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Tom_in_CA said:
Huh ? Well if you can't be there physically from the git-go, then ... how does someone metal detect ? haha
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That's a good question. I really don't have the complete answer to that. Some things are not so obvious. Some things are such as how attractive your wife is.:yes:
 
Well, I certainly did not expect to open such a huge can of worms by posting my excitement about gaining permission. Of course if there were no signs, I would have been comfortable just walking out there and detecting without any problems. But the signs and the fact that they mentioned "area under surveillance" made me feel cautious. What if the police show up? How would I explain myself when there are signs at every entrance? In addition, even though it was on a Saturday and the weather was outstanding, there was not a soul in the park; I assumed it was due to the signs. I agree that asking permission could be a bad idea, as once someone says no and you're caught, you have no excuse for being there. If you do not ask permission and are caught, you can play the "I didn't know" card. The signs trumped that possibility though.
 
It's not you man, they do it on every.single.permission.thread.

I think they must be writing a book because they are always asking questions like they're lawyers or something. Moths to a flame, they can not keep moving, they HAVE to open a permission thread and put in their 2 cents in :roll:

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archaeology22 said:
Well, I certainly did not expect to open such a huge can of worms by posting my excitement about gaining permission. Of course if there were no signs, I would have been comfortable just walking out there and detecting without any problems. But the signs and the fact that they mentioned "area under surveillance" made me feel cautious. What if the police show up? How would I explain myself when there are signs at every entrance? In addition, even though it was on a Saturday and the weather was outstanding, there was not a soul in the park; I assumed it was due to the signs. I agree that asking permission could be a bad idea, as once someone says no and you're caught, you have no excuse for being there. If you do not ask permission and are caught, you can play the "I didn't know" card. The signs trumped that possibility though.
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I wouldn't worry about opening up "a can of worms" as you put it. That can be said for most any post on any thread. Those that are worried about opening up the can of worms are usually not the ones interested in all the points you made in your original posts. They usually come to these threads and cut down those that want to discuss issues other than the simple "ask" issue. Good to see you are interested in more than one side of issues.
 
Tom and Kemp, you guys can make anything, no matter how simple, into something needlessly complicated. A guy saw a park that had no trespassing sign but he went ahead and asked anyway and was granted permission. Good for him! I know this runs counter to your mantra that all city officials are evil and will snap at any opportunity to tell detectorists "NO" but...it often happens that they are reasonable people and they do say "YES" if asked politely. It happens all the time. Get over it. Go troll somewheres else. :yes:
 
If they say yes that means you didn't have to ask. Unless there is a permit system in place.
 
stewart73 said:
Even with "NO TRESPASSING" signs posted? I would think in this case they are saying "yes" only because you asked.
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If another detectorist would see the Op detecting and decide to detect too would that person not be allowed to detect because he didn't ask?
 
Kemper said:
I wouldn't worry about opening up "a can of worms" as you put it. That can be said for most any post on any thread. Those that are worried about opening up the can of worms are usually not the ones interested in all the points you made in your original posts. They usually come to these threads and cut down those that want to discuss issues other than the simple "ask" issue. Good to see you are interested in more than one side of issues.
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Like me right? you guys love twisting and turning these threads into your own personal playgrounds... I got news for you its going to end...
 
archaeology22 said:
Pulled up to a 100+ year old middle school last Saturday to detect the adjacent park only to find "No Trespassing - area under surveillance" signs flanking every entrance. Very discouraging; however, I returned home and looked up the school and sent the principal an email requesting permission to hunt the area. She forwarded my request to the superintendent of schools who then submitted my request to the Mayor's office. Was just granted written permission today by the Mayor's chief of staff. Just goes to show you that instead of being discouraged and writing it off, it always helps to try to get permission. Good luck out there.
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Keep us posted and keep it friendly.:yes:
 
Kemper said:
Just because that worked in your state and city that may not be the case everywhere.
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I just want to make something clear - again. I do not ask for permission to hunt every public park that I find. If you read my original post, you will see that I went there with every intention of getting out of my car and spending the better part of the day detecting that park. It was the "no trespassing" signs that were the catalyst for my asking permission. It is clear that some of you would ignore these signs, but I try to obey the law the best I can. I am new to this forum and had I known this would cause such turmoil, I certainly would have kept this to myself.
 
archaeology22 said:
I just want to make something clear - again. I do not ask for permission to hunt every public park that I find. If you read my original post, you will see that I went there with every intention of getting out of my car and spending the better part of the day detecting that park. It was the "no trespassing" signs that were the catalyst for my asking permission. It is clear that some of you would ignore these signs, but I try to obey the law the best I can. I am new to this forum and had I known this would cause such turmoil, I certainly would have kept this to myself.
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I think we are in agreement on most issues. I can't speak for anyone else but I do not ignore signs. I try to find out what those signs mean. You found out that they did not mean no metal detecting.
 
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