How to pick the right curb strip for old coins

these are my favorite. old granite curbs. theres a few streets with these in the neighboring town, and also in a larger extremely old town on the coast there are a ton of these as well as sidewalks made of octagonal stones.
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Drool.... I'm sure that's quite attractive too! Also, I notice that the grass is very even with the curb. Little to no buil-up=original grass



I'm having an issue loading all the photos I wanted, so we will make do with what we have.

As mentioned above when a building makes it into the National Register of Historic Places it is almost always given a placard that represents that. I am always on the look out for such placards


This next picture will be kind of 1 small part and then a larger part



Notice the size of these tree's... BIG for a curb strip. Because those trees are there, I know that at SOME point an old house sat near it. (In this case this is in front of the Sims House built in 1886) Also, because those tree's are there I know that that strip is just about as original as they come.
What you don't see in the picture too clearly is that the sidewalk is rather ratty and pushed up like this


Not the same house or curb strip, but similar sized tree and it shows what to look for. When you see a sidewalk like this, look to your immediate left and hope there is grass on the field. This sidewalk has probably taken DECADES for this size tree to have pushed up this sidewalk from its roots. Exposed roots, pushed up sidewalks, heavily cracked sidewalks, brick sidewalks, ALL good indicators that this sidewalk has been around longer than others may think.

Another thing to look for was mentioned above and that's dates on the curb or brass tags that have the date. In our town we don't have these per say, but we do have our "original" street names etched into the beginning and end of each curb like so


Now this doesn't mean much to those that aren't sure what to look for (how does a name work better than a date? It doesn't), but if you notice the grain of the cement used again, you will see that it is much more coarse than you would see on a sidewalk that was laid down last week. The more coarse the older it is until you get to bricks or dirt. Also notice the sections it's cut in. Much larger than they would be if they were to replace it tomorrow. Again, look at those cracks! That's not from just 1 fat baby stroller, but decades worth of fat baby strollers!


This is the same Sims house curb from the other side. Notice the erosion happening in the corner of the curb? That's not from a meter being put in (checked to make sure) that's because that curb is original grass and it's seen some action. Those 4 huge tree's are keeping that curb from having sod laid down like they did in sections of the yard (not sure why just sections)


Tomorrow we talk sprinklers and angles
 
quick question Swing - what about gas pipes on a curb. are they in range of our machine? i kinda worry about it when i was digging. thanks
 
What a great thread! Thanks for starting it Swing360, and thanks to everyone else for your contributions!
 
quick question Swing - what about gas pipes on a curb. are they in range of our machine? i kinda worry about it when i was digging. thanks

I have definitely hit some pipes... Some have been old, some have been new PVC pipe, some have been old clay water pipes that are defunct, I have even seen an old wooden water pipe in a street tear out.

I however have NO idea WHAT kind of pipes these are. As soon as i get to one I ALWAYS cover up and call it good on that target. It's not worth paying the city to fix a water leak or a home owner for repairing the sprinkler system they installed on the strip. One thing to remember is that the pipes all run 1 direction (for the most part until they get uner the street), so if you have already found it, chances are you are safe right to left. Remember to still be cautious because some sprinkler systems sound like a quarter on the surface right up against the curb on both sides usually 6-12 ft spacing I've noticed.

Not all curb strips have pipes and RARELY do I chase a signal that deep, but I have come across some shotty work that was too shallow on more than one occasion
 
GReat thread! I have never seen a brass tag in my city, but the oldest sidewalk left still have WPA stamped into them. I always keep my eyes open for these.
 
Quick Questions:
1) Are all curb strips, "easements" or "city right of ways" public property? Or is that something that is different per city/state?

2) When detecting smaller areas like that do you use a sniper or smaller coil?

Thanks for taking the time to do all this, very informative!
 
Quick Questions:
1) Are all curb strips, "easements" or "city right of ways" public property? Or is that something that is different per city/state?

2) When detecting smaller areas like that do you use a sniper or smaller coil?

Thanks for taking the time to do all this, very informative!

NO, all curb strips are NOT public property. The best thing to do is call your local police departments (they will be the ones that come when the home owner calls on you) non emergency # and ask very simply "Are the Curb strips, or easements in the city of "______" owned BY the city or Home owner" No more, No less. The question is direct and because it involves a potential for "trespassing" they will give you the correct information you need. You don't need to mention metal detecting. I promise.

With that said, I have only encountered ONE (1) Curb strip over several states that was added and owned by the home owner and she was VERY nice abut it . She didn't want me there, but gave me permission to do her 1880's B&B a mile down the road.

I have the stock coil on my ATP (8.5X11). I know and understand that you get better separation with a smaller coil (5X8 being the preferred) but for me that is a test I plan on doing this winter. I am fairly confident in saying I can separate any two targets and differentiate a dig/don't dig signal just as good as the guy with the 5x8. It may take me a bit longer walking around it, but I'm not here to do things fast. I go slow slow and get good results.
I have HUNDREDS of hours on my ATP though... I definately know what it's telling me. I run zero disc, full sens (ALWAYS) Pro Zero and frequency depends on what EMI allows and what I'm looking for.
To be 100% honest this year is the first year we REALLY clicked though. I've gone slower and have been pulling deeper masked targets that me and everyone else has missed (that's in my range) and on most I wonder how I missed them before...
 
1 of the picures I wanted to upload just did for some reason, so i am going to blab about it for a second


This curb strip has NO curb on the street side at all. In looking at it you can see it never has. Just to the left is a 1880's church. What I like about this is it tells me that in the 10's,20's,30's etc that the cars pulled up on or closer to this than your average curb more than if an actual curb was there. Because of this the first 3-5 feet closest to the street will be trashier, but will also have a potential for old masked coins and jewelry. Go slow and take it all. I always seem to do well on tokens and lipstick tubes in these situations (could be coincidence)

The picture doesn't show it too well, but if you look close the grass slopes down from where cars have been edging up on it and the tires create wear. If there are coins or jewelry there the slope will throw the signal and make things usually sound jumpy and lean towards a higher tone than normal. Go slow... hit it from multiple angles and dig the shallow surface signals. I dug a 1900 indian in beautiful condition that was on the surface but on the bottom of the slope. Why? Cars edging up pulled that coin out over time and I walked over it twice before I dug it thinking it was just a fresh drop.

Also, notice the thin patchy grass? Sod doesn't look like that. That dirt is original
 
This is an area I never thought to try. Living in Massachusetts, there should be all kinds of really old strips to hit.

OMG... you are missing out my friend! Please, go hit a curb strip and come back and share your results here as well.
 
This thread has some great information. Thanks for getting it started Swing!

No problem. I'm glad I have something to contribute considering I've learned significantly more from here than I have contributed.
 
Awesome thread! I have recently began exploring the world of curb strips and already have been seeing great results. Good info that I hadn't thought of yet so I will be putting it to use!
 
Awesome thread! I have recently began exploring the world of curb strips and already have been seeing great results. Good info that I hadn't thought of yet so I will be putting it to use!

Excellent! That's what I was going for with this. I hope everyone prospers like many did with Robs pull tab contest. I bet more people pulled gold this season that wouldn't have otherwise :laughing: I love it.

I've actually done well on rings on the strip, so hopefully silver and gold is that much closer to everyone's future with this.
 
Good thread ! Up until now Ive just been randomly hitting curbstrips , this reminds me that there are clues to look for that can help locate the better ones. I love the ones loaded with clad too but Id rather be finding silver. I find silver rings in the clad infested ones but coins are much better.
 
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