The City Council would prefer you don't do that here plus silver 36 & 37

And this is a great post coming from a cop no less !

In-so-far as there's no specific prohibition , then sure. But so-long as we don't swat hornet's nests with the verbiage that *could* apply (like by being rude or "in-your-face" defiant, or whatever). I mean, let's face it, our hobby has ... uh .... connotations :laughing:

There was one particular park we liked to hit, where we began to draw the ire of a single park worker (a high brass suit and tie guy that worked in an office that overlooked this particular park). We began to figure out what his shift was. The solution was simple: you could hunt that park on the days and hours he wasn't working. Presto, problem solved. No need to "seek clarifications" or "fight it", etc...


The thing is, we're all human. There are cops out there that have the best work ethic in the world, and there're some that are just downright criminal. It's harder in small towns where officers can act and do things without much scrutiny. A lot of the comments here are similar, just leave, it's not worth the fight. I've never thought that way. If I'm right, I'm right, now leave me alone. I would simply ask if there are any laws concerning detecting and if they say no, keep swinging. Life and laws aren't always black and white, but to me this is. Can you, or can you not detect? It's also hard for cops because we don't come across detectorists all that often. So when one gets a complaint, there's uncertainty in what to do. That's why it's imperative to know the laws yourself. And if you have a bad experience, tell someone. Go to the PD and ask to speak to the supervisor. Don't go in demanding the cop's job, just explain it as simply as possible. You never know, it may help. Or you may end up in a cell with Jimbo, I don't know.
 
Nice finds! Sucks getting run off from a spot though, especially when you're finding oldies there, but we've pretty much all been there before...
 
"The City Council would PREFER you don't do that here." ...

TommyJay, the emphasis on the word "prefer" is note-worthy. I mean, gee, my wife would "PREFER" that I stay at home doing chores, rather than go metal detecting". She can "prefer" all she wants, eh ? Or the worker in the restaurant would "prefer" that I leave a $100 tip, eh ? Since when does "prefer" make it law ?

Sure, this isn't to say you and I be defiant and lack lip service @ the time of the scram. But to me, it merely means "go back when that single person isn't around". After all, my dad lost his boyscout ring when he was a kid there.
 
.... there're some that are just downright criminal.....

CJ319, I was not thinking along those lines. I think 99% of cops are just doing their job, have bigger fish to fry, and aren't "criminal". The scenario I had in mind was where a cop gets a call from a "miss lookie-lou". (Because someone thought you were wierd, or that you were about to leave a hole, or whatever). And , as a cop, correct me if I'm wrong, but .... when you show up to such a call, isn't there a bit of an ... uh .... obligation to "satisfy the lookie lou" and/or "justify your call out" ? So the wheels of the cops brain turn (after all, he just had to drive all the way over), thinking "gee, what are the ramifications of this?"

I even had one cop who, after pleasant conversation (where I was trying to get him to change his mind), confided in me that the ONLY reason he was there, is they got a call from an apt. building across the street, where it overlooks this exact corner of the park. So the cop, in wink-wink fashion, suggested I just go to the other side of the park, so he could satisfy the lady (who was always calling in any infraction she perceived, as "park monitor" type).

Point is: Most md'rs might have just tucked their tail at the "scram". And concluded "oh no, all the city parks in this town are off-limits". But as you can see with that story, an isolated scram does not always constitute law. Nor does it constitute something that we all should rush to city hall to fight or seek clarification on.
 
..... A lot of the comments here are similar, just leave, it's not worth the fight. I've never thought that way. If I'm right, I'm right, now leave me alone. I would simply ask if there are any laws concerning detecting and if they say no, keep swinging...

But isn't this risky ? I mean, let's be dreadfully honest: The cop *could* then rely on ancillary verbiage to boot or ticket you. Eh ? Eg.: "alter" and "deface" (you "dig" after all). And sure, you can debate them on this (since you'll leave no trace). But do you *really* think you're going to win that debate ? Or how about "remove" and "harvest" verbiage ? Or cultural heritage issues? etc.. etc... the list is endless.
 
I had the same thing happen to me a couple of months ago at the local park. Apparently some lady complained about me detecting there so they asked me to stop. I wanted to argue but decided to just let it go. Sucks.


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Just wanted to add to this: After I agreed to leave, the park official continued talking with me for a few more minutes. He understood that I wasn't hurting anything or anyone and thought it was silly that the old lady complained. He then told me about a smaller park just down the road that doesn't see much use. Told me to go detect there all I want. I went there and found silver within the first 10 minutes of swinging. So I guess not arguing with him worked out well at the end of the day.
 
But isn't this risky ? I mean, let's be dreadfully honest: The cop *could* then rely on ancillary verbiage to boot or ticket you. Eh ? Eg.: "alter" and "deface" (you "dig" after all). And sure, you can debate them on this (since you'll leave no trace). But do you *really* think you're going to win that debate ? Or how about "remove" and "harvest" verbiage ? Or cultural heritage issues? etc.. etc... the list is endless.

