Here's the speed and cost of a typical SMF processor.

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The new Quest "Hyper IQ" detectors, use a Cortex-M7 STM32H750 controller. Other SMF detectors would use the same, or a similar controller.

The speed of that controller is a measly 480 MHz. Yet, that is enough to run a modern SMF detector.

Cost for that controller? $3 to $6.
 
The speed of that controller is a measly 480 MHz. Yet, that is enough to run a modern SMF detector.
Other than an FFT to decompose the transmit wave form into individual frequencies, there really isn't anything computationally expensive going on in SMF detectors.
 
I'm sure the folks who own and use one appreciate you're comment.

Steve
I've never even heard of these but they look like some pretty cool machines! A lot of big words on the sales pitch tho. I wouldn't hate giving one a try! I do wonder though, what's the real world in the field differences when out detecting???
 
"Quest" is not a real detector.

What do you mean "not real"? Are they made out of painted paper mache? :D


Other than an FFT to decompose the transmit wave form into individual frequencies, there really isn't anything computationally expensive going on in SMF detectors.
Exactly AC! That was the point of my post :thumbsup:

...not just to debunk the myth that the "processor is the bottleneck", but also to show how dirt cheap detector processors are to purchase.
 
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I've never even heard of these but they look like some pretty cool machines! A lot of big words on the sales pitch tho. I wouldn't hate giving one a try! I do wonder though, what's the real world in the field differences when out detecting???
They make competitive detectors at low prices.

I've come across a few experienced hunters that own them, and they give them a thumbs up. Their newest SMF detectors, use the same technology as the Nox. That's why their new SMF detectors can't be purchased in the U.S., but all their other detectors can.

 
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They make competitive detectors at low prices.

I've come across a few experienced hunters that own them, and they give them a thumbs up. In fact, their newest SMF detectors, use the same technology as the Nox.

Fair enough prices! Same ball park as the Nokta with a lot more big fancy words LOL. I wouldn't mind giving one a shot!
 
Exactly AC! That was the point of my post :thumbsup:

...not just to debunk the myth that the "processor is the bottleneck", but also to show how dirt cheap detector processors are to purchase.
Yup, totally agreed. Processor speed nowadays is in no ways related to performance.

It's nice to know that my detector costs about $38 to make , minus the labor. And I get ripped $899 landed. Awesome feeling.
Haha, R&D isn't cheap.
 
They make competitive detectors at low prices.

I've come across a few experienced hunters that own them, and they give them a thumbs up. Their newest SMF detectors, use the same technology as the Nox. That's why their new SMF detectors can't be purchased in the U.S., but all their other detectors can.

Would like to compare this with my Manticore in the water!!

This is the first I have heard about it!

CJ
 
They make competitive detectors at low prices.

I've come across a few experienced hunters that own them, and they give them a thumbs up. Their newest SMF detectors, use the same technology as the Nox. That's why their new SMF detectors can't be purchased in the U.S., but all their other detectors can.

That is actually not a bad starter set up. Looks light, and compact. Also the screen glare feature is pretty cool.
 
It's nice to know that my detector costs about $38 to make , minus the labor.
Yup, Remember that the next time a 1.6k detector comes along. You're getting ripped off, plain and simple.

Haha, R&D isn't cheap.

That's the lame excuse they pull when confronted about the actual cost to make a metal detector. Same baloney the drug companies pull when you ask them why their drug costs $40 a pill. They know their legal buddies will prevent anyone from producing a generic version of the drug for up to 20 years, so they make 1000 times over their original R&D cost by the time those protections runs out. Corruption runs deep in this world...
 
It's nice to know that my detector costs about $38 to make , minus the labor. And I get ripped $899 landed. Awesome feeling.
$38 in raw material? I know that the BOM for just the PCB is typically in the $50 range. In any case, I suggest you buy all the raw parts and build your own detector, including writing all the software. Oh, and you also have to buy all the tooling for the injected plastic. One way or the other, you'll feel better.

I always love these threads where people who have no idea about what it takes to create a product complain about what they have to pay for the product. My suggestion is, don't buy it.
 
I always love these threads where people who have no idea about what it takes to create a product complain about what they have to pay for the product. My suggestion is, don't buy it.
Fair enough Carl, but that wasn't the point of my post.

My post was to disprove the idea that the controller is the bottle neck in detector speed. I only showed the price of $3 to 5$ to additionally prove that even if that controller wasn't fast / powerful enough, it wouldn't take much more money to get a much better controller.
 
$38 in raw material? I know that the BOM for just the PCB is typically in the $50 range. In any case, I suggest you buy all the raw parts and build your own detector, including writing all the software. Oh, and you also have to buy all the tooling for the injected plastic. One way or the other, you'll feel better.

I always love these threads where people who have no idea about what it takes to create a product complain about what they have to pay for the product. My suggestion is, don't buy it.
Duh... This is business 101 , which I'm well aware of. The exact details idk because I'm not in it. But it's rampant everywhere. Just saying it could be better. Take Nokta. There profit taking for the product they sell is much lower that say ML or XP....1 of my fields of expertise was in the pest/termite control industry. Talk about a ripoff. Devil is in the details of course but the cost of actual chemical used on a home was maybe $5-$10. Yet the cost to the customer to treat their home was anywhere from $500-$1600.🤣
 
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