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More Hints About A New Garret Release

I've been a user of Garrett for many years. In fact, our only metal detector dealer was a Garrett dealer when I first got started. I have used many Garretts in the past and can't remember ever being disappointed. They have always been good detectors.

I used the AT Pro for many years and would stack it up with the best. Although the ergonomics are not up to today's standards.
 
Years back I was running a Minelab E-Trac. It wasn’t waterproof so when the AT Pro was released I eagerly bought one. Less than 6 months later just as eagerly sold it. The Garrett just didn’t compare to what the Minelab could do for me. Garrett seems to be playing catch-up all the time, if anything. I hope they surprise me but I’m not holding my breath.
 
HungryGhost said:
Years back I was running a Minelab E-Trac. It wasn’t waterproof so when the AT Pro was released I eagerly bought one. Less than 6 months later just as eagerly sold it. The Garrett just didn’t compare to what the Minelab could do for me. Garrett seems to be playing catch-up all the time, if anything. I hope they surprise me but I’m not holding my breath.
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As much as I'm hoping for a Garrett breakthrough, I'm not holding my breath either.

I suspect the new Garrett machine will be yet another SMF detector that will priced around the same as the 900, and will be no better or worse than the current SMF offerings.

SMF technology was tapped out long ago. So unless they have some new technology, then meh.

Hmmm. I'm going to stick my neck out again, and be totally honest by saying not only do I think that what I described, will be Garretts new detector, but I also think it will have some new "feature" which sounds great on paper, but is actually gimmicky and almost useless in practice. Kind of like the Manticore's 2D screen :D. Flame suit on!
 
I was wrong about the Legend when I said no way could Nokta get close to the 800 on their first try. So I won't throw shade at Garretts new offering until I see it. Not that I would be in the market for another detector any time soon.
 
Digalicious said:
As much as I'm hoping for a Garrett breakthrough, I'm not holding my breath either.

I suspect the new Garrett machine will be yet another SMF detector that will priced around the same as the 900, and will be no better or worse than the current SMF offerings.

SMF technology was tapped out long ago. So unless they have some new technology, then meh.

Hmmm. I'm going to stick my neck out again, and be totally honest by saying not only do I think that what I described, will be Garretts new detector, but I also think it will have some new "feature" which sounds great on paper, but is actually gimmicky and almost useless in practice. Kind of like the Manticore's 2D screen :D. Flame suit on!
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I have to agree. I confess myself disappointed in detector technology.

I have tried all the newest greatest flagship detectors, other than the Manticore, which I get the impression would be the same just different, and I find them lacking. Yes, color TV with remote control and surround sound is cool, but I can be happy watching a black & white movie, getting up to change the channel, and mono sound. For the detectorists new to metal detecting these new features are cool stuff, but not anything I can't do without. Although I am spoiled with wireless headphones. I swung my 50 year old 5000D yesterday and realized it wasn't really that bad at this point in my detecting adventures.
 
Digalicious said:
As much as I'm hoping for a Garrett breakthrough, I'm not holding my breath either.

I suspect the new Garrett machine will be yet another SMF detector that will priced around the same as the 900, and will be no better or worse than the current SMF offerings.

SMF technology was tapped out long ago. So unless they have some new technology, then meh.

Hmmm. I'm going to stick my neck out again, and be totally honest by saying not only do I think that what I described, will be Garretts new detector, but I also think it will have some new "feature" which sounds great on paper, but is actually gimmicky and almost useless in practice. Kind of like the Manticore's 2D screen :D. Flame suit on!
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Yeah i don't need gimmicky stuff.i don't even need pinpoint button ,depth gage,notch disc,numerical id but thats me. i do think features do help sell some people use them and some people think they are cool even if they don't use them.The reason i'm buying a Storm is although my Apex is waterproof enough for most California style ocean hunting their are a couple beaches i want to snorkel and as good as my cz is for that it's my least fun detector
 
Digalicious said:
As much as I'm hoping for a Garrett breakthrough, I'm not holding my breath either.

I suspect the new Garrett machine will be yet another SMF detector that will priced around the same as the 900, and will be no better or worse than the current SMF offerings.

SMF technology was tapped out long ago. So unless they have some new technology, then meh.
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The reason I believe the above, is because if Garrett did have some game changing new technology, they would have patented the crap out of it, and started shouting it from the rooftops by now.
 
Digalicious said:
The reason I believe the above, is because if Garrett did have some game changing new technology, they would have patented the crap out of it, and started shouting it from the rooftops by now.
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I'm not sure I'd agree. I've never really known Garrett to toot their own horn like we see from the other big three.
 
Cherry Picker said:
I'm not sure I'd agree. I've never really known Garrett to toot their own horn like we see from the other big three.
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When was the last time Garrett (or any other manufacturer) had a game changer to warrant tooting their horn? To me, the last game changer was discrimination, and possibly SMF for mineralized ground.

Getting back to Garrett. Let's say Garrett created actual game changing technology. At this point, the only game changing technology would be the ability to distinguish between trash and treasure, or even the ability to distinguish between aluminum and gold. If they had such patented, holy grail, game changing technology, I would think they would be saying a heck a of a lot more than "We have a new detector coming out".
 
Digalicious said:
When was the last time Garrett (or any other manufacturer) had a game changer to warrant tooting their horn? To me, the last game changer was discrimination, and possibly SMF for mineralized ground.

Getting back to Garrett. Let's say Garrett created actual game changing technology. At this point, the only game changing technology would be the ability to distinguish between trash and treasure, or even the ability to distinguish between aluminum and gold. If they had such patented, holy grail, game changing technology, I would think they would be saying a heck a of a lot more than "We have a new detector coming out".
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I see many other possibilities myself. Target Trace is in its infancy in my opinion. A lo of potential waits to be used.

AI. I still believe in the very near future we are going to see AI as a major selling point. Especially in entry-level detectors. AI has the potential to eliminate what now takes years of experience to accomplish for new users.

I know I talk up AI a lot, but I spent my last 25 years of work for HCA & Lifepoint Hospitals where computers were just being explored for hospital use. Part of my job was to find ways for computers to do jobs better and more efficiently than humans. Imagine the impossible and making it happen was a big part of my job. I see the same with metal detectors. The future is there just waiting to be explored.
 
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Digalicious said:
When was the last time Garrett (or any other manufacturer) had a game changer to warrant tooting their horn? To me, the last game changer was discrimination, and possibly SMF for mineralized ground.

Getting back to Garrett. Let's say Garrett created actual game changing technology. At this point, the only game changing technology would be the ability to distinguish between trash and treasure, or even the ability to distinguish between aluminum and gold. If they had such patented, holy grail, game changing technology, I would think they would be saying a heck a of a lot more than "We have a new detector coming out".
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I don't mind Garrett, but also a Minelab fan, and sure many more I don't have practice with ? It would be fun to just buy what comes out, but not me, if I lived in better area, maybe !
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Cherry Picker said:
I see many other possibilities myself. Target Trace is in its infancy in my opinion.
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Like Target Trace on the Manticore, which is a simple ID plotter? If so, TT can't give any more information than TID and tones already does, so how do you propose it grow out of its infancy?
 
Digalicious said:
Like Target Trace on the Manticore, which is a simple ID plotter? If so, TT can't give any more information than TID and tones already does, so how do you propose it grow out of its infancy?
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If I knew the answer I sure wouldn't be living off social security LOL. All I can say is we have only begun to touch the possibilities of AI.
 
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