I guess this is where my feeling of "if you're right, you're right" comes in. If someone wants to use their big boy voice just to make you stop doing something that's legal, that's not right. If you leave and do nothing, they've won. And they believe that they can continue to act this way towards others. I understand leaving for the sake of keeping your freedom, but don't just leave it at that. Talk to a supervisor. Talk to the city council. If the officer doesn't know any better, and running you off works, then that'll be the solution to every detectorist contact.
 
Whats so hard about this subject for the Metal Detecting Community at large to comprehend? Years upon years of the same old dialog when an easy solution to this dilemma has been abundantly outlined and successfully deployed in field?

...Go and hunt anywhere you want!..Day or Night...If EVER confronted by an authority figure,..just babble along all animated in your own made up tongue and if need be, simply wet your pants......sheeit...even a stupid baby vulture knows this defense tactic instinctively!

We aint golfers for Petes sake! Just stop getting all hung up on the ever changing vagarities of Human rules and formalities!

Concerned about protecting the Sport and your reputation? You abandoned those aspirations long ago when you picked up your first parking lot penny and popped it in your pocket!! Do you think your tombstone will say, "Aspire to be This Guy?".....

Time and Gold wait for Nobody! Go getcha some!

Or not....I dont give one diddly dowagers damn or a tawdry tosspot tinkers cuss whatcha do!..."You may fire when ready Gridley"....:laughing:
 
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.... If someone wants to use their big boy voice just to make you stop doing something that's legal, that's not right....

But here's where the devil is in the details: *IS* metal detecting there "legal" ? Or isn't it ? DOES/COULD ancillary verbiage apply ? IT MOST CERTAINLY COULD ! Do you really think you'll win that debate of semantics ? After all, you show up with a screwdriver or lesche. (shame on you). Maybe you would prevail. Or what if they decide to "address this pressing issue" with a new rule proposed at the next city council meeting ?

I hear what you're saying . But I guess I have transitioned to treating this as a little like nose-picking: Sometimes you just ... uh ... pick discreet times . Rather than trying to convince people "it's legal".
 
Do you have any Thai restaurants where you are, it blows chinese food out of the water.:eat3::eat2:
Nice coins,bummer with the police.
 
Do you have any Thai restaurants where you are, it blows chinese food out of the water.:eat3::eat2:

Nice coins,bummer with the police.



I like Thai, but don't do sit down restaurants. Love cheap take out. I do occasionally go for some drunken noodles or pad Thai.


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Those were great finds!

I would have kindly told the officer that the person who complained could go pound sand. Parks are funded by tax dollars, therefore being a tax payer, I believe I, and other tax payers, have the right to detect in said parks as long as there is no specific law preventing it.
This kind of reminds me of collecting artifacts along shorelines controlled by The Corps of Engineers.......who can also go pound sand. They prohibit it but they are the main reason the artifacts are easily found. They're sad attempt at controlling lake water levels leads to many an archaeological site being destroyed. Being that the only reason they exist is the result of wasted tax dollars, don't you think the artifacts should be free game being they are on land that is controlled and funded by tax payers?
 
The City Council would prefer you don't do that here plus silver 36 & 37

Those were great finds!



I would have kindly told the officer that the person who complained could go pound sand. Parks are funded by tax dollars, therefore being a tax payer, I believe I, and other tax payers, have the right to detect in said parks as long as there is no specific law preventing it.

This kind of reminds me of collecting artifacts along shorelines controlled by The Corps of Engineers.......who can also go pound sand. They prohibit it but they are the main reason the artifacts are easily found. They're sad attempt at controlling lake water levels leads to many an archaeological site being destroyed. Being that the only reason they exist is the result of wasted tax dollars, don't you think the artifacts should be free game being they are on land that is controlled and funded by tax payers?



I tend to agree with Tom on this. If I tell them to pound sand or pursue clarification then the bureaucrat P O S s just pass an ordinance and ruin it for everyone. I'll just hit it at a more low profile time in the future.


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I tend to agree with Tom on this. If I tell them to pound sand or pursue clarification then the bureaucrat P O S s just pass an ordinance and ruin it for everyone. I'll just hit it at a more low profile time in the future.


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I think you're probably right on this one.
Isn't bureaucracy a great thing! All we need is more laws.

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In my town I was detecting a park and this woman whose property butted up against the park, thought it was her duty to tell me to go away.
She started the conversation with "You're here EVERY day!!!" I softly replied, "Not really. I don't come here when its raining or in the winter." She continued to harrass me but I just kept coming back with a soft, cool voice with my answers. I thought to myself, She may be recording this conversation. I felt like screaming "Lady! Get out of my face and mind your own business." I'm sure she'd have loved that.

Later she called the cops on me as I was detecting that park. Fortunately, I'm in real good with the cops in town. Amanda, the female cop showed up. She told the lady I'm allowed to detect in the park. Then she told me there is no law against detecting in the park and to enjoy my detecting. I smiled and asked Amanda how she's doing and we chit chatted a little. She's cute too, but *sigh* she's married.

The lady and her family moved.

Interesting that as I would be detecting, her kids would throw rocks at me. But I knew she put them up to it to cause a ruckus. And she was a teacher in town.
 
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