Moral Dilema.......Opinons Needed

The kid was 15. He stole the coin from his grandfather's collection. He had been selling coins all morning to people at twice their value because he was going to buy drugs later.

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coin_master is gone. he cannot defend hisself............................
 
I would feel ok as long as I was sure he wasn't selling his dads coin collection

I also would wonder whose coins they we're if he really has them. He seems to be knowlagable about older rare coins for a 10 yr. old. If he really found it and it wasn't a ruse to cover for having the coin then, well i don't think i could in good consience take advantage of a ten yr.old kid. General, you know what is the right thing for you to do, You don't need our help. Its all about what you can live with comfortably without remorse.:cool::yes:
 
Your opinion is the only one that matters on this subject. You did it and if you don't feel good about it, no one else is going to lose any sleep over it. Just saying.
 
Im just messing with ya. I would have told him I dropped it and was just coming back to look for it. Personally I would sell a blind man a goats ******* for a wedding ring..........

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What should be a bigger concern is you hanging out with a 9 year old girl who is not your own daughter.I am sure it's innocent and you were being kind but you are putting yourself in a bad situation if she makes an allegation.Any training I have ever recieved regarding this matter has always said an adult who is not the childs parent should never be alone with a child.Always have another adult with you when alone with a child.If you are taking this child I would bring your wife with you every single time.About the coin, reach down in your heart and you will find the answer.If you are asking this question I think you already know the answer.Good luck

Oh, come on! My wife was at work. BTW, she works with special needs kids. Our neighbors also know that I have worked with dozens of troubled kids in the past thru law enforcement. We are always hosting events at our home where kids and their parents participate. Hannah also called and got permission before we left. Good grief! But....I do agree with your last comment. Thanks.
 
Since the kid was only 10 or so years old I feel you took advantage of his young age and lack of knowledge of what the value was. It's not worth it to me to or my conscience to make a few bucks from a naive kid. If it's worth 12 bucks I would have offered him close to that. A few bucks is nothing to an adult but it's like a fortune to a 10 year old.
 
here's what i would of done........i would of let the kid buy a soda with it...... then ask the cashier if i could have that half for 50 cents :lol:

dogpound......You crack me up!:lol: Would love to spend a day or two detecting with you my friend.
 
dogpound......You crack me up!:lol: Would love to spend a day or two detecting with you my friend.

well Patton if ya ever get out towards the east coast look me up, i'd be honored ta hunt with ya
 
patton...first i would like to say i think you have wisdom...the answer to this matter is yours and yours alone...to all who took this to places where it didnt need to go that was your choice sit back and think about that....it was a question of morals and morals were shown whether positive or negative....right or wrong is not the issue here...in defense of patton...the good sir came to us for thought...as far as the moral discusion the boy asked a dollar patton accepted and made good on the agreed apon transaction...as to the origins of said half dollar is mute...for if a situation were to arise as of the origins hounestly it is clear that patton would with humbleness and respect return it to its right ful owner...so for the record patton it stands to say you handled this issue in a honarable and comendable way!!! sorry yall for any spelling errors

Thanks for your post! I am humbled by it. I posted this thread knowing I would get good and bad. That's fine. I'm a big boy. But.... some of our members took it upon themselves to post hurtfull and outright false accusations at my character. Don't understand why. I now know why a lot of our members tell me why they are afraid to post anything on our forum. Its to bad. Misguided comments and innuendos are wrong and don't help. Period.
 
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here's a better question.............why was a 10 yr old at the kwik mart without his parents
 
The kid was 15. He stole the coin from his grandfather's collection. He had been selling coins all morning to people at twice their value because he was going to buy drugs later.

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You may be very well correct my friend. I hope to know the truth one day. I am going to seek him out until I find him and ask him about the coin.
 
I also would wonder whose coins they we're if he really has them. He seems to be knowlagable about older rare coins for a 10 yr. old. If he really found it and it wasn't a ruse to cover for having the coin then, well i don't think i could in good consience take advantage of a ten yr.old kid. General, you know what is the right thing for you to do, You don't need our help. Its all about what you can live with comfortably without remorse.:cool::yes:

Well said sir. And....you are right.
 
I could go two ways on this......

1) That coin does not look like it was "found". Not found anywhere but from within a coin collection, that is. So shiny and taken care of? My hunch is that it didn't belong to any 10 year old until he took it from a friend or family member, or the family member of a friend.

Especially since he's talking about other coins. Kids are parrots, he is repeating what he has heard. What 10 year old knows about Morgan dollars? Someone at his house or a friend's house is collecting coins, talking about them to someone (maybe him) and he knows where they are. Boom, he picks up a $1 coin and can make another dollar on it, because he is 10 years old and doesn't know the worth.

In this case, that coin is stolen, not bought. Would I take it? Well maybe. Read on.

