MikeTexas
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Im in denton and off that friday and saturday 15th and 16th and get off work 4:30 during the week for anyone that wants to get together.
Dallas to Sherman Texas Feb 13
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Roy,
Your email to the City Manager was forwarded to me.
The City of Sherman has an ordinance that prohibits the use of metal detectors in “Baker Park”. Our policy for our other parks, is to caution patrons with metal detectors to not dig with shovels or other instruments that would cause damage to the turf. Our policy does not allow the use of detectors on any playing surface of any athletic field, practice field or manicured areas such as flower beds or areas with ornamental shrubbery.
With caution and common sense they may be used in the areas not listed above. If you have further questions please respond at your leisure.
Thanks.
Kevin Winkler City of Sherman Parks and Community Services Director (903)-892-7313 [email protected]
Your email to the City Manager was forwarded to me.
The City of Sherman has an ordinance that prohibits the use of metal detectors in “Baker Park”. Our policy for our other parks, is to caution patrons with metal detectors to not dig with shovels or other instruments that would cause damage to the turf. Our policy does not allow the use of detectors on any playing surface of any athletic field, practice field or manicured areas such as flower beds or areas with ornamental shrubbery.
With caution and common sense they may be used in the areas not listed above. If you have further questions please respond at your leisure.
Thanks.
Kevin Winkler City of Sherman Parks and Community Services Director (903)-892-7313 [email protected]
Buried
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They need to add that to the list then, because according to http://z2codes.franklinlegal.net/franklin/Z2Browser2.html?showset=shermanset
Sherman has nothing about metal detecting in any of their ordinances. I had never asked because there aren't any signs, nor anything listed prohibiting them on their list.
Sherman has nothing about metal detecting in any of their ordinances. I had never asked because there aren't any signs, nor anything listed prohibiting them on their list.
Buried
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Denison, Tx has this --
Sec. 18-113. - Damaging, removing, etc., park property.permanent link to this piece of content
It shall be unlawful for any person to cut, pull, break, bruise, remove or in any manner injure any tree, shrub or vegetation of any kind growing in any city park or to injure, deface or in any way interfere with any chair, bench, seat or hydrant, frame, fence, gate or structure of any kind therein or thereon or connected therewith. This section shall not apply to anything done by the lawful employees of the city in the lawful performance of their duties, or under their authority or direction.
But really? Are we going out there with a huge shovel and digging big holes?
"I'm just picking up trash, last week my daughter got cut by a can that was sticking out of the ground, and I'm here to make sure that doesn't even happen again. Look at all this sharp stuff I already picked up." Then chuckle a bit and say "If I find any gold, (chuckle some more) I'll let you know (chuckle again)"
Sec. 18-113. - Damaging, removing, etc., park property.permanent link to this piece of content
It shall be unlawful for any person to cut, pull, break, bruise, remove or in any manner injure any tree, shrub or vegetation of any kind growing in any city park or to injure, deface or in any way interfere with any chair, bench, seat or hydrant, frame, fence, gate or structure of any kind therein or thereon or connected therewith. This section shall not apply to anything done by the lawful employees of the city in the lawful performance of their duties, or under their authority or direction.
But really? Are we going out there with a huge shovel and digging big holes?
"I'm just picking up trash, last week my daughter got cut by a can that was sticking out of the ground, and I'm here to make sure that doesn't even happen again. Look at all this sharp stuff I already picked up." Then chuckle a bit and say "If I find any gold, (chuckle some more) I'll let you know (chuckle again)"
Cladiator
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Buried I guess it boils down to whether the risk is worth it to you. Just because there are no signs saying you can't do it, does not mean that there are not laws against it. Its your call.
jeremyelkins
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I wonder if they prosecute squirrels. Those guys are heavy offenders. Heck, just walking on the grass bruises it. Those kids going down the slides are leaving marks, maybe they should be locked up. I think most cities have this same rule but I wouldn't think it would hold up unless you really were hurting something like a ball field, flower bed etc. We pay for those city parks so I don't want anything damanged either because it will cost me to have it repaired. Digging in worn out heavily trafficked grass helps aerate it and removes the foreign object so it only helps. I have found needles, razor blades and all kinds of nasty stuff in parks. I think we are doing a real service to the city assuming we follow our code of ethics.
Buried
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Even with no signs, I always check parks and recreations ordinances via their website. Which in the case of Sherman, it doesn't have anything listed there at all. *IF* indeed I ever got in trouble for doing it, that would be my valid argument that no such written law is published for the public to read.
I can understand people's point of view as to ask first. But the way I personally do it, is "no signs, no written law listed for the public to read" then I go for it. Anytime I have ever asked any official if I could, I get told "no". So now I just look for signs and read the laws posted by each city/state.
My attorney told me "its easier to ask for forgiveness than it is for permission"
That's just me though. Now when it comes to privately owned property, I don't get on it unless I do have the owners permission. But as for city/state owned stuff, hey, no signs/no written ordinances, I'm all over it.
In all reality, for what I find, I'm cheap labor for cleaning up the places.
Martin_V3i
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As many of my hunting buddies know, I didn't get out of my home yard for a year because of clauses found on the city websites stating just this very thing. Once I did get out, I discovered I'd missed tons of fun in the worry because many, many hunters had used the local parks freely all that time. I still never totaly relax when piling dirt around a hole when traffic picks up and the official park trucks and the PD cruise around. Logic says that something will be made of the issue in time by a busy body. It is very easy for a trained detectorist visiting a park to see it's being hunted, and hunted with some aggressive shovels. My Lesche does a crummier job in holes than my Sampson, but the Sampson is far from perfect in this crumbling crud we call soil, especially when it's dry. It is a tricky situation. martin
wolf-n-wa
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Its all very common sensical (my own word) to me. If it is not posted then I hunt. Until I am asked not to at which point I cease and appologize. The laws that are written are mostly intended for distructive type occurances and not necessarily written with the detectorist in mind. So, simply put I will hunt it. You can read a sentance many ways and interpret the meaning in many ways. I interpret them my way. WOLF
wolf-n-wa
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Be there in 5 more days. :-) WOLF
wolf-n-wa
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2 days :-) :-)
Buried
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Its suppose to start raining
MikeTX
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Martin_V3i
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Wednesday is supposed to be sunny but who knows
The weather will be like that. They are good at getting weather figured out 2 days out. martin
Buried
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My bday is thursday, so it better be nice!!
wolf-n-wa
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Ha! I'm from wa state. Rain ain't gonna stop me. WOLF
Buried
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Yeah, but the difference between your rain and our rain, is our rain brings sudden tornadoes 
Buried
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Herman Baker Park - Sherman, Tx.
Sec. 1.11.200 Metal detectors
The use of metal detectors in the park is prohibited. (1991 Code, sec. 23-150)
That was NOT there before
Sec. 1.11.200 Metal detectors
The use of metal detectors in the park is prohibited. (1991 Code, sec. 23-150)
That was NOT there before
Buried
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I did write an extensive e-mail to that guy, with a complete list of parks in sherman.. When he responds, you guys try not to act like "diggers" out there
I ended the e-mail with this line...
Metal Detecting - Cleaning Up The World, One Sharp Piece of Dangerous Metal at a Time.
I ended the e-mail with this line...
Metal Detecting - Cleaning Up The World, One Sharp Piece of Dangerous Metal at a Time.
