General Discussion: There's a big difference between hunting for coins, and finding rings, vs. hunting for rings and finding coins...

[Skippy SH13]

There's absolutely no way you can prove that anyone is leaving the valuable stuff behind. It's certainly possible and even probable but it's strictly speculation. You said yourself that you ignore certain signals so it's VERY possible that you too are leaving good stuff behind. Your estimate of better than 30% gold rings is also nothing more than speculation. What are you basing your estimate on? In your original post you claim to dig $1.50 per hour in clad but now you're up to $2.60???
In the meantime....I wish you good luck finding more gold rings and doing what you do.

As for proof, it's in my experience. I cannot tell you how many parks and schools I've detected "behind" folks who miss the gold, because they're looking for silver. It's hardly a stretch, when there is a statement out there, that people are intentionally notching out all 40's and 60's to say they're missing gold. If you don't want to believe it. Don't. Doesn't make me wrong.

Regarding the differences in $$ counts per hour, it's easily explainable:

My original post was based on my 2018 hunts return of $1.60 an hour. My latest one of $2.60 an hour is based on the calculation of the 2019 results (which I hadn't done yet)
"Most of my hunts average less than 90 minutes. I had 89 hunts last year and $438 in clad. That's an average of $4.92 a hunt." at 90 minutes per hunt (average), that's about $2.60 an hour.​

My estimate of just a 1/3 chance of finding a gold ring in that field is based on my experience, not random speculation. If that person has actually found $20 in quarters, a 1/3 chance of finding a gold ring is actually very much in line. I'd put it higher in my own neighborhood (like as in 80%+), because that many quarters means that it's not been detected. In such a field around here, I'd actually EXPECT to find gold. But based on the little I know about that location, I lowered it.

You can bark all you want about my numbers. It's based on my experience. If you want to say my experience is bogus, what's yours? Rather than poo poo on my numbers, tell me what YOU have learned. I'm here trying to help people find MORE gold... Nothing more. If you want to disagree about how to do that, be my guest! Help people.


Cheers!

Skippy

 

[Skippy SH13]

The soccer field of dreams....5 gold rings and 21 silver ones in one lone soccer field ? You are the king !

Yeah, that one was a true beauty... I don't think anyone had detected it in about 15 years.. My son and I hit it HARD for 3 days. That kind of experience hasn't ever been replicated in so few hunts.

Closest I came, was this year in an Elementary school. I pulled 5 gold rings out in 3 hunts, 1st hunt had 4 golds + 1 junk, second hunt was 12 rings (one silver), Third hunt was the final gold and 2 junks. But there was hardly any cash. I don't think I cleared more than a few bucks on any one hunt.

The school yard had been pretty well cleared of quarters and dimes... AND... the gold in the elementary school was small ladies stuff. The rings in the high School were chunky wedding ones. LOL One of them even rang up a solid 71. I remember it very clearly, because I had gone behind my son (about 40 minutes behind him) who was using an ACE 350, and had SKIPPED the signal because it rang up just like a penny (I was using a recently acquired AT Pro and was in the first 20 hours "digging it all" phase). He was devastated, because it was an 11 gram 14K gold ring. He even knew exactly where the signal was beside the concrete. Never forget that one. helped me really set in stone to not skip penny signals. It's more than paid off over the years.

I love it when I find a ripe spot... but they're had to come by! usually have to find a place that is "out of the way" of major roads.

 

[Skippy SH13]

Thanks for the time and effort of a good response. One thing you seem to be saying is that junk rings sound enough like gold rings to learn them. Or, at least, more like each other than either sound like common park trash. I don't have a bunch of gold rings lying around to test, but I do have junk rings! I admit I've never spent any time trying to hear the differences. As others have said, they're incidental to finding coins and always a complete surprise.

Actually, yeah.. I didn't say that directly, but absolutely. I find a lot of rings that when I dig them, I'm thinking "Oh, PLEASE be gold" and they're just pot metal. The only major clue I get when I'm digging the ring is how the pinpointer behaves. With a gold ring, the pin pointer will actually sound off from further away. Junk metal rings, you've got to get closer. So... by the time I'm actually pulling it out, my brain has a clue, so it's not such a big let down... but sometimes I get surprised by deep rings. Where the pin pointer isn't going nuts, and I think it's shallow, but when I pull the plug flap (thinking the ring is going to be in it), the ring is in the bottom of the hole. The nature of gold is such that dirt kind of falls off of it, so it usually has a nice shiny glint in the hole. I LOVE that experience.

You definitely can use the junk rings (especially tungsten and titanium) to practice against trash. the solid shape makes a sharper beep, rather than a woo or ooop sound.

Skippy