2) Maybe the kid was the legitimate owner of the coin. Maybe he did "find" it fair and square. Once I found 3 or 4 half dollars while cleaning out a desk in an National Guard armory we were closing. They're currently in my coin drawer. Maybe a friend or family member gave him the coin as a gift and he decided he wanted to convert it into liquid currency to use for candy or whatever. He is a 10 year old kid after all. I've received coins for birthdays, XMas, etc, it's very possible the kid received it this way. If that's the case, he has the right to sell it for whatever he wants. If he asked $2 then you made him happy. This could explain the great condition of the coin.

If it were me, I would give the kid the benefit of the doubt and make the purchase. He's 10, if he doesn't sell that coin to you for $2 today, he'll sell it to somebody else tomorrow, or trade it for pokemon cards, or lose it. Could it be stolen from another coin collector? Yes, but don't we run that risk with anything bought second hand?
 
here's a better question.............why was a 10 yr old at the kwik mart without his parents

Good question. There were about 5 or 6 all together. Sadly, two or three of them had packs of cigarettes rolled up in their sleeves. They were easy to spot as they were a tad loud and laughing a lot. When we left them, a manager was talking to them.
 
In my opinion it wasn't the right thing to do. I think you coming here and making this post you kind of knew that already. You would have been better off giving this kid a lesson in why the coin is worth more than 50 cents. Then giving him your card in hopes of possibly getting more coins cheap was also a bad idea. Heck, it's 2012, I ain't even looking at a 10 year old for fear of what's going on in the world. Everybody is hyper-sensitive about this kind of stuff. I've watched too many episodes 'To catch a predator' to even put myself in that situation. Everyday I walk past these two girls on the way to work, maybe 8 or 9 years old. I intentionally walk on the opposite side of the street till I get past them, just in case. Maybe it's different in small town America but here, better safe than sorry. Good luck with whatever decision you make.
 
I could go two ways on this......

1) That coin does not look like it was "found". Not found anywhere but from within a coin collection, that is. So shiny and taken care of? My hunch is that it didn't belong to any 10 year old until he took it from a friend or family member, or the family member of a friend.

Especially since he's talking about other coins. Kids are parrots, he is repeating what he has heard. What 10 year old knows about Morgan dollars? Someone at his house or a friend's house is collecting coins, talking about them to someone (maybe him) and he knows where they are. Boom, he picks up a $1 coin and can make another dollar on it, because he is 10 years old and doesn't know the worth.

In this case, that coin is stolen, not bought. Would I take it? Well maybe. Read on.

2) Maybe the kid was the legitimate owner of the coin. Maybe he did "find" it fair and square. Once I found 3 or 4 half dollars while cleaning out a desk in an National Guard armory we were closing. They're currently in my coin drawer. Maybe a friend or family member gave him the coin as a gift and he decided he wanted to convert it into liquid currency to use for candy or whatever. He is a 10 year old kid after all. I've received coins for birthdays, XMas, etc, it's very possible the kid received it this way. If that's the case, he has the right to sell it for whatever he wants. If he asked $2 then you made him happy. This could explain the great condition of the coin.

If it were me, I would give the kid the benefit of the doubt and make the purchase. He's 10, if he doesn't sell that coin to you for $2 today, he'll sell it to somebody else tomorrow, or trade it for pokemon cards, or lose it. Could it be stolen from another coin collector? Yes, but don't we run that risk with anything bought second hand?

Great comments . You bring up some interesting scenarios that I have to admit I didn't contemplate. Thanks for taking the time to post.
 
In my opinion it wasn't the right thing to do. I think you coming here and making this post you kind of knew that already. You would have been better off giving this kid a lesson in why the coin is worth more than 50 cents. Then giving him your card in hopes of possibly getting more coins cheap was also a bad idea. Heck, it's 2012, I ain't even looking at a 10 year old for fear of what's going on in the world. Everybody is hyper-sensitive about this kind of stuff. I've watched too many episodes 'To catch a predator' to even put myself in that situation. Everyday I walk past these two girls on the way to work, maybe 8 or 9 years old. I intentionally walk on the opposite side of the street till I get past them, just in case. Maybe it's different in small town America but here, better safe than sorry. Good luck with whatever decision you make.

Thanks for your post. I did give him my card in case he lost or decided to sell some coins. But I guarantee you, I would have checked with his parents first before buying anything. If he refused, no dice. Also, If you knew me, you would know that my real intent was to provide a way of him contacting me if indeed the coin was stolen, and he was gonna take a beating. I have seen enough of that in my years of law enforcement.
 
your first half of this statement is totally innapropriate and its because of statements like that that total innocence gets a bad name! who are you to judge a persons morality and character and then tell them how to live?! shame on you[/QUOTE

Thats your opinion.I am not judging anyone.If you read my comment I am trying to give him good advise.If you have seen what I have my friend you would not question my intentions.Like I said just have another adult with you,it's advise not accusatory.Sounds like you are the one the judging me.Shame on me like i am a little kid.
 
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