Fisher Impulse AQ Limited Launch!

[lytle78]

The nail and ring videos are not tricks. I have done it myself with my (now Joe's AQ). In tone mode the nails give a low tone and the ring a high tone and you hear them both. In the Mute mode you her only the high tone of the ring.

Neither the designer - Alexandre, not the chief development tester Denis (LE.JAG) are tricksters or charlatans.

In more complex environments with multiple targets it can get a bit hectic, especially in tone mode.

As far as "It did seem to be marketed as being a machine that had excellent discrimination abilities to rival that of any pulse machine before it. "

It WAS marketed that way and its discrimination abilities not only rival, but I will argue, exceed any PI that has come before it. The only contender would be the TDI or the Eric Foster Goldquest which preceded it and these machines have very limited usable depth with the GB on and no discrimination at all with it off.

With only 8 units out there and no one except OBN really doing systematic investigation of the capabilities, new examples of how it performs in the field are scarce. They will come. I have over 60 buyers waiting for the production to finally get moving in El Paso. They are still very badly affected by COVID19 restrictions on the number of employees allowed to work.

 

[KOB]

The nail and ring videos are not tricks. I have done it myself with my (now Joe's AQ). In tone mode the nails give a low tone and the ring a high tone and you hear them both. In the Mute mode you her only the high tone of the ring.

Neither the designer - Alexandre, not the chief development tester Denis (LE.JAG) are tricksters or charlatans.

In more complex environments with multiple targets it can get a bit hectic, especially in tone mode.

As far as "It did seem to be marketed as being a machine that had excellent discrimination abilities to rival that of any pulse machine before it. "

It WAS marketed that way and its discrimination abilities not only rival, but I will argue, exceed any PI that has come before it. The only contender would be the TDI or the Eric Foster Goldquest which preceded it and these machines have very limited usable depth with the GB on and no discrimination at all with it off.

With only 8 units out there and no one except OBN really doing systematic investigation of the capabilities, new examples of how it performs in the field are scarce. They will come. I have over 60 buyers waiting for the production to finally get moving in El Paso. They are still very badly affected by COVID19 restrictions on the number of employees allowed to work.

I can't recall seeing a test with both the ring and nails buried say....18". Is there one ? And in mute mode. I keep forgetting about the covid inregards to parts , manufacturing of detectors and getting them out there. But I've still been hunting with my DF and it works. For how long ? Idk....but I am definitely in the market for another detector. Thanks...

 

[lytle78]

nails on the surface and a ring 18" down - I have no knowledge, but I would expect that a nail or two would be silent in mute - whether the ring would give a high tone or be masked is an excellent question.

Here is a clip of a ring, covered by 2 nails under what looks to me like about 6" of highly magnetic black volcanic sand. At about the 9 minute mark in this video of an AQ (Manta) prototype.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubQ8sMSADSE&t=1019s

 

[Sandcrab]

"Its hilarious that it was billed that it only finds gold... its a PI it finds everything... I get it.. it was a selling point.. and the guy who said all these wonderful things has been MIA here... "

If you are referring to me - I never said that the AQ finds only gold - that would be false and stupid as well. I probably did say that it has been specifically and carefully engineered to excel at finding gold jewelry at the beach.

If you were referring to someone else - then sorry to interrupt your fun.

Ah the backtracking begins... I am sure anyone can find enough posts by you that can actually be questioned. From little to no depth loss, to 10% depth loss to the deepest machine on the beach. That is just for starters... But then again you could be going back and editing everything you posted, nothing would surprise me...

Like there is only one one person in the whole world that actually looked at the GS5/TDI and thought "I could make this better..."

Everyone quickly forgets the TDI BH condensation issues..And try send them in now..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWLkrct5vfw

I feel very bad for those that do own any Whites, not just the water machines. They were excellent on there customer service. RIP now

I have not forgotten... My first beach hunter had a bad coil out of the gate, but I post it downfalls. Do you??? Or the other Fisher machine that had a broken connector. Would that be 2 of how many, if you want to state facts.

Nor have I forgotten how you were told something in confidence, and then choose to break that confidence and tell how many others that I was testing a coil. Which in reality I was testing more than a coil... But boy you sure don't talk about areas you hunt at, interesting what you choose to share and keep quiet on... If you only knew the back story and whom that could have affected... Either way you still shared it and it ended up on a forum from someone else...

So are you compromised being one of the first getting the machine, was it a fluke/coincidence when and why you started posting on a forum things that you did? Sure did seem to want to show finds from the past, was there an ulterior motive behind it? Yet you seem real careful on actually pointing out any real downfalls, but boy you want to push the depth.

