hilltopdoc
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not calling anyone a liar, but if the gentleman is 70, then he was born in 1944.
Surprise find with Harbor Freight detector
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Bayoutalker
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The son is 70 so being born in 1944 is entirely possible.
hilltopdoc
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I see. I must have misread. That makes more sense.
Sod
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I couldn't agree with you more on the Disrespectful..The man doesn't deserve to look at it, let alone have it in his possession. Hopefully the VA will true it over to a museum so the people who appreciate what this solder gave for his country cam enjoy it.
Sorry for the rant.
Strummer
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Great find, and a great story!
nickleanddime
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Great find, those "cheap" ones are like the better ones. Kinda a hitachi case,Sony guts thing lol. I use a best buy one and I like it better then my bounty hunter Iv. They a simple straight forward machines.
Jon Stewart
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purple heart
I only read to learn on here but when I read your story and what you with your Purple Heart find I just had to post for the first time. As Marines say, OUSTANDING". You did good.
On a sad note. That puke that hung a Purple Heart on a dogs collar needs to be spoken to in ways that I can't write on here.
I only read to learn on here but when I read your story and what you with your Purple Heart find I just had to post for the first time. As Marines say, OUSTANDING". You did good.
On a sad note. That puke that hung a Purple Heart on a dogs collar needs to be spoken to in ways that I can't write on here.
Big Treble
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As a parent of an Iraq war veteran, and another currently stationed in Pearl Harbor, I thank you for what you did for his son
OleSarge
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Congrats on the awsome first finds Scooter, and from a Vet, thanks for your respect for a service medal which is commonly accepted as being one level below, and frequently awarded with the Congressional Medal of Honor. I keep my Bounty Hunter Outback, and on a metal detecting outing a few weeks ago my grandson used it to put my AT Pro to shame. Many things makes a metal detector good, and in this case maybe it was because he was totally attuned to the BH and I was more involved in watching him have fun than listening to my own tones.
ATP/GPP/Fiskars Diggers/BH Outback/CT hand held
ATP/GPP/Fiskars Diggers/BH Outback/CT hand held
nwohio
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Thank you for a heart warming story and welcome to the forum.
SageGrouse
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What a story! And for someone to put a Purple Heart on a DOG'S collar?! Un-BELIEVABLE!!
I have my great uncle's Purple Heart. My great uncle, Ray Leon Jaques lied about his age to get into the military during WWII. he went into the Navy and was posted onto the USS Lexington.
He was in the radio room during the Battle of the Coral Sea, May 3rd, 1942 when the Lady Lex was hit by Japanese planes. She was hit bad, but continued to sail under her own power. Then there was a huge explosion in a fuel bunker and major fires started all over the ship.
There are two versions of what happened next. One was told to our family by a sailor who had come to notify the family of Ray's death. The other is the official version. Which is correct, I don't know.
Basically, it was decided that, following the major explosions and fire, that the ship was unsalvageable, and, to prevent her from falling into enemy hands, it was decided to scuttle her. The order to abandon ship came, and everyone that had survived, was transferred to another ship in the fleet. The official version is that everyone who could get off, did.
The UNofficial version was that, due to the wreckage in her superstructure there were seamen who were trapped in the flaming ship without a way to get topside. One of these areas was the radio room. We will never know if this is true or not, but what the person who came to my great grandmother's door told them was this (paraphrase from what my grandmother told me verbally)
"Well, the radio room was isolated and they couldn't get out, but the radioman on duty got the message from the other ships "Boys, we can't let the ship fall into the hands of the Japs. I'm sorry but unless you can get out... we're gonna have to sink you." The reply he got back over the radio was "Well, Sir... make it a good hit! We've got one Hell of a card game going on down here and I'm winning! Tell our families we love them! God bless the UsA. Lexington out."
In tears, the Fleet Admiral sent two torpedoes into Lex's hull and she sank cleanly, taking all who couldn't be evacuated with her. We don't know if Ray was dead or alive at that time. I suspect he was alive.
The Purple Heart was awarded aloing with a Presidential Commendation signed by Franklin D. Roosevelt. We have also a unit commendation, signed by President Lyndon B. Johnson. It was drawn up and had beel placed on the desk of John F. Kennedy, to be signed by him... but he first had to do some things before returning to Washington D.C. ... on the list was a trip to Dallas Texas.
Most war medals are coin-shaped, flat and die-struck like US coins are. The Purple Heart is different. It is a fully 3-dimensional medal, a heart, puffed front and back from matte finish gold metal. The front is inlaid in purple enamel with the silhouette of George Washington, the originator of the medal. The back bears the name of the recipent and the date, battle, and war the medal was awarded for.
