NPS and National Seashore----KEEP OUT! "Possesion" of Metal Detector Illegal!

[canwedigit]

The possession aspect seems like B.S. I mean you could beat it in court because of selective enforcement. I mean you see "dig safe" using detectors all the time in towns in the sea shore. i been doing some research to figure out the east ward boundaries of the seashore. i don't think they can touch you in the water. In even private property below the mean high tide is governed by the Commonwealth. It would be a fun fight! the park service needs it's wing clipped and currently they are out of favor with the general public on the cape.

Don't go into the water either. I don't believe a fight over a felony with potential prison time would be much fun. Suing civilly? The Feds have unlimited legal funding. Good luck on that too.

 

[demyansk1942]

typical liberal law and I am sure the Kennedy's can do all the detecting they want on there not in my backyard wind mills while I jet around in my private jet.

 

[MrJeep]

National Park

If there is the word "National" in the title - do not bring a metal detector. Period. The Federal government is really persnickety about this.

National parks, national historic sites, national sea shores, etc, etc. They are all illegal to detect in. Depending upon the mood they are in, they can and will arrest you.

There is a town in South Jersey (Salem County) named "National Park". So I guess no one is allowed to own an assembled metal detector in that town.

 

[Michaeltime]

Here in Michigan I think a lot of parks are ok but that is all changing. Maybe because of how some search and leave holes not properly covered or the plain fact that summer heat kills grass that has been dug as a plug. Still plenty of opertunity to search a lot of the land. For those that know it Yankee Springs Park has limited area to do metal detecting . It once was campgrounds for the early settlers in that part of Michigan. Something I had read someplace at one time. I am kind of interested in checking out state hunting land and other woods and fields. I keep thinking of those that lived long ago and hunted and more than likely lost things hunting. Think of all the old homes that are steadly falling apart and unlivable as time goes on and will be abandoned eventually and owned by local government for resale.

M6 Mike
I once searched on property that they paid a guy to tear down the houses. I got there knowing they were up for back taxes and found some wheaties and merc dimes. I knew nobody would care as the land was going to be graded anyway to fill in the basements of two homes and the buyer was going to put up apartment buildings there.

 

[OBN]

Most states east of the Mississippi River have known Riparian Water Rights...

Don't go into the water either. I don't believe a fight over a felony with potential prison time would be much fun. Suing civilly? The Feds have unlimited legal funding. Good luck on that too.

They can't touch you in the water, if you come in by boat. Riparian Water Rights...navigable waters are public resources
Now if there are ship wrecks involved, you do have to check and see if these are protected..but most past the coast of Florida are open.

 

[XexorZ]

Is how it is in Sandy Hook beach, NJ.

No Go on sandy hook.

I believe their reason is that it was once a live-fire zone - lots of unexploded ordinance etc.

 

[XexorZ]

Yeah I was a little shocked by the "possesion" aspect of the law. I mean where I live it is basically impossible to travel anywhere with a detector without breaking the law. Seems like the law needs to be narrowed down a bit to prevent use on sites of historical significance or environmentally fragile areas. This "blanket all" law is overly vague and forcing people to disassemble and stow there detectors or face breaking a law. I live on Cape Cod, 80 percent of the Lower Cape is national seashore, most of it inland I might ad. Basically you CANNOT travel into or out of the entire town of Truro with an assembled/un-contained metal detector as the entire town border is within the park. We'll just keep passing new laws until everyone's either a criminal or a law enforcement official and nowhere in between.

Man I feel you brother... you really should check out tomwoods.com - that dude is a patriot.

 

[capteider]

Don't go into the water either. I don't believe a fight over a felony with potential prison time would be much fun. Suing civilly? The Feds have unlimited legal funding. Good luck on that too.

it not something recommend unless you do you homework. i was detained and they tried to arrest me for hunting with in the boundaries of national wildlife refuge. however i had done my homework. as it turns out i was right and let go. The don't have any jurisdiction as long as you stay in the water. Now you have to know the rules to the letter, you drift across the refuge and blast ducks all day. however if you anchor, push pole or any part of you or your boat comes in contact with the bottom your are in violation and in very deep trouble. now this isn't the case with all national wildlife refuges but it was a detail of the original treaty with the local and state government. What i'm saying you need to know the laws. Some times the "park Rangers" and their boss set up regulation or enforce regulations in a manner that makes their jobs easier and may not be to the letter of the law.
just because they say it don't make it so!!

 

[KWA]

need

feed back!
GL2U!

 

[canwedigit]

it not something recommend unless you do you homework. i was detained and they tried to arrest me for hunting with in the boundaries of national wildlife refuge. however i had done my homework. as it turns out i was right and let go. The don't have any jurisdiction as long as you stay in the water. Now you have to know the rules to the letter, you drift across the refuge and blast ducks all day. however if you anchor, push pole or any part of you or your boat comes in contact with the bottom your are in violation and in very deep trouble. now this isn't the case with all national wildlife refuges but it was a detail of the original treaty with the local and state government. What i'm saying you need to know the laws. Some times the "park Rangers" and their boss set up regulation or enforce regulations in a manner that makes their jobs easier and may not be to the letter of the law.
just because they say it don't make it so!!

How can you MD from a drifting and unanchored boat?

 

[gin&kin]

I think he is giving an example of knowing the law well. He said he was "blasting ducks"

 

[canwedigit]

I think he is giving an example of knowing the law well. He said he was "blasting ducks"

Yes, he meant knowing the law. What kind of restrictions are there in Japan?

 

[LebcoPAhunter]

I think it all boils down to the park service being the wussy kid taking their ball and going home. They also play the part of the bully at the same time with the mentality "if I can't have it no one can". I would say more but that might get me in trouble with the moderaters. Don't steal they hate the competition.

 

[gin&kin]

Yes, he meant knowing the law. What kind of restrictions are there in Japan?

Well, in MY opinion the personal freedoms here are greater than in other "free" countries like Australia (never been to the US so I cant say). These free countries are turning into nanny states. The laws regarding metal detecting in Japan are very vague but basically if you aren't doing anything too destructive or detecting on obviously historical sites, nobody really cares. Lots of people are curious (police included) but you just show them your junk and they are happy and move on.