3"-4" inches deeper than the TDI, really? Have seen posts on that board saying the TDI was hitting 18" on a gold ring. That poster was not trying to push the flavor of the month. So you want to boast 18/19" then in your world the TDI is getting 14/15" with the depth difference. What about a DF or the ATX. That would mean the DF is even shallower than that? I know the TDI is deeper, but according to your statements that would not be so... I have more hours with a pulse on a beach this year than you have in your whole life and never posted a number publicly on a forum... I hardly ever see a pulse at a beach, now everyone is an expert... Had someone email me you claimed 20" in chest deep water on a nickle. Seriously??? So testing known conditions, clean sand get one number then in chest deep water, maybe a current, mineralized or bumpy bottom the machine got deeper... This is in chest deep water you got that figure. Interesting...

As for Whites they are still honoring their warranty as far as I know... But I saw this coming since the beginning of the year.

Interesting how someone uses your video to show depth, but does not bring up how it misses the target on the first pass... Talk about ignoring the obvious... So you are now the go to pulse guy, good to know.

https://www.detectorprospector.com/...er-impulse-aq-calibration-procedure/#comments

Looks like pulse detecting 101 on one board. Wonder why someone would be posting all that info about a pulse machine. That is all old news. Was all over the old pulse/TDI forum, but is all posted now...

Wonder what that enclosure in the Fisher will do with the heat cycles over and over, something I was curious about for a long time. Not a clear housing so cant see anything at all. If thinking about expansion/contraction of materials, what could be going on in there... Smaller enclosure as well. Did not see you bring up that little question either? You bring up how a cell phone can interfere with the machine... As could houses, businesses, power lines, a pier or anything else for that matter. Old news.

Since I don't have the time at the moment to look back at past pages to see what the replies were before will leave it there...

Doing an all on nothing procedure today, either going to fix it, or by next week will lose it. Instead am bickering about a machine used for a hobby which I have not changed my opinion for months about.

 

[OBN]

Dam son you really have issue's don't you......Chill out..

 

[KOB]

My goodness , it's getting hot in here !
Rick - I was talking about a couple nails and ring BOTH buried about 18" together.
Sandcrab - when I was in Newport recently, I saw a SUV with a plate "SANCRAB". I thought that was cool.
OBN - keep up the testing , no one else is apparently.
ME - I'm not a pro like you guys. But my main machine has been a pulse for over 30+ years. My DF for a fact has pulled gold rings at 24" in wet sand. But again , I'm not a pro.

 

[Cfmct]

"Its hilarious that it was billed that it only finds gold... its a PI it finds everything... I get it.. it was a selling point.. and the guy who said all these wonderful things has been MIA here... "

If you are referring to me - I never said that the AQ finds only gold - that would be false and stupid as well. I probably did say that it has been specifically and carefully engineered to excel at finding gold jewelry at the beach.

If you were referring to someone else - then sorry to interrupt your fun.

Rick... your words were it was for finding gold... well most detectors in the right hands do the same thing without all the trash... digging trash is a waste of time especially when one has a time limit because of tidal considerations ... Rick these words below are what you posted...

The AQ possibly has more depth other than that its a pulse detector.

1. The novelty is a pulse device, but with discrimination of ferrous metal and gold. Designed specifically to find gold jewelry and small gold chains and earrings. Since this is a pulse device, it will work without problems on any beaches.

How is the it will work on any beach coming along? A problem to a beach hunter is trash...

 

[lytle78]

You been in the sun too long??? You said I posted this......


1. The novelty is a pulse device, but with discrimination of ferrous metal and gold. Designed specifically to find gold jewelry and small gold chains and earrings. Since this is a pulse device, it will work without problems on any beaches.


Actually, those words appear here - a website from someplace in East Europe - I didn’t write them


http://hobby-detecting.com/fisher-i...tal-discrimination-2019-novelty-first-photos/

 

[The Lama]

So am i being stupid ,the way i would hunt with it would be all metal hear a target click to disc if it is shallow iron move on i really would not care if it loses depth in disc i just would be very happy about not have to dig hairpins and tiny iron bits ,if it can hear gold under a nail all the better

 

[beachrumbum]

Yes curious what hairpins sound like. I’m betting on non ferrous, possible double beep but not always.

 

[OBN]

Yes curious what hairpins sound like. I’m betting on non ferrous, possible double beep but not always.

 

[Cfmct]

You been in the sun too long??? You said I posted this......


1. The novelty is a pulse device, but with discrimination of ferrous metal and gold. Designed specifically to find gold jewelry and small gold chains and earrings. Since this is a pulse device, it will work without problems on any beaches.