Many Purple Hearts are awarded for injuries, but, more significantly, they are awarded when a service member is killed in wartime. Sometimes, that medal is the only "remains" the family has. That was the case with Ray Leon Jaques. His body is at the bottom of the Coral Sea. I can only imagine the tears cried over that medal by my great grandmother, who had lost her youngest son, her "baby" to the cold waters of the Pacific. To hang such a medal on the collar of a dog!! Outrageous!
Oh... and last but not least... my young cousin Raymie, named after Ray Leon so many years before... When he was four years old, he woke the household with screams of "Fire! FIRE!!" His mother, my cousin, dashed into his room to find the boy sitting up in bed staring straight ahead. When she woke him, he said "There was a big room, with lots of metal boxes! It was green and it was on fire! Where's Mama! I want Deedee!"
Rayme had always called his own mother "Mommy" *not* Mama. And Deedee was Mildred, his OWN grandmother (whom HE called "Gammie" NOT "Deedee"). Ray Leon had called Lenore Jaques, his mother "Mama" and he called his *sister* Mildred "Deedee"! Once fully awake, the four year old boy described the Lexington's radio room accurately, told them he had been "on a big boat that got on fire" and accurately named relatives who had been dead before he was born.
SageGrouse
I have my great uncle's Purple Heart. My great uncle, Ray Leon Jaques lied about his age to get into the military during WWII. he went into the Navy and was posted onto the USS Lexington.
He was in the radio room during the Battle of the Coral Sea, May 3rd, 1942 when the Lady Lex was hit by Japanese planes. She was hit bad, but continued to sail under her own power. Then there was a huge explosion in a fuel bunker and major fires started all over the ship.
There are two versions of what happened next. One was told to our family by a sailor who had come to notify the family of Ray's death. The other is the official version. Which is correct, I don't know.
Basically, it was decided that, following the major explosions and fire, that the ship was unsalvageable, and, to prevent her from falling into enemy hands, it was decided to scuttle her. The order to abandon ship came, and everyone that had survived, was transferred to another ship in the fleet. The official version is that everyone who could get off, did.
The UNofficial version was that, due to the wreckage in her superstructure there were seamen who were trapped in the flaming ship without a way to get topside. One of these areas was the radio room. We will never know if this is true or not, but what the person who came to my great grandmother's door told them was this (paraphrase from what my grandmother told me verbally)
"Well, the radio room was isolated and they couldn't get out, but the radioman on duty got the message from the other ships "Boys, we can't let the ship fall into the hands of the Japs. I'm sorry but unless you can get out... we're gonna have to sink you." The reply he got back over the radio was "Well, Sir... make it a good hit! We've got one Hell of a card game going on down here and I'm winning! Tell our families we love them! God bless the UsA. Lexington out."
In tears, the Fleet Admiral sent two torpedoes into Lex's hull and she sank cleanly, taking all who couldn't be evacuated with her. We don't know if Ray was dead or alive at that time. I suspect he was alive.
The Purple Heart was awarded aloing with a Presidential Commendation signed by Franklin D. Roosevelt. We have also a unit commendation, signed by President Lyndon B. Johnson. It was drawn up and had beel placed on the desk of John F. Kennedy, to be signed by him... but he first had to do some things before returning to Washington D.C. ... on the list was a trip to Dallas Texas.
Most war medals are coin-shaped, flat and die-struck like US coins are. The Purple Heart is different. It is a fully 3-dimensional medal, a heart, puffed front and back from matte finish gold metal. The front is inlaid in purple enamel with the silhouette of George Washington, the originator of the medal. The back bears the name of the recipent and the date, battle, and war the medal was awarded for.
Many Purple Hearts are awarded for injuries, but, more significantly, they are awarded when a service member is killed in wartime. Sometimes, that medal is the only "remains" the family has. That was the case with Ray Leon Jaques. His body is at the bottom of the Coral Sea. I can only imagine the tears cried over that medal by my great grandmother, who had lost her youngest son, her "baby" to the cold waters of the Pacific. To hang such a medal on the collar of a dog!! Outrageous!
Oh... and last but not least... my young cousin Raymie, named after Ray Leon so many years before... When he was four years old, he woke the household with screams of "Fire! FIRE!!" His mother, my cousin, dashed into his room to find the boy sitting up in bed staring straight ahead. When she woke him, he said "There was a big room, with lots of metal boxes! It was green and it was on fire! Where's Mama! I want Deedee!"
Rayme had always called his own mother "Mommy" *not* Mama. And Deedee was Mildred, his OWN grandmother (whom HE called "Gammie" NOT "Deedee"). Ray Leon had called Lenore Jaques, his mother "Mama" and he called his *sister* Mildred "Deedee"! Once fully awake, the four year old boy described the Lexington's radio room accurately, told them he had been "on a big boat that got on fire" and accurately named relatives who had been dead before he was born.
SageGrouse
You know they are.
But the point is to find stuff and enjoy it. If you're happy with your machine, you're happy. You'll know it when and if you want a better one.
Puppage
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What a great story.
Seven
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Great story and awesome find!
