Stability 4. The Pitch Tone default tone break is 10 but don't know where his was set.

Liam is a decent fellow that is very excited about metal detecting, he makes plenty of YouTube content creator and metal detecting mistakes on camera, he doesn't get butt hurt when he is corrected, he takes it seriously, he owns and uses Deus 2 and the Legend and he has limited resources. Hokey.......definitely your opinion tnsharphooter. A decent source for another opinion......why not.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Honest straight down the line........

So, what is one to think about a post like this......

Originally Posted by tnsharpshooter
I watched video.
I never did see the gent sweep just the nails (in configuration used in video with coin) without the coin present.
So test is null and void imo.
Folks can place as much stock in video as they wish.
Also notice no low conductive coin tried.
Where was detector tone break set at?
Was he using factory tone break? Or dialing into iron region?

Cheers.
Video bit hokey to me.

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It's be a Regulator Warrior time so..........He removes the silver coin and detects just the nails at about the 2:00 minute or so mark of the video so hopefully that will make it a very valid video for most.

Park M1, Pitch tones, discrimination setting A=all targets accepted, iron volume was on....didn't show the volume level, reactivity 10 (highest setting), Iron Filter 5, Iron Filter Stability 4. The Pitch Tone default tone break is 10 but don't know where his was set.

Liam is a decent fellow that is very excited about metal detecting, he makes plenty of YouTube content creator and metal detecting mistakes on camera, he doesn't get butt hurt when he is corrected, he takes it seriously, he owns and uses Deus 2 and the Legend and he has limited resources. Hokey.......definitely your opinion tnsharphooter. A decent source for another opinion......why not.

Problem is. What was he saying about detector pre V1.08 ?
Yeah. He accused Calabash of parlor tricks of the why behind Legend shortcomings on iron and coin tests.

Folks can watch my videos if they choose.

CD told the truth about Legend pre v1.08. As far as unmasking/ separation
Involving iron.

And even the testers now are admitting.
Even iffy signals.

You see when a person is caught BSing just one time with me.
Game over. Credibility is shot.

I’ll add here.
I have showed a lot of videos involving detector behavior comparing Minelab models and Xp models.
Neither company has made a video or contacted me accusingly me of BS, sabotage, trickery,etc.

Truth be told they may have watched some of the videos to gain some insight.

 

[jmaclen]

Problem is. What was he saying about detector pre V1.08 ?
Yeah. He accused Calabash of parlor tricks of the why behind Legend shortcomings on iron and coin tests.

Folks can watch my videos if they choose.

CD told the truth about Legend pre v1.08. As far as unmasking/ separation
Involving iron.

And even the testers now are admitting.
Even iffy signals.

You see when a person is caught BSing just one time with me.
Game over. Credibility is shot.

I’ll add here.
I have showed a lot of videos involving detector behavior comparing Minelab models and Xp models.
Neither company has made a video or contacted me accusingly me of BS, sabotage, trickery,etc.

Truth be told they may have watched some of the videos to gain some insight.

Caught BSing........

So, you criticize Liam's video posted above including make a false, clearly wrong series of statements, maybe you had to go to the bathroom when he removed the coin...... and make a judgement on his testing based on a false claim. People read that, watch the video again and say HUH........what is going on.

thank you for answering my post and clarifying the real reason.

 

[Diga]

I’ll be showing the Legend soon. If things go as planned.
Honest straight down the line.
The good, bad and the ugly of all models will be shown

No one in their right mind believes that.

I believe your tests will be about as honest as your buddy's tests. Your buddy's tests in which after getting the D2, his Nox suddenly became cr-p, and could no longer hit the targets that it was hitting before he got the D2. Your buddy's tests showing the Legend not passing a test, but Liam from History Revisited, myself, and other Legend owners, debunked those tests.

TSS, it's blatantly obvious to everyone, that you have an immature hate on for Nokta Makro, and especially the Legend. You don't even own the Legend, but scour the internet to find and post anything negative about it (to which almost all of it was either totally misleading, or outright wrong). What is even more pathetic, is you did it under the guise of "I'm just trying to help folks", because you think everyone here is too stupid to see what you were doing.

Heck, you're so biased toward XP, that you refused to reply to my points and questions in regards to your bashing. You've done it yet again in this thread, by refusing to reply to Casull when he said to you, "And yet no such critique when you posted Calabash Digger's video wherein he did pretty much the same with the Deus II.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Caught BSing........

So, you criticize Liam's video posted above including make a false, clearly wrong series of statements, maybe you had to go to the bathroom when he removed the coin...... and make a judgement on his testing based on a false claim. People read that, watch the video again and say HUH........what is going on.

thank you for answering my post and clarifying the real reason.

Real reason credibility shot. Accused fellow detectorist of trickery.
And now we know the real deal.

I won’t be wearing rose colored glasses when I compare the detectors.
Wouldn’t mind having an AT Max to through into the mix.

I thinks some folks will find these videos interesting, helpful, and enjoyable. They just might help them with a purchase decision.

 

[Diga]

Wow.

Before TSS has even started his up and coming "honest" comparisons, he's already making excuses, and defending the most prevalent D2 shill in existence.

Great start TSS!

 

[jmaclen]

So, I am sitting here looking at my Deus 2.....fantastic metal detector that I really like especially compared to Deus 1 except for one issue.

