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No more pulltab beach(Mc nears)

WildDigger said:
Do not go down with out a fight.... Ask if it is a new ordinance and ask to see it in writing.
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Actually I was hunting the grass near the pool and have not had problems
Before so I may go back in when its cold and lifeless.
Nobody there in the winter.
 
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McNears is a county park. I've detected there before. The only thing they can get you for is Ord. 3418 § 2 (part), 2004 10.03.030 or 10.04.020. First provision is about damage or tampering with facilities. Second is above damaging or removing grass and plants, specifically. Anyway, McNears is lame.
 
metaladdict said:
The county employee came over and said I can't dig or take anything out of thepark ......
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metaladdict said:
...Before so I may go back in when its cold and lifeless.....
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metal-addict, As rockymtnRider and Tyberoz have pointed out: The type things this lady has alluded to, is nothing but interpretation things. And as such: So-too can such verbiage be pulled out of ANY park or beach, ANYWHERE , to be construed to result in "no detecting". But generally, are not construed to do so . Especially at the beach for pete's sake.

The things about "dig" and "take" are pretty universal. Even if not using the specific word "dig", some park or beach person could cite "alter" or "deface", etc... But let's be honest, those things were never meant to stop kids from digging sand castles, or a man with a detector. And actually, so long as you fill in your hole, then you haven't defacED or alterED anything. But sure: You'll be on the loosing end of that debate of semantics.

And as for the "take", (aka "remove" and/or "harvest" clauses) same thing: If you stood on one foot and squinted real hard, then yes, we're all technically in violation. But seriously now, we KNOW why such verbiage exists: So that no clown thinks he can commercially harvest sand or sod, take home the park benches, etc.... Was it ever meant to stop someone from gathering up loose change? OF COURSE NOT. But *could* it be construed to mean that ? Sure.

Hence I agree with your conclusion just to avoid that one lone person. Just come back when that lady (who was perhaps just having a bad hair day) isn't around. Because if you go to fight it, or "get it clarified", you might just open up a can of worms.

I've run into persons like her before. And .... after giving it a rest, go back later, and never hear "boo" ever-more thereafter. In other words: fluke instances.
 
metaladdict said:
The county employee came over and said I can't dig or take anything out of thepark
So you might as well quit.:no:
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Did you show this employee all of the trash and potentially hazardous items you were "digging" and "taking" from the park? That might help change his/her mind.
 
rreahard said:
Did you show this employee all of the trash and potentially hazardous items you were "digging" and "taking" from the park? That might help change his/her mind.
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Ha, I tried that tactic one time with a parks guy who was griping: Showed him the misc. trash from my apron, implying : "see what a good public service job I'm doing?" :D But the park worker was much too wise, and quickly pointed out that the objects had been beneath the ground, hence a threat to no one.

About the *only* time this tactic might work, is if you showed a park or beach worker something like hypodermic needle from sand box. Or a screw cap with jagged glass still intact , from a sand box.

But for regular trash, especially from turf, it doesn't merit any points to any worker I've ever run into.
 
Tom_in_CA said:
Ha, I tried that tactic one time with a parks guy who was griping: Showed him the misc. trash from my apron, implying : "see what a good public service job I'm doing?" :D But the park worker was much too wise, and quickly pointed out that the objects had been beneath the ground, hence a threat to no one.

About the *only* time this tactic might work, is if you showed a park or beach worker something like hypodermic needle from sand box. Or a screw cap with jagged glass still intact , from a sand box.

But for regular trash, especially from turf, it doesn't merit any points to any worker I've ever run into.
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Understandable that it's not likely to change someone's mind, but I still feel like it'd be worth a try.
 
rockymtnrider said:
Marin County?

I was trying to look up the rules and didn't find any that specifically said anything about metal detecting, but it looks like they have some that they can interpret that will not let you dig.

https://www.nps.gov/goga/learn/management/upload/-1392-Marin-County-Parks-Rules-and-Regulations.pdf

I live in the east bay and East bay regional parks will sell a metal detecting permit, but will not let you dig in the grass but beach is ok.
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I was detecting once in tildon lake swim area and the lifegaurd said yoy need a permit to detect here.
 
Tyberoz said:
McNears is a county park. I've detected there before. The only thing they can get you for is Ord. 3418 § 2 (part), 2004 10.03.030 or 10.04.020. First provision is about damage or tampering with facilities. Second is above damaging or removing grass and plants, specifically. Anyway, McNears is lame.
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It is mostly lame except when I found a 18k white gold ring and a silver ring
 
Tom_in_CA said:
metal-addict, As rockymtnRider and Tyberoz have pointed out: The type things this lady has alluded to, is nothing but interpretation things. And as such: So-too can such verbiage be pulled out of ANY park or beach, ANYWHERE , to be construed to result in "no detecting". But generally, are not construed to do so . Especially at the beach for pete's sake.

The things about "dig" and "take" are pretty universal. Even if not using the specific word "dig", some park or beach person could cite "alter" or "deface", etc... But let's be honest, those things were never meant to stop kids from digging sand castles, or a man with a detector. And actually, so long as you fill in your hole, then you haven't defacED or alterED anything. But sure: You'll be on the loosing end of that debate of semantics.

And as for the "take", (aka "remove" and/or "harvest" clauses) same thing: If you stood on one foot and squinted real hard, then yes, we're all technically in violation. But seriously now, we KNOW why such verbiage exists: So that no clown thinks he can commercially harvest sand or sod, take home the park benches, etc.... Was it ever meant to stop someone from gathering up loose change? OF COURSE NOT. But *could* it be construed to mean that ? Sure.

Hence I agree with your conclusion just to avoid that one lone person. Just come back when that lady (who was perhaps just having a bad hair day) isn't around. Because if you go to fight it, or "get it clarified", you might just open up a can of worms.

I've run into persons like her before. And .... after giving it a rest, go back later, and never hear "boo" ever-more thereafter. In other words: fluke instances.
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Tom,it was a man on a big lawnmower. I know there is employee turnover
Also he isn't there always as other employees aren't either,just need to go on a weekend later on.
 
dirtydog said:
What can you say that louder? My hearing aids are home. Sorry I still can't hear you.:lol:
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I was just looking for the boyscout ring my dad lost here when he was a kid. If he still doesn't budge, then I betcha dollars to donuts he/they aren't "mowing the lawn" after 5pm. Or on holidays that land on Mondays at 6am, etc....

Actually, if I'm preparing to hunt turf, and see a "man on a mower", I choose another park. *Not* that I believe there's anything illegal about us, but just because, let's be honest: Detecting has ... uh .... "connotations".
 
Tom_in_CA said:
I was just looking for the boyscout ring my dad lost here when he was a kid. If he still doesn't budge, then I betcha dollars to donuts he/they aren't "mowing the lawn" after 5pm. Or on holidays that land on Mondays at 6am, etc....

Actually, if I'm preparing to hunt turf, and see a "man on a mower", I choose another park. *Not* that I believe there's anything illegal about us, but just because, let's be honest: Detecting has ... uh .... "connotations".
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Good idea to stay away when lawnmower man is present :yes:
 
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