Actually, those words appear here - a website from someplace in East Europe - I didn’t write them


http://hobby-detecting.com/fisher-i...tal-discrimination-2019-novelty-first-photos/

tsk, tsk shame on you for not originally posting the link from the words you swiped

 

[Cfmct]

Yes curious what hairpins sound like. I’m betting on non ferrous, possible double beep but not always.

Read on Steves forum they double beep on a shallow targets but sound good on a deeper ones... poster said around 8 inches...

It would be smart to dig double beeps... I had a double beep where I was pulling multiple old gold rings and one double beeped and it was a big signet ring broken at the back...

Lets face it a pulse machine is dig it all.... if you want to disc out a target get a VLF...

Here is the post: After recovering a couple of bobby pins, I could test them on top of the ground and get that double hit I've seen posted, but, when that same bobby pin is 8 inches down, it doesn't do that . It sounds steady and solid. Same with bottle caps, it LOVES those things!

https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/topic/12996-first-impressions-of-the-aq/

 

[lytle78]

Cfmct, as you do so often, you misfired. You tsk,tsk me for not originally posting the link from the forum which had the language which you accused me of writing. Well, here’s what I wrote on this forum on 3-13-19 - the post which had the long quote from the Russian site. You see that I cited the source for the quote. If you were too lame to Google it, don’t blame me for not posting a link

Here is exactly what I posted.


Everybody get over the ****hurt over it being showed in Germany. The equivalent show in the US is SHOT in Las Vegas. It wasn’t ready for that show. The show in Germany is the biggest outdoor equipment show in Europe and pretty much the whole world outside North America.

Here’s the text from the Russian site and one of the pics. Note that in his point 3, the control which adjusts the effect of the conductivity separation - and therefore the iron ID/silence is the “Iron Mask” knob.

Fisher Impulse AQ - a new pulse metal detector with metal discrimination! (New 2019, first photos!) BY DETECTORIST · 03/12/2019

 

[Cfmct]

Cfmct, as you do so often, you misfired. You tsk,tsk me for not originally posting the link from the forum which had the language which you accused me of writing. Well, here’s what I wrote on this forum on 3-13-19 - the post which had the long quote from the Russian site. You see that I cited the source for the quote. If you were too lame to Google it, don’t blame me for not posting a link

Here is exactly what I posted.


Everybody get over the ****hurt over it being showed in Germany. The equivalent show in the US is SHOT in Las Vegas. It wasn’t ready for that show. The show in Germany is the biggest outdoor equipment show in Europe and pretty much the whole world outside North America.

Here’s the text from the Russian site and one of the pics. Note that in his point 3, the control which adjusts the effect of the conductivity separation - and therefore the iron ID/silence is the “Iron Mask” knob.

Fisher Impulse AQ - a new pulse metal detector with metal discrimination! (New 2019, first photos!) BY DETECTORIST · 03/12/2019

Ok Rick... but you posted all this stuff and a lot of its not true... a Dual Field can be adjusted to eliminate some metal targets by playing with the pulse delay unfortunately those who turn it up too far will lose small thin gold rings... me.. I would hunt straight all metal... I was good with my pulse machines knowing how to size a target by sound...

 

[OBN]

Ok Rick... but you posted all this stuff and a lot of its not true... a Dual Field can be adjusted to eliminate some metal targets by playing with the pulse delay unfortunately those who turn it up too far will lose small thin gold rings... me.. I would hunt straight all metal... I was good with my pulse machines knowing how to size a target by sound...

I remember Gary Storm had his Delay knob extended on his DF so he could adjust it by feel....as needed.

 

[Cfmct]

I remember Gary Storm had his Delay knob extended on his DF so he could adjust it by feel....as needed.

I never touched the pulse delay I just clicked it out of factory setting..

 

[KOB]

I never touched the pulse delay I just clicked it out of factory setting..

I click mine just on too. If it's extreme black sand maybe up to the 9 o'clock position max. Even then , my coil is 6" off the sand. And very slow. These are areas where everyone's detectors just won't work.

 

[Surf Master]

wow

i haven't checked in , in a while, hows the testing going OBN , not much of a difference from the DF in all metal, or what , version 2 out yet ? Or is it going to take another 2 years' ?

 

[OBN]

i haven't checked in , in a while, hows the testing going OBN , not much of a difference from the DF in all metal, or what , version 2 out yet ? Or is it going to take another 2 years' ?

Thanks for asking...... All is good, I'm back to hunting (with both the "AQ" n Excal)... and doing a few mods on the "AQ" ..Done with the testing.....And Earl "my" Excalibur's are deeper then the DF on the beach's there.......Not sure on the other questions, with the virus thing I would imagine things are going to get worse unfortunately.

Your Russian Girl friend needs to let you out more buddy...

Battery I'm building for the "AQ" should get about 10 hours..