When I am able to, I spend a lot of my time gold prospecting with a metal detector. I bought Deus 2 for many reasons including it has a Goldfield mode. Right now I would not take it on one of my gold prospecting trips. I would pick several other detectors (including Deus 1) over Deus 2 for that kind of hunting at the moment. I made one video about this and posted it on YouTube......One. Hopefully XP will fix this issue. They haven't responded to my emails or mentioned anything about an update.

I look over at my Legend and I knew when I bought it that it was going to get several published, well documented updates including an adjustable iron bias feature. I accepted that and used it for detecting in areas that had less iron trash. It did just fine in those places. I also did not take it out for gold prospecting either since a low iron bias setting is crucial for gold prospecting. Now that 1.08 has been released, the Legend is definitely ready for gold prospecting and from the testing I have done, it should do very well.

Somebody made over 60 videos criticizing the Legend's pre-1.08 iron bias feature (all have been deleted). Anyone with a computer that could go online and research the Legend had access to those for a while.

They also had access to information from Type D John Q Public (thanks again Rattlehead!) actual Legend owners who said clearly that the Legend was a great detector for the money and could only get better when Nokta Makro finished the iron bias update and a few other things.

Truth....

Nokta Makro early on, told us what they were going to do after they publicly engaged with their testers and early owners and made a decision. After that decision somebody continued to make Legend iron bias deficiency videos over and over and over again for what purpose?????

I sent Gary Blackwell - XP Deus Skill School - a personal message about Deus 2 Goldfield's under par sensitivity to small gold......He said he wasn't aware of a problem with Goldfield, that he would look into it, and he said thank you.

Some good people brought this Goldfield issue up just after the Deus 2 release in forum comments and a few videos......they got slammed by the same people that were and still are slamming History Revisited's videos.

Other than those people mentioned who are actual detector gold prospectors (and who understandably don't want to make anymore Deus 2 gold prospecting videos after the S-Show they went through) I have seen a couple of tnsharpshooter's videos mention in passing a few words about Deus 2 and small target sensitivity on sub gram targets like small foil and small shotgun pellets. Otherwise......crickets.

So, continue to blast away at Nokta Makro's Legend even though Nokta Makro have publicly promised and followed through on their promises while blasting any Deus 2 owner that brings up a real problem or even a slight deficiency like Liam tried to do with his Legend/Deus 2 videos linked in this thread.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Wow.

Before TSS has even started his up and coming "honest" comparisons, he's already making excuses, and defending the most prevalent D2 shill in existence.

Great start TSS!

Yeah.
Great start. Telling the truth.
How about that.

Just watch the videos.
I don’t know what the results will be.
I will eventually.

All detectors are great.
They can do something the human eye can’t do.
Question is which models do the best (on any particular scenario) or satisfy one’s needs/wishes. Obvious price can play into this equation depending on the person.
Some folks would give $5,000 for a VLF detector that could ID a silver dime at 14 inches. Question is how many 14 inch dimes are actually in a site one hunts?

 

[KOB]

Same ol nonsense TNSS. I will say some of your videos , tests can be helpful to people. SOME , not the plethora of what you sling out there. You do show signs of a sense of humor. And I liked talking about cars with you.

But don't EVER come on here and talk about credibility without looking in the mirror and asking yourself one critical question : Do I like what I see ?

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Same ol nonsense TNSS. I will say some of your videos , tests can be helpful to people. SOME , not the plethora of what you sling out there. You do show signs of a sense of humor. And I liked talking about cars with you.

But don't EVER come on here and talk about credibility without looking in the mirror and asking yourself one critical question : Do I like what I see ?

I looked in the mirror. I liked what I saw. Glamorous actually for being 60 years old.

Which is it, helpful or nonsense? Weird.

I talk to folks who do learn a thing or two. It’s really the beginners or far less experienced I want to help moreso.
Let’s face user’s manuals as far as detectors not the tell all necessarily. Never have been. Granted there are some real good manual out there. Some though more lacking.

 

[KOB]

I looked in the mirror. I liked what I saw. Glamorous actually for being 60 years old.

Which is it, helpful or nonsense? Weird.

I talk to folks who do learn a thing or two. It’s really the beginners or far less experienced I want to help moreso.
Let’s face user’s manuals as far as detectors not the tell all necessarily. Never have been. Granted there are some real good manual out there. Some though more lacking.

Glamorous ? More like Gluttonous . True the manuals could be better. I think Nokta updated theirs for the Legend. You have to give them credit. At least they communicate. What do you hear from XP ? Do they even post on here , the Premiere MD'ING forum on the planet ?

 

[woodbutcher]

Problem is. What was he saying about detector pre V1.08 ?
Yeah. He accused Calabash of parlor tricks of the why behind Legend shortcomings on iron and coin tests.

Folks can watch my videos if they choose.

CD told the truth about Legend pre v1.08. As far as unmasking/ separation
Involving iron.

And even the testers now are admitting.
Even iffy signals.

You see when a person is caught BSing just one time with me.
Game over. Credibility is shot.

I’ll add here.
I have showed a lot of videos involving detector behavior comparing Minelab models and Xp models.
Neither company has made a video or contacted me accusingly me of BS, sabotage, trickery,etc.

Truth be told they may have watched some of the videos to gain some insight.

TN,how are you so sure calabash told the truth?

 

[tnsharpshooter]

TN,how are you so sure calabash told the truth?

I won’t entertain your question with an answer.
I will be looking at Legend closely soon and sharing data